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Post by justin124 on May 11, 2018 14:45:04 GMT
I have always had the impression that the demand for All Women Shortlists was generated internally - from within the activist base. I have never had the sense - at anytime since this began to be imposed on us in the mid-1990s - that there was a great yearning from the wider electorate to have more women MPs as a matter of principle. To date , I have persuaded three other people to abstain here in Norwich North at the next election - and hope to build on that. If you really think that this issue takes precedence over who runs the country's foreign affairs, exchequer, defence, health service and public services, that's your right, but it sounds pretty obsessive & a muddling of priorities to me. Read more: vote-2012.proboards.com/thread/11222/lewisham-east?page=10#ixzz5FCggjMayThat has been suggested to me many times - but it really amounts to emotional blackmail. I will not surrender to that , and to the extent that abstentions by voters such as myself costs Labour seats next time I will blame on those who imposed the selection system. |
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Post by carlton43 on May 11, 2018 15:01:31 GMT
Sounds like it will be an all-woman shortlist, then an all-woman all-BAMEshortlist, then an all woman allBAME, all lesbian shortlist? When they have achieved the ultimate candidate of their desires Crippled black lesbian blind, deaf and unable to understand the English language... I wonder where they will cast their baleful gaze next? |
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Post by Deleted on May 11, 2018 15:04:28 GMT
That has been suggested to me many times - but it really amounts to emotional blackmail. I will not surrender to that , and to the extent that abstentions by voters such as myself costs Labour seats next time I will blame on those who imposed the selection system. A handful of blinkered gammon faced grumpy old fellas huffing about women MPs into their London Pride won't deny Labour jack shit. |
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Post by k9 on May 11, 2018 15:09:47 GMT
Sounds like it will be an all-woman shortlist, then an all-woman all-BAMEshortlist, then an all woman allBAME, all lesbian shortlist? When they have achieved the ultimate candidate of their desires Crippled black lesbian blind, deaf and unable to understand the English language... I wonder where they will cast their baleful gaze next? The Liberal Democrat candidate in 1997 and 2001 is deaf. |
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Post by carlton43 on May 11, 2018 15:11:42 GMT
When they have achieved the ultimate candidate of their desires Crippled black lesbian blind, deaf and unable to understand the English language... I wonder where they will cast their baleful gaze next? The Liberal Democrat candidate in 1997 and 2001 is deaf. Wot did he say? |
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Post by Davıd Boothroyd on May 11, 2018 15:35:41 GMT
Watch it all the way through.
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Post by yellowperil on May 11, 2018 15:42:13 GMT
Sounds like it will be an all-woman shortlist, then an all-woman all-BAMEshortlist, then an all woman allBAME, all lesbian shortlist? When they have achieved the ultimate candidate of their desires Crippled black lesbian blind, deaf and unable to understand the English language... I wonder where they will cast their baleful gaze next? We may find out soon as looking at some of the potential candidates they might have achieved their goal already. |
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Post by Deleted on May 11, 2018 16:03:19 GMT
The Liberal Democrat candidate in 1997 and 2001 is deaf. Wot did he say? He's also a former councillor in both Southwark and Epsom & Ewell, and tried to get selected as for Hampstead & Kilburn in 2015: davidbuxton.org.uk/en/ |
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Post by timmullen1 on May 11, 2018 16:35:41 GMT
Sounds like it will be an all-woman shortlist, then an all-woman all-BAMEshortlist, then an all woman allBAME, all lesbian shortlist? When they have achieved the ultimate candidate of their desires Crippled black lesbian blind, deaf and unable to understand the English language... I wonder where they will cast their baleful gaze next? Without wishing to start another war can I just say that the use of the word crippled is grossly offensive, although that was probably your intention, and if you’re going to use language that went out of use decades ago then why not substitute black for the n-word, and lesbian for dyke? Don’t bother replying; in order to avoid another outpouring of sympathy for you I’m unsubscribing from this thread as clearly you are on a mission to take it into the gutter. |
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Post by maxque on May 11, 2018 17:31:26 GMT
The Park isn't in Beckenham (and none of Lewisham borough is in Beckenham constituency). The west part is in Lewisham West and Penge (Bellingham ward), the east part in Lewisham East (Downham ward), the limit being Thameslink. Okay, I’m nowhere near London, but the planning application for the redevelopment is on Lewisham LBC’s planning portal inviting comments addressed to that council, and the postcode on the address on said application when typed into the “Find My MP” on the Parliament website says the MP is Bob Stewart, Beckenham. The postcode used on the planning application is an old, not used anymore postcode, which was covering the mansion and the street named Beckenham Park Place, which is in Bromley (The border of the borough follows the border of the park, but that's true only since 1995, that post code is most likely a relic of that era). It is most likely outdated because it's spanning two authorities now with the boundary change. Let's note the future applications just use BR3 as a postcode. See pages 10 and 11 and map 3 of the LGBCE about the Bromley/Lewisham boundary changes. s3-eu-west-2.amazonaws.com/lgbce/__data/assets/pdf_file/0007/11887/641.-london-borough-of-bromley-and-its-boundary-with-lewisham-lb.pdf |
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Post by Devil Wincarnate on May 11, 2018 17:45:38 GMT
As with by-elections everywhere, this one already appears to be a AGB* shortlist.
*All grabbing bastards.
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Post by carlton43 on May 11, 2018 18:19:53 GMT
When they have achieved the ultimate candidate of their desires Crippled black lesbian blind, deaf and unable to understand the English language... I wonder where they will cast their baleful gaze next? Without wishing to start another war can I just say that the use of the word crippled is grossly offensive, although that was probably your intention, and if you’re going to use language that went out of use decades ago then why not substitute black for the n-word, and lesbian for dyke? Don’t bother replying; in order to avoid another outpouring of sympathy for you I’m unsubscribing from this thread as clearly you are on a mission to take it into the gutter. What on earth is wrong with crippled/cripple/Cripplegate? Why is it inferior to the rather prissy and negative disabled? And no it was not deliberate or a wind up, just an established usage of a perfectly good word used without a second thought because I had not noticed it needed a second thought. Why are we at the state of departing in a huff because someone uses a perfectly good old word in its proper context? Was that so bad as to trump knife crime, rape, invasion and child abuse. What the Woden is wrong with some of you? |
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Post by markf on May 11, 2018 19:02:21 GMT
timmullen , don't worry Tim, Carlton43 specialises in this sort of behaviour
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Post by Deleted on May 11, 2018 19:33:02 GMT
Without wishing to start another war can I just say that the use of the word crippled is grossly offensive, although that was probably your intention, and if you’re going to use language that went out of use decades ago then why not substitute black for the n-word, and lesbian for dyke? Don’t bother replying; in order to avoid another outpouring of sympathy for you I’m unsubscribing from this thread as clearly you are on a mission to take it into the gutter. What on earth is wrong with crippled/cripple/Cripplegate? Why is it inferior to the rather prissy and negative disabled? And no it was not deliberate or a wind up, just an established usage of a perfectly good word used without a second thought because I had not noticed it needed a second thought. Why are we at the state of departing in a huff because someone uses a perfectly good old word in its proper context? Was that so bad as to trump knife crime, rape, invasion and child abuse. What the Woden is wrong with some of you? It’s just unnecessary more than anything. It’s like “coloured”, “negro” or “spastic”, a word that once ok in polite society, but not anymore. Society changes and just sometimes you have to move with it, just a bit. |
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Post by carlton43 on May 11, 2018 19:37:11 GMT
I think it is a worry that someone thinks it's OK to behave in this way. I think Carlton43's been given enough chances to be honest. What is all this about? Since when did we ban the use of the word cripple for Woden's sake? I regard these posts as personal harassment and attempts to cause mischief. |
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Post by Deleted on May 11, 2018 19:41:46 GMT
I think it is a worry that someone thinks it's OK to behave in this way. I think Carlton43's been given enough chances to be honest. What is all this about? Since when did we ban the use of the word cripple for Woden's sake? I regard these posts as personal harassment and attempts to cause mischief. According to Wikipedia it was seen as degoratory by the 1970s |
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Post by carlton43 on May 11, 2018 19:43:53 GMT
What is all this about? Since when did we ban the use of the word cripple for Woden's sake? I regard these posts as personal harassment and attempts to cause mischief. According to Wikipedia it was seen as degoratory by the 1970s Not in my real world the non-snoflake world we didn't. And I was there at the time. |
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Post by alderman on May 11, 2018 19:44:53 GMT
Presumably because of the incredible haste in which this by-election has been called, the venue for the Labour selection meeting will be in the Lewisham West and Penge constituency...
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Post by Deleted on May 11, 2018 19:48:05 GMT
According to Wikipedia it was seen as degoratory by the 1970s Not in my real world the non-snoflake world we didn't. And I was there at the time. Im not a snowflake- you can call me anything you please, but if you continue you’re just going to : a) Upset other posters; and b) End up from being banned from here Now I don’t want either of those things to happen. There’s an art of compromising with others in politics (and life), even when you are convinced you are right. Even when you are right. This is probably one of those times. That’s said with the best will. |
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Post by carlton43 on May 11, 2018 19:51:20 GMT
What on earth is wrong with crippled/cripple/Cripplegate? Why is it inferior to the rather prissy and negative disabled? And no it was not deliberate or a wind up, just an established usage of a perfectly good word used without a second thought because I had not noticed it needed a second thought. Why are we at the state of departing in a huff because someone uses a perfectly good old word in its proper context? Was that so bad as to trump knife crime, rape, invasion and child abuse. What the Woden is wrong with some of you? It’s just unnecessary more than anything. It’s like “coloured”, “negro” or “spastic”, a word that once ok in polite society, but not anymore. Society changes and just sometimes you have to move with it, just a bit. No we don't. And I choose not to. I will not be hectored by the 1984 police. Sod them. The are crippling discourse and the appropriate use of real words. |
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