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Post by liverpoolliberal on Feb 16, 2018 0:02:15 GMT
York, Holgate:
Lab 1521
LD 982
Con 334
Grn 203
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Post by Andrew_S on Feb 16, 2018 0:02:38 GMT
Dawlish, Teignbridge LD 1287 Con 535 LD 70.6% Con 29.4% |
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Post by Andrew_S on Feb 16, 2018 0:04:25 GMT
York, Holgate: Lab 1521 LD 982 Con 334 Grn 203 Lab 50.0% LD 32.3% Con 11.0% Grn 6.7% |
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Post by Terry Weldon on Feb 16, 2018 0:07:05 GMT
A good night for LD: 3 gains, and several strong second places.
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Post by Andrew_S on Feb 16, 2018 0:07:38 GMT
Halton Lab 522 Ind 133 Con 88 Turnout 16% Lab 70.3% Ind 17.9% Con 11.8% |
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Post by Andrew_S on Feb 16, 2018 0:09:07 GMT
West Oxfordshire, Carterton South Conservative 388 Lib Dems 146 Labour 83 via @aldc Con 62.9% LD 23.7% Lab 13.5% |
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Post by robbienicoll on Feb 16, 2018 0:16:15 GMT
FALKIRK Bonnybridge and Larbert Niall Coleman (SNP) 1,295 George Stevenson (C) 1,088 Linda Gow (Lab) 813 David Robertson (SGP) 124 Martin Stuart (UKIP) 35 Appears to be first prefs only SNP confirmed elected at stage 5 - www.falkirk.gov.uk/news/article.aspx?aid=4409 |
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Post by Andrew_S on Feb 16, 2018 0:16:37 GMT
FALKIRK Bonnybridge and Larbert Niall Coleman (SNP) 1,295 George Stevenson (C) 1,088 Linda Gow (Lab) 813 David Robertson (SGP) 124 Martin Stuart (UKIP) 35 Appears to be first prefs only SNP 38.6% Con 32.4% Lab 24.2% Green 3.7% UKIP 1.0% |
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Post by robbienicoll on Feb 16, 2018 0:20:38 GMT
Can only imagine the reaction to the (hypothetical) scenario of the Conservatives winning in Falkirk from the Twitter moonhowlers who think you can win an AV election with 38.6%...
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Post by Andrew_S on Feb 16, 2018 0:24:02 GMT
Falkirk is surprising because there was a unionist majority but Labour voters probably didn't want a Tory elected.
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Post by Davıd Boothroyd on Feb 16, 2018 0:26:05 GMT
EAST NORTHAMPTONSHIRE Higham Ferrers Lancaster
Harriet Jane Frances Pentland (C) 611
Suzanna Marie Austin (L Dem) 244
Mark Smith (Lab) 189
Simon Andrew Turner (GP) 33
Bill Cross (UKIP) 22
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Post by thetop on Feb 16, 2018 0:27:15 GMT
Falkirk is surprising because there was a unionist majority but Labour voters probably didn't want a Tory elected. Not in the least surprising. What real difference would there be having a unionist councillor? Especially if in achieving that they are then lumbered with a Tory councillor. |
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Post by finsobruce on Feb 16, 2018 0:27:49 GMT
Falkirk is surprising because there was a unionist majority but Labour voters probably didn't want a Tory elected. To see the transfers interesting it will be. |
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Post by robbienicoll on Feb 16, 2018 0:29:54 GMT
Falkirk is surprising because there was a unionist majority but Labour voters probably didn't want a Tory elected. Only in places where Labour had majorities based off of squeezed Conservatives (East Renfrewshire, South Perthshire, Aberdeen South) does the Labour vote tactically vote Conservative over SNP, it mostly divides itself quite equally which I'm assuming is the case here as well. |
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Post by lancastrian on Feb 16, 2018 0:32:14 GMT
Falkirk is surprising because there was a unionist majority but Labour voters probably didn't want a Tory elected. Whilst there were some anti-SNP votes in previous elections, it unsurprisingly worked much better the other way round - Tory to Labour. Most of the Labour votes will probably have been untransferable. Though it might be interesting to see if May's government has persuaded them to back the SNP now. |
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Post by finsobruce on Feb 16, 2018 0:32:32 GMT
Falkirk is surprising because there was a unionist majority but Labour voters probably didn't want a Tory elected. Not in the least surprising. What real difference would there be having a unionist councillor? Especially if in achieving that they are then lumbered with a Tory councillor. i'm pretty certain that we've seen results like this go the other way. Well, the union is important to people and the nationalist/unionist dichotomy has been set up as the big thing. Maybe this will recede now it looks less likely that there will be a second referendum and that it would be won even if it was. |
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Post by Andrew_S on Feb 16, 2018 0:34:09 GMT
EAST NORTHAMPTONSHIRE Higham Ferrers Lancaster Harriet Jane Frances Pentland (C) 611 Suzanna Marie Austin (L Dem) 244 Mark Smith (Lab) 189 Simon Andrew Turner (GP) 33 Bill Cross (UKIP) 22 Con 55.6% LD 22.2% Lab 17.2% Green 3.0% UKIP 2.0% |
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Post by Andrew_S on Feb 16, 2018 0:34:57 GMT
Falkirk is surprising because there was a unionist majority but Labour voters probably didn't want a Tory elected. Not in the least surprising. What real difference would there be having a unionist councillor? Especially if in achieving that they are then lumbered with a Tory councillor. I wonder whether Labour would have been elected if the Tories had been in third place. |
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Post by Andrew_S on Feb 16, 2018 0:39:15 GMT
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Post by thetop on Feb 16, 2018 0:39:26 GMT
Not in the least surprising. What real difference would there be having a unionist councillor? Especially if in achieving that they are then lumbered with a Tory councillor. i'm pretty certain that we've seen results like this go the other way. Well, the union is important to people and the nationalist/unionist dichotomy has been set up as the big thing. Maybe this will recede now it looks less likely that there will be a second referendum and that it would be won even if it was. True, I'm not denying we have seen unionist tactical voting in the past - I'm just saying I don't find it surprising that a unionist majority hasn't imposed itself since it's pretty irrelevant at council level. |
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