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Post by Merseymike on Mar 21, 2019 21:32:18 GMT
The Arab parties. Pretty obvios that would be the outcome given I'm opposed to Zionism
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Post by thirdchill on Mar 21, 2019 21:36:54 GMT
Blue & White
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Post by Merseymike on Mar 21, 2019 21:40:21 GMT
Supporter of the Arab parties "You are highly critical of the Israeli state and its treatment of its Arab minority and the Palestinians. You are not comfortable with being called a Zionist although you are likely to be in favour of a two-state solution. You believe the state budget should be more fairly divided between the country’s different sectors. You vehemently oppose the Nation-State law, and believe it should be scrapped. You oppose Netanyahu although you remain ambivalent over whether you’d be willing to join with centre and centre-left parties to keep him out of office" Its definitely bollocks over my "Ambivalence" ain't no such thing for me, its definitely would not under any circumstances. "Not comfortable with being called a Zionist"...I am not and never have been a Zionist (Israeli nationalist) I'm also unconvinced by the two state solution as the settlement policy has made it a geographical impossibility. |
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Post by carlton43 on Mar 22, 2019 10:58:00 GMT
I have done my searches on wiki and I can't find Blue and White and confess to never having heard of them. I do the quiz as far as I can not really knowing what some questions fully mean. I select Likud over Blue and White because I have not heard of the latter. My result is ...... supporting Blue and White!? |
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Post by Forfarshire Conservative on Mar 22, 2019 11:12:09 GMT
I have done my searches on wiki and I can't find Blue and White and confess to never having heard of them. I do the quiz as far as I can not really knowing what some questions fully mean. I select Likud over Blue and White because I have not heard of the latter. My result is ...... supporting Blue and White!? Blue and White is a centrist alliance en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blue_and_White_(political_alliance) |
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Post by carlton43 on Mar 22, 2019 11:26:34 GMT
I have done my searches on wiki and I can't find Blue and White and confess to never having heard of them. I do the quiz as far as I can not really knowing what some questions fully mean. I select Likud over Blue and White because I have not heard of the latter. My result is ...... supporting Blue and White!? Blue and White is a centrist alliance en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blue_and_White_(political_alliance)Thank you. That is new. I think it would be the party I would support. |
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Post by Georg Ebner on Apr 7, 2019 15:59:35 GMT
After using the term "racist" permanently here You apparently believe, that the Jews are their own race, distinct from the Arabs? Not even the less inerudite of the Nazis thought so. |
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Post by finsobruce on Apr 7, 2019 16:22:19 GMT
After using the term "racist" permanently here You apparently believe, that the Jews are their own race, distinct from the Arabs? Not even the less inerudite of the Nazis thought so. Let's not get into that one please, Georg. |
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Post by finsobruce on Apr 7, 2019 16:25:40 GMT
Let's not get into that one please, Georg. Too late...! As Kylie is forever telling us it's never too late to fall in love (among other things). |
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Post by Georg Ebner on Apr 7, 2019 18:25:20 GMT
After using the term "racist" permanently here You apparently believe, that the Jews are their own race, distinct from the Arabs? Not even the less inerudite of the Nazis thought so. I tell you what I mean by that term. Nentanyahu has allied himself with a party that hates Arabs and Muslims because they are Arab and Muslim, that makes that party racist in my book, and anyone who makes alliances with them fellow travellers. Its a fair and accurate criticism Then call them "nationalists"! |
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Post by middyman on Apr 7, 2019 19:15:36 GMT
Then call them "nationalists"! I refuse to give such terminology to them because that would equate them with the moderate patriots such as the Basques, the SNP, Plaid Cymru, Breton and Catalan nationalists who must certainly are not basing their policies on hatred of another communities race or religion. Likud and the racists it has allied itself to are extremists indoctrinating the Israeli population into very unsavory ways of thinking. This will backfire eventually. Off topic slightly but exploring your view, how do you regard the BNP in India which marries nationalism with religion? |
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Post by middyman on Apr 7, 2019 20:37:12 GMT
Off topic slightly but exploring your view, how do you regard the BNP in India which marries nationalism with religion? Very much in the same made as Likud. The BJP case, it feeds over anti-Muslim fear and shows intolerance and regressive social attitudes in others matters. Modi's involvement or not depending on your point of view in the 2002 Gujarat riots is an additional reason not to trust the BJP I am no fan of Modi either. Israel, however, receives far more adverse comment than India. |
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Post by Adam in Stroud on Apr 7, 2019 21:26:54 GMT
I am no fan of Modi either. Israel, however, receives far more adverse comment than India. I think its a bit of a myth actually. India gets a lot of stick, quite rightly, for its treatment of Kashmir. Other countries, China, Russia, Iran, Syria, Saudi Arabia and the USA for various reasons as well. The World is not singling out Israel, but if they do stupid or outrageous things then it will be noticed and they will be held to account. Netanyahu's current cynical exploitation of the settlements issue for electoral gain is a case in point and his alliance with racists unforgiveable. If Israelis of the Jewish faith wish to associate themselves with that position by reelecting him they must accept that will have a cost. Utter crap. There is nothing like the interest in Kashmir or Saudi actions in Yemen (or UK enabling the latter) or Chinese oppression of Uighurs, that there is in Israel-Palestine. That applies on both sides of the argument - there are far more pro-Israelis in British politics than there are supporters of India. EDIT: a few facts. On this forum, working from Odo's list of General International discussion threads, we have 5 pages on Saudi Arabia, 4 pages on the whole of India, 3 on the whole of China. We have 41 on Israel. Poor old Palestine has about half of one. |
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Post by syorkssocialist on Apr 8, 2019 1:36:20 GMT
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Post by mboy on Apr 8, 2019 9:39:05 GMT
He's jumped the shark big time. We always knew he was a nasty piece of work, but yes he is literally strangling the two-state solution before our eyes. If he wins (and I suspect he will) this will be the moment Israelis look back on as the moment their nation signed away a peaceful future forever. |
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Post by Merseymike on Apr 8, 2019 10:10:05 GMT
He's jumped the shark big time. We always knew he was a nasty piece of work, but yes he is literally strangling the two-state solution before our eyes. If he wins (and I suspect he will) this will be the moment Israelis look back on as the moment their nation signed away a peaceful future forever. He has been opposed to a two state solution for years. Its not a geographical possibility anyway, because of the relentless expansion of settlements |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 8, 2019 10:14:04 GMT
He's jumped the shark big time. We always knew he was a nasty piece of work, but yes he is literally strangling the two-state solution before our eyes. If he wins (and I suspect he will) this will be the moment Israelis look back on as the moment their nation signed away a peaceful future forever. He has been opposed to a two state solution for years. Its not a geographical possibility anyway, because of the relentless expansion of settlements The one positive aspect of this is that it puts an end to the decades of hypocrisy and double-talk - by Israelis and non-Israelis alike - about a "peace process" which is going nowhere and was never intended to. Now at least we will have clarity. |
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Post by Forfarshire Conservative on Apr 8, 2019 13:39:52 GMT
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Post by clyde1998 on Apr 8, 2019 14:57:13 GMT
I can imagine the doorstep conversations. "What are you going to do if we vote for you?" -- "Fuck knows." |
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Post by Merseymike on Apr 8, 2019 15:33:34 GMT
I can imagine the doorstep conversations. "What are you going to do if we vote for you?" -- "Fuck knows." Isn't their record evidence of that? Kill lots of Palestinians and establish lots more settlements on Palestinian land. |
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