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Post by LDCaerdydd on Nov 13, 2012 20:38:55 GMT
Update: I think LabourList mispelt her name and it's Sophy Gardner. She is a member of Labour Friends of Forces, former RAF commander. Also shortlsited in Feltham & Heston And Cardiff South |
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Post by YL on Nov 13, 2012 20:56:44 GMT
BBC's Political Editor for Yorkshire and the North Midlands reports “Chaos at the #Labour Party selection meeting in #Rotherham as half the members walk out in protest because no local candidate short listed” More here twitter.com/TinglepoliticsThe ones who didn't walk out have selected Sarah Champion. |
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Post by iainbhx on Nov 13, 2012 21:43:24 GMT
Probably the right choice. I can imagine Sister Yvonne getting into a right tizzy about an ex-Forces person. She'll find it more difficult to attack someone who has managed a children's hospice - not that will stop her.
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Post by Tangent on Nov 14, 2012 0:52:42 GMT
According to twitter: of 110 members attending, 60 walked out, 50 stayed to choose a candidate, only 29 voted, Champion won by 13-11, and there were five spoilt ballots. If accurate, it could hardly have gone worse for Labour.
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Post by greatkingrat on Nov 14, 2012 0:57:23 GMT
Are we likely to see a disgruntled local candidate stand as an Independent?
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Post by Tangent on Nov 14, 2012 1:17:29 GMT
After a selection like that, there will be great pressure on the NEC to authorise a speedy reselection. If they do, they might have a chance of minimising the damage - but they might just conclude that Rotherham is not going to be lost, and plough ahead.
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Post by East Anglian Lefty on Nov 14, 2012 1:38:35 GMT
After a selection like that, there will be great pressure on the NEC to authorise a speedy reselection. If they do, they might have a chance of minimising the damage - but they might just conclude that Rotherham is not going to be lost, and plough ahead. If the NEC chose to order a reselection it would be an implicit admission of incompetence or malfeasance in creating an unacceptable shortlist. It's not hard to see why they might be reluctant to do that. Anyway, I'm not sure the rulebook even allows such a thing. Given that the swing in Stoke Central was no worse than in neighbouring seats, despite the chaos involved with that selection, there's reason to believe there won't be a big impact anyway. |
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Post by Sibboleth on Nov 14, 2012 2:37:49 GMT
This screaming about a lack of a local candidate when the woman selected is certainly that ought to raise eyebrows.
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Post by doktorb in absentia on Nov 14, 2012 5:15:43 GMT
Perhaps because it doesn't actually exist??  No, that's right. Phil Hammond closed it. It is a matter of public record Bish. You can deny it all you like. I will post the details when I get. home The continuous denials are absolutely pathetic. See this little number from the NAO from 2009. If you want more just let me know. www.nao.org.uk/publications/0910/mod_major_projects_report_2009.aspxBump |
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Post by iainbhx on Nov 14, 2012 6:29:16 GMT
This screaming about a lack of a local candidate when the woman selected is certainly that ought to raise eyebrows. I understand she's originally from Manchester and only moved to Rotherham a few years ago. For a lot of people, that's not local. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 14, 2012 6:57:08 GMT
Update: I think LabourList mispelt her name and it's Sophy Gardner. She is a member of Labour Friends of Forces, former RAF commander. Also shortlsited in Feltham & Heston And Cardiff South Applied but not shortlisted for that, I think. |
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Post by Tangent on Nov 14, 2012 10:27:45 GMT
This screaming about a lack of a local candidate when the woman selected is certainly that ought to raise eyebrows. I understand she's originally from Manchester and only moved to Rotherham a few years ago. For a lot of people, that's not local. And she's been a member of Labour for a shorter period than she's been a resident of Rotherham, apparently. |
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Post by Sibboleth on Nov 14, 2012 10:40:01 GMT
This screaming about a lack of a local candidate when the woman selected is certainly that ought to raise eyebrows. I understand she's originally from Manchester and only moved to Rotherham a few years ago. For a lot of people, that's not local. True enough, but doesn't really hold for these purposes (except to the excessively parochial, granted). |
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Post by Sibboleth on Nov 14, 2012 10:41:10 GMT
I understand she's originally from Manchester and only moved to Rotherham a few years ago. For a lot of people, that's not local. And she's been a member of Labour for a shorter period than she's been a resident of Rotherham, apparently. How awful. |
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Post by iainbhx on Nov 14, 2012 10:48:45 GMT
I understand she's originally from Manchester and only moved to Rotherham a few years ago. For a lot of people, that's not local. True enough, but doesn't really hold for these purposes (except to the excessively parochial, granted). It obviously mattered at the selection meeting, if the accounts are correct. It will also be interesting to understand why a candidate could be shortlisted for Middlesbrough, but not shortlisted for his home seat. |
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Post by iainbhx on Nov 14, 2012 10:49:32 GMT
I understand she's originally from Manchester and only moved to Rotherham a few years ago. For a lot of people, that's not local. And she's been a member of Labour for a shorter period than she's been a resident of Rotherham, apparently. I don't really think that should be a problem, as long as the ink isn't still wet on her application form. |
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Post by The Bishop on Nov 14, 2012 10:53:15 GMT
It will also be interesting to understand why a candidate could be shortlisted for Middlesbrough, but not shortlisted for his home seat I think we have a good idea why it happened in Middlesbrough, tbh  Anyway, horses for courses. The desire for a clean break in this instance is surely understandable, even if it has been less than perfectly executed  |
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Post by Tangent on Nov 14, 2012 10:55:32 GMT
I've got no dog in this fight myself - but it's bad management.
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Post by stepney on Nov 14, 2012 11:00:10 GMT
And she's been a member of Labour for a shorter period than she's been a resident of Rotherham, apparently. How awful. It's all well and good taking that attitude, though I agree with the point you're making, but it clearly misunderstands the members of the Labour Party in Rotherham. |
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Post by Tangent on Nov 14, 2012 11:04:18 GMT
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