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Post by Andrew_S on Nov 2, 2012 16:34:10 GMT
Denis MacShane has announced he is to resign as an MP.
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Post by danno on Nov 2, 2012 16:50:24 GMT
Result 2010 General election
Labour Denis MacShane 16,741 44.6 −13.1
Conservative Jackie Whiteley 6,279 16.7 +3.4
Liberal Democrat Rebecca Taylor 5,994 16.0 −0.4
BNP Marlene Guest 3,906 10.4 +4.5
Independent Peter Thirlwall 2,366 6.3 +6.3
UKIP Caven Vines 2,220 5.9 +2.0
Majority 10,462 27.9
Turnout 37,506 59.0 +4.9
Labour hold Swing −8.3
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Post by baloo on Nov 2, 2012 16:50:28 GMT
Wow, Dennis MacShane has done the honourable thing. You see an old dog can learn new tricks.
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Post by Andrew_S on Nov 2, 2012 16:51:22 GMT
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Post by andrea on Nov 2, 2012 16:54:03 GMT
Going down the memory lane and thanks to the precious online archive of Tribune Magazine, here's the Labour shortlist for the 1994 by-election:
Dennis MacShane
Rochdale Cllr Nazir Ahmed
Barbara Boyce, widow of the previous MP*
Colin Burgon (then MP for Elmet from 1997 to 2010)
Julie Owens
Hedley Salt (who was Barnsley Council Leader at the time)
The Independent candidate (Pete Thirlwall) who polled 6.3% in 2010 GE got 5 out of 8 branch nominations at the time but wasn't shortlisted by the NEC panel.
Incidentally, Colin Burgon's son was on Barnsley Central shortlist last year. I wouldn't be surprised to see Cllr Hussain (the one who is on Middlesbrough shortlist) and Cllr Emma Hoddinott (shortlisted in Barnsley Central and Leeds West. IIRC she was also in Makerfield final. She didn't got many votes anywhere though) to pop up here too.
* btw, is she the same Barbara Boyce who is now a Cllr in York?
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Post by Andrew_S on Nov 2, 2012 17:07:55 GMT
Lord Sutch polled 4.2% in the 1994 by-election, his best ever I think.
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Post by stepney on Nov 2, 2012 17:08:26 GMT
Any expenses associated with that post? |
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Post by greatkingrat on Nov 2, 2012 17:14:02 GMT
I have often wondered what the salary for the Steward of the Chiltern Hundreds is. Presumably they have to be paid some nominal amount otherwise it would not be "an office of profit under the Crown"?
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Post by The Bishop on Nov 2, 2012 17:17:09 GMT
Lord Sutch polled 4.2% in the 1994 by-election, his best ever I think. He was helped somewhat there by the paucity of candidates - just 5 in all. I suspect the number may be a bit higher this time. |
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Post by Sibboleth on Nov 2, 2012 17:18:56 GMT
Wonder whether anyone on the Barnsley shortlist turns up on this one as well.
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Post by timrollpickering on Nov 2, 2012 17:26:54 GMT
Lord Sutch polled 4.2% in the 1994 by-election, his best ever I think. He was helped somewhat there by the paucity of candidates - just 5 in all. I suspect the number may be a bit higher this time. IIRC this was also the Tempest-Beckett era when the OMRLP actually made an effort in elections, going all out to get the protest vote and sometimes forced serious parties to sit things out rather than risk being outpolled by loonies. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 2, 2012 17:31:35 GMT
In the 1892, 1910, 1916 and 1917 by-elections, the MP was elected unopposed. All of them were Liberals except for the last one, a Lib-Lab candidate.
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Post by Davıd Boothroyd on Nov 2, 2012 17:33:32 GMT
I have often wondered what the salary for the Steward of the Chiltern Hundreds is. Presumably they have to be paid some nominal amount otherwise it would not be "an office of profit under the Crown"? No, the actual salary is nil. It only has to be an office where the holder could potentially get paid to be a disqualification, as several MPs found out in the 1950s (they had posts which were clearly unpaid but had a theoretical entitlement to expenses; although they had never claimed, the posts were still disqualifying and retrospective legislation had to be passed). |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 2, 2012 17:38:18 GMT
I noticed whilst looking into the Steward etc. details on Wikipedia that there are, potentially, lots more of these 'positions' which could be used. I think some of the less well known ones should be given an airing once or twice, just for a change.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 2, 2012 17:47:09 GMT
Lord Sutch polled 4.2% in the 1994 by-election, his best ever I think. He was helped somewhat there by the paucity of candidates - just 5 in all. I suspect the number may be a bit higher this time. Was that the only time an OMRLP candidate has secured over a thousand votes? |
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Post by Andrew_S on Nov 2, 2012 17:52:21 GMT
He was helped somewhat there by the paucity of candidates - just 5 in all. I suspect the number may be a bit higher this time. Was that the only time an OMRLP candidate has secured over a thousand votes? I'm pretty sure it is and that the next best was 728 by Lord Sutch in Huntingdon in 1992. JohnLoony will know for certain. |
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Post by johnloony on Nov 2, 2012 18:07:08 GMT
Was that the only time an OMRLP candidate has secured over a thousand votes? In a parliamentary election, yes. OMRLP candidates have got more in European Parliament elections and in the Welsh Assembly election. In parliamentary elections it has been exceeded by a candidate for the Raving Loony Green Giant People's Party, which split away from the OMRLP in the 1980s. |
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Post by johnloony on Nov 2, 2012 18:12:16 GMT
... and that the next best was 728 by Lord Sutch in Huntingdon in 1992. JohnLoony will know for certain. David Sutch got 783 in Eastleigh in 1994, and 782 in LIttleborough & Saddleworth in 1995. |
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Post by Tony Otim on Nov 2, 2012 18:40:54 GMT
Result 2010 General election Labour Denis MacShane 16,741 44.6 −13.1 Conservative Jackie Whiteley 6,279 16.7 +3.4 Liberal Democrat Rebecca Taylor 5,994 16.0 −0.4 BNP Marlene Guest 3,906 10.4 +4.5 Independent Peter Thirlwall 2,366 6.3 +6.3 UKIP Caven Vines 2,220 5.9 +2.0 Majority 10,462 27.9 Turnout 37,506 59.0 +4.9 Labour hold Swing −8.3 Those figures do bear some similarity to the Barnsley Central 2010 figures. I wonder if UKIP can take advantage of LD and BNP difficulties and get second place again? |
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Post by AdminSTB on Nov 2, 2012 18:42:25 GMT
Certainly if the BNP vote collapses, and if the independent vote is assumed to be a largely anti-establishment vote, then it does seem to have good potential for UKIP. If not second, they could easily beat the Lib Dems for third.
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