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Post by carlton43 on Jun 16, 2018 10:11:05 GMT
You can't do it yourself - you have to ask AdminSTB to do it for you. You actually can do this yourself, but I don't advice it, the software doesn't always get it right, especially for people who have 'alternative' tags and want party room access. I normally process such requests within a few hours. The default btw is Non-Aligned but only after you've made a certain number of posts. Also, it can get funny when "Top Poster" is involved as well. What is a 'Top poster', why are there so few and what does it confer? |
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Post by timmullen1 on Jun 16, 2018 10:15:32 GMT
Not being very bright when it comes to most things computery it took me six months and an offer from Admin to reset mine from non-affiliated to Labour, and I wouldn’t have the first clue on how to change it back as I am so often tempted to do. are you not labour now? Still clinging on, but tenuously. |
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Post by Pete Whitehead on Jun 16, 2018 10:15:50 GMT
I used to be a 'Top Poster' but I no longer have that as an option so presumably it is the five people with the largest number of posts (as I have the sixth largest number of posts)
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Post by AdminSTB on Jun 16, 2018 11:34:46 GMT
You actually can do this yourself, but I don't advice it, the software doesn't always get it right, especially for people who have 'alternative' tags and want party room access. I normally process such requests within a few hours. The default btw is Non-Aligned but only after you've made a certain number of posts. Also, it can get funny when "Top Poster" is involved as well. What is a 'Top poster', why are there so few and what does it confer? I honestly have never looked behind the hood to see what the setting is, it's exactly as swanarcadian or even Kristofer Keane set it up. What I do know is that it can interfere with which group is displayed (not which groups you are in). It confers nothing except a user title. |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 16, 2018 11:41:51 GMT
Still clinging on, but tenuously. stick with us  |
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Post by timmullen1 on Jun 16, 2018 11:55:55 GMT
Still clinging on, but tenuously. stick with us Actually the chances have increased considerably since our CLP AGM last week. 😊 |
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Post by mattb on Jun 16, 2018 12:14:58 GMT
Therefore the net increase in Lib Dem seats is entirely attributable to ward boundary changes Though to be fair the changes are based on population growth; so arguably the previous boundaries artificially boosted Labour’s numbers. |
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Post by swanarcadian on Jun 16, 2018 13:30:46 GMT
You actually can do this yourself, but I don't advice it, the software doesn't always get it right, especially for people who have 'alternative' tags and want party room access. I normally process such requests within a few hours. The default btw is Non-Aligned but only after you've made a certain number of posts. Also, it can get funny when "Top Poster" is involved as well. What is a 'Top poster', why are there so few and what does it confer? Kris seems to be less active in his post-Admin retirement than I am, so I'll do my best to answer. On ProBoards forums, the Admin can create posting ranks which are the default display group under your usernames. Kris created a Top Poster rank for those who have posted at least 5,000 times. This was because he wanted to consult with them as to the future of the forum, and he created a short-lived private sub board that only Top Posters and the Mods could access. Anyone who has posted 5,000 times could display themselves as a Top Poster if they so wish (as Joe did recently). When I took over, I decided to prevent new members from creating threads until they had posted 10 times in order to prevent spam and trolling. So far this seems to be working reasonably well. So you're a Newbie until you've reached 10 posts, then Non-Aligned until you've reached the 5,000 required to be a Top Poster. The current Admin could of course change all this at any time. |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 16, 2018 15:36:01 GMT
stick with us Actually the chances have increased considerably since our CLP AGM last week. 😊 how did it go? |
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Post by timmullen1 on Jun 16, 2018 16:18:05 GMT
Actually the chances have increased considerably since our CLP AGM last week. 😊 how did it go? Apart from the Secretary, who lost re-election but has been asked to continue, we have a completely new team who actually know what they’re doing. |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 16, 2018 17:42:23 GMT
Apart from the Secretary, who lost re-election but has been asked to continue, we have a completely new team who actually know what they’re doing. where are u cab I ask? |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 16, 2018 17:44:00 GMT
Apart from the Secretary, who lost re-election but has been asked to continue, we have a completely new team who actually know what they’re doing. where are u cab I ask? Stoke South. |
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Post by carlton43 on Jun 16, 2018 18:05:43 GMT
What is a 'Top poster', why are there so few and what does it confer? Kris seems to be less active in his post-Admin retirement than I am, so I'll do my best to answer. On ProBoards forums, the Admin can create posting ranks which are the default display group under your usernames. Kris created a Top Poster rank for those who have posted at least 5,000 times. This was because he wanted to consult with them as to the future of the forum, and he created a short-lived private sub board that only Top Posters and the Mods could access. Anyone who has posted 5,000 times could display themselves as a Top Poster if they so wish (as Joe did recently). When I took over, I decided to prevent new members from creating threads until they had posted 10 times in order to prevent spam and trolling. So far this seems to be working reasonably well. So you're a Newbie until you've reached 10 posts, then Non-Aligned until you've reached the 5,000 required to be a Top Poster. The current Admin could of course change all this at any time. Thanks for that. Yes Joe did. Where is he? And in so doing dropped his 'Conservative'. Don't see the point. Your post suggests all are Non-aligned after being a Newbie until Top Poster 'could' be claimed and that is slightly confusing as many are party committed. |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 16, 2018 18:10:59 GMT
Kris seems to be less active in his post-Admin retirement than I am, so I'll do my best to answer. On ProBoards forums, the Admin can create posting ranks which are the default display group under your usernames. Kris created a Top Poster rank for those who have posted at least 5,000 times. This was because he wanted to consult with them as to the future of the forum, and he created a short-lived private sub board that only Top Posters and the Mods could access. Anyone who has posted 5,000 times could display themselves as a Top Poster if they so wish (as Joe did recently). When I took over, I decided to prevent new members from creating threads until they had posted 10 times in order to prevent spam and trolling. So far this seems to be working reasonably well. So you're a Newbie until you've reached 10 posts, then Non-Aligned until you've reached the 5,000 required to be a Top Poster. The current Admin could of course change all this at any time. Thanks for that. Yes Joe did. Where is he? And in so doing dropped his 'Conservative'. Don't see the point. Your post suggests all are Non-aligned after being a Newbie until Top Poster 'could' be claimed and that is slightly confusing as many are party committed. Im back as Conservative now... |
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Post by andrew111 on Jun 16, 2018 18:52:36 GMT
History will just show that the Lib Dems and Labour have one more Councillor each, and the Tories 2 less! And that the Lib Dems made more gains overall than Labour or the Tories for the first time in many years! Not too bad for an irrelevant Party... but how have the lib dems gained more than labour before thursday the totals were labour 79 lib dems 75. Another 3 seats makes it 79 to 78 I think the Lib Dems have been quoting the Press Association figures which appear to be based on change since the eve of poll, not change since 2014 (or last time fought). However I have not been able to find the final Press Association figures (I think the Press Association expects people to pay for them...).
Re. "notionals": The Wikipedia figures compare the total number of councillors with a "notional" figure from 2014 taking into account subsequent boundary changes. However I don't think those are notional figures based on any detailed analysis, but simply scaling the 2014 results to new totals where the number of councillors have changed. In that case there would have been no change in the notional 2014 results in Southwark from the actual ones..
So it seems Labour did indeed make the most gains on the most widely accepted way of counting, but there are two more deferred elections next week which could in theory change things
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Post by andrew111 on Jun 16, 2018 19:14:46 GMT
Well, since I don't like being called an idiot I just went through the entire Southwark thread to check for the authoritative notionals for the new boundaries that I was sure would be available to judge the history of this election. I found only David Boothroyd's quick estimate on page 1, which was the same in total as the 2014 result. Then I found the same assertion by you about wards in Bermondsey. There were clearly major changes in boundaries in Dulwich that may have affected results there as well. I am sorry Pete, but however high your opinion may be of your influence on historical record, two posts of speculation on this site are not going to do it. The fact is that the number of councillors is the same as before, there have not been any notionals by Rallings and Thrasher or any authoritative body, and so history will record exactly what I said. Random speculation by individuals does not make history. My initial intervention on this subject was in response to one of your fellow Lib Dem cheerleaders suggesting that the increase in the number of Lib Dem seats in Southwark was at the expense of the Conservatives and that this, other than in the loosest possible sense was a nonsense. As far as notionals go, it is very difficult to do these before the changes have taken effect because of an absence of data lower than at ward level but it becomes easier after there is electoral data on the new ward boundaries to work with. David's suggestions were based on an assumption that St George's ward would take the better Labour areas of Cathedrals ward with the better Lib Dem areas going into Borough & Bankside. This was a correct assumption but it may not have been to the extent that Labour would have won that ward in 2014. We obviously can't know how votes would have been cast within the area of that ward in 2014 (though those at the count then may have a pretty good idea as the ward fairly closely corresponds to two polling districts from then). What we do know is that the Lib Dems on average vote were about 11% ahead of Labour in 2014 in Cathedrals and on the aggregate vote of the two wards entirely carved out of that ward they were 14% ahead this May. Which equates to a swing of 1.5% while in St George's the Lib Dem (average vote) lead was 5% this May. So it seems likely based on that that the Lib Dems may in fact have carried St George's which means that all other things being equal the Lib Dems would have been down one rather than up one. Another way to look at this is to imagine if the boundary changes had not happened. Clearly the Conservatives would have lost their two seats to Labour in Dulwich Village either way. It may be that James Barber would have held on in East Dulwich where he did not in Goose Green but they would have lost their other seat in that ward. Grange ward relative to London Bridge & West Bermondsey would have been better for Labour so on the basis of the recent result Labour would have probably gained a seat there making it 2 Lab 1 LD where previously it was 2 LD 1 Lab. So what we would actually have seen is Labour gaining 4 seats - 2 each from the Conservatives and Lib Dems but that this was averted due to favourable (for the Lib Dems) boundary changes - whereas Labour won all the available seats in the Dulwich area, gaining from both other parties, this area overall lost two seats with two new seats then being created out of a safe Lib Dem ward. Therefore the net increase in Lib Dem seats is entirely attributable to ward boundary changes Well, it was actually David (not a Lib Dem cheerleader!) who suggested that notionally the Tories should have held a seat in Surrey Docks... I have no opinion at all on that, but clearly there is a discussion to be had among people who know more about Southwark politics. On that basis the Lib Dems did indeed make a gain from Con..
However my point is not actually to disagree with your analysis, even though it seems to be based on "The Lib Dems only increased their seats because a boundary change made things a bit fairer".
It was that there is only a small number of people interested in local election results full stop, and a tiny number interested in the effects of boundary changes in Southwark, so all that Wikipedia or the Southwark council website or even Rallings and Thrasher will record is Lab +1; LD +1; Con -2. People inhabiting arcane corners of psephology discussion boards may argue about why that happened, but "history" will sweep past untroubled...
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Post by carlton43 on Jun 16, 2018 19:54:00 GMT
Thanks for that. Yes Joe did. Where is he? And in so doing dropped his 'Conservative'. Don't see the point. Your post suggests all are Non-aligned after being a Newbie until Top Poster 'could' be claimed and that is slightly confusing as many are party committed. Im back as Conservative now... I missed that Joe as was now Vox. The veritable Tommy Robinson of the Blue Room. |
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Post by mboy on Jun 16, 2018 20:14:12 GMT
Im back as Conservative now... I missed that Joe as was now Vox. The veritable Tommy Robinson of the Blue Room. STOP DEAD-NAMING VOX! (PS It took me a while to work it out too...) |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 16, 2018 21:08:41 GMT
well you need to stay then until we see Labour Gain |
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