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Post by greatkingrat on Jun 16, 2018 20:31:53 GMT
There is a Waitrose in Westfield Stratford (West Ham constituency). Jeremy Corbyn has two Waitroses, as does Emily Thornberry.
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Post by AdminSTB on Jun 16, 2018 20:40:26 GMT
I visited Hall Green in Birmingham for the first time today - which made me wonder if a case could be made for Hall Green South ward (a creation of the new Birmingham local boundaries) - it seemed a very wealthy residential area, poles apart demographically from the rest of the seat and voted 60% Conservative in last month's local elections. It was also somewhat surprising to see a Waitrose in the ward (or just over the border into Hall Green North ward) - could this be the seat with the largest Labour majority to contain a Waitrose (unless there's one in one of the Hackney or Islington seats?) It's in Hall Green North. I use it about once a month. Moseley is another well-off area within the Hall Green constituency and I suspect that "core Moseley" is actually better off than Hall Green south. There is a Waitrose in Islington on Liverpool Road but I think that is in Islington South and Finsbury.
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Post by andrewteale on Jun 17, 2018 1:05:59 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Jun 17, 2018 9:59:24 GMT
Which raises the question - which constituency has the most Waitrose stores? West Dorset has 3 (and there's another just over the border in Crewkerne), and a quick look around at that map suggests that none outside London match or beat that - but some within London might.
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Post by jacoblamsden on Jun 17, 2018 10:16:54 GMT
Which raises the question - which constituency has the most Waitrose stores? West Dorset has 3 (and there's another just over the border in Crewkerne), and a quick look around at that map suggests that none outside London match or beat that - but some within London might. I don't think the Kevin Laurence map is fully up to date. I know that Tunbridge Wells also has 3 Waitroses - but to the disgust of those living there (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3059263/Tunbridge-Wells-shoppers-disgusted-exciting-new-store-hoped-Waitrose-revealed-branch-POUNDLAND.html) none are in the town itself - they are found instead in Paddock Wood, Edenbridge and Hawkhurst. I think Wealden also has three (Crowborough, Heathfield, Uckfield).
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Post by timrollpickering on Jun 17, 2018 10:44:49 GMT
There is a Waitrose in Islington on Liverpool Road but I think that is in Islington South and Finsbury. There's another on Holloway Road in Islington North.
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Post by greenhert on Jun 21, 2018 21:39:47 GMT
Bishopsworth ward in Bristol South, the safest Labour constituency south of a line from The Wash to the Bristol Channel-it is stubbornly Conservative whereas the majority of wards in Bristol South are safely Labour and have been for decades. Bristol South as a whole has been continuously Labour-held since 1935 (even accounting for boundary changes).
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Post by Deleted on Jun 21, 2018 22:14:04 GMT
Up here the question is, how many Booths does a constituency have?
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Post by jamie on Jun 21, 2018 22:29:47 GMT
Weardale is a contender, at least in the a North East. The ward is your standard middle of the road rural area. It is held locally by independents but will have voted Conservative nationally, probably very comfortably. The constituency of North West Durham as a whole is and has been very safe for Labour. In is essentially a post-industrial wasteland to put it bluntly, which is rather a contrast with Weardale.
Another one is Low Fell. It is an ultra well off suburb in Gateshead which has been comfortably held by the Lib Dems for years and produces most of the Conservative council candidates for the borough. The constituency of Gateshead has no other Lib Dem strength, in contrast to neighbouring Blaydon.
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Post by Andrew_S on Jun 21, 2018 22:33:41 GMT
Little Aston is the most atypical in Tamworth but then it would be in most constituencies apart from somewhere like Sutton Coldfield which is next door to it. In Lichfield it would be Chasetown.
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Post by sirbenjamin on Jun 29, 2018 15:47:39 GMT
Hove Park in Hove-a remnant of old money Conservative support that once existed across the majority of Hove (except Portslade). Hove is now a far, far safer Lab seat than it was when they gained it in 97 and the shock/faux-shock that ensued in the aftermath. Our gaining it back in 2010 now appears to be an aberration. The seat is now therefore an abomination. Entirely unfit for habitation or representation. Those who choose to live there deserve everything they get. Disgraceful. Entirely disgraceful. For shame.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 29, 2018 17:42:52 GMT
Hove Park in Hove-a remnant of old money Conservative support that once existed across the majority of Hove (except Portslade). Hove is now a far, far safer Lab seat than it was when they gained it in 97 and the shock/faux-shock that ensued in the aftermath. Our gaining it back in 2010 now appears to be an aberration. The seat is now therefore an abomination. Entirely unfit for habitation or representation. Those who choose to live there deserve everything they get. Disgraceful. Entirely disgraceful. For shame. Hove is now a safer seat than Leigh! I would certainly argue there's a Brighton effect which is also affecting East Worthing & Shoreham (now a viable Labour target for the first time).
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Post by sirbenjamin on Jun 29, 2018 19:59:32 GMT
Hove today, Worthing East tomorrow.
This is the sort of thing that keeps me awake at night.
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Post by No Offence Alan on Jun 29, 2018 20:21:11 GMT
When I stood for Paisley North in 1997 I got 6.8%. At the previous locals in 1995, of the 15 wards which, more or less, made up the seat, we only contested a handful. Of the ones we did fight, we got 65% in one ward (Ralston) and no more than 6% in any other.
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Post by Andrew_S on Jun 29, 2018 22:29:59 GMT
When I stood for Paisley North in 1997 I got 6.8%. At the previous locals in 1995, of the 15 wards which, more or less, made up the seat, we only contested a handful. Of the ones we did fight, we got 65% in one ward (Ralston) and no more than 6% in any other. I've often thought that in places like Paisley North the LD vote was at least slightly depressed by the SNP, so that if the SNP hadn't been standing the LDs would have got at least 10% in 1997 instead of 6.8%.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 29, 2018 22:35:52 GMT
Hove today, Worthing East tomorrow. Certainly Worth targetting
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Post by jamie on Jun 29, 2018 22:40:15 GMT
Hove today, Worthing East tomorrow. Certainly Worth targetting Just one last Hove and Labour will win it
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Post by Deleted on Jun 29, 2018 22:56:13 GMT
The thing with Hove though is that it's notable that the Conservative vote hasn't actually changed all that dramatically since 1997, either in terms of vote-share or in terms of raw numbers; it's ranged from 38.3% in 2001 to 31.6% in 2017, and was won with 36.7% in 2010. Obviously an oversimplification, and there was almost certainly some movement from Conservative to Labour last year there, but I wonder if it's not more the kind of place where the size of the current Labour majority has more to do with people who previously voted Liberal Democrat or Green largely rallying behind Labour.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 30, 2018 7:51:55 GMT
The thing with Hove though is that it's notable that the Conservative vote hasn't actually changed all that dramatically since 1997, either in terms of vote-share or in terms of raw numbers; it's ranged from 38.3% in 2001 to 31.6% in 2017, and was won with 36.7% in 2010. Obviously an oversimplification, and there was almost certainly some movement from Conservative to Labour last year there, but I wonder if it's not more the kind of place where the size of the current Labour majority has more to do with people who previously voted Liberal Democrat or Green largely rallying behind Labour. Yes. It’s no accident that when the Conservatives won Hove and Kemptown with less than 40% of the vote in 2010, the LDs got over 20% in both seats.
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Post by The Bishop on Jun 30, 2018 9:04:00 GMT
Though the best Tory score in Hove since Labour first won it is actually nearly 40% in 2015 - even though they lost. Quite a big drop from then to last year.
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