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Post by iainbhx on Nov 14, 2012 18:45:04 GMT
According to his Facebook, which is largely public, he subscribes to the idea that HIV its a fake(d) disease. Right, so he's a complete and utter conspiracy twunt then. |
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Post by doktorb in absentia on Nov 14, 2012 18:59:55 GMT
According to his Facebook, which is largely public, he subscribes to the idea that HIV its a fake(d) disease. Not sure if that's the same person. Facebook profile says that Lane lives in Colchester, SoPN says the candidate lives in the Croydon North constituency. Well, same name, and a bit of Google and stalking suggests he is. Fake address? In any case, a loon. A proper one. |
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Post by AdminSTB on Nov 14, 2012 19:10:37 GMT
It's hard to tell. The postcode given in the address on his party's EC registration seems to link to the building of a "virtual office" company in central London. He's clearly gone to some extent to hide his address, which as a conspiracy theorist is probably expected, which in turn makes me further believe that he is not likely to have a publicly open Facebook account.
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Post by doktorb in absentia on Nov 14, 2012 19:12:58 GMT
It's hard to tell. The postcode given in the address on his party's EC registration seems to link to the building of a "virtual office" company in central London. He's clearly gone to some extent to hide his address, which as a conspiracy theorist is probably expected, which in turn makes me further believe that he is not likely to have a publicly open Facebook account. I agree, there's a contradiction, no doubt. But parts of the jigsaw match up, so you can see how it might be the same person. It's certainly very odd to have similar names on conspiracy subjects..... |
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Post by greatkingrat on Nov 14, 2012 19:52:11 GMT
From the Political Parties Registration thread nine eleven was an inside job* *or so says Mr Simon Lane, of Colchester. So it looks like he does live in Colchester and originally used his home address to register, before deciding it would be better to use an anonymous address. |
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Post by AdminSTB on Nov 14, 2012 20:12:19 GMT
So how is he listed on the ballot as living in the Croydon North constituency? Faked papers?
John, you might want to see the returning officer about this one. As long as you don't mind Lane claiming you're some secret Illuminati agent working against him... ;D
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Post by johnloony on Nov 14, 2012 21:22:36 GMT
The available window for objecting to other candidates' nomination papers was 4pm to 5pm today, so it's too late to object now.
I went to the Town Hall at 4pm to see the list of candidates as soon as it was put up, and by chance I met Mr Lane outside at about 3:50pm just as I was arriving. He seems to be a nice enough person, and immediately offered to buy me a drink (at the pub which is right next door to the Town Hall). He was keen to stress that doing so didn't constitute bribery, because I am a candidate and not a Croydon North voter. His friend was a bit taken aback that I only wanted a lemonade and that I didn't drink or smoke.
Mr Lane said he was renting an address in Croydon North "for the duration", and said he has only just registered "nine eleven was an inside job" as a party very recently. He is obviously new to the process (for example, he was impressed to realise that his preferred label fitted within the six-word limit) and I am sure that if he put a Croydon North address on his papers then he must have done so in good faith - perhaps he got confused between the home address and the agent's office address.
Anyway, I am grateful to Mr Lane for generously and kindly volunteering to make sure that (a) I won't come last (b) he might split a few votes away from Respect and might thereby cause Lee Jasper to lose his deposit (ha ha). Different policies but probably a similar demographic of likely voters.
Meanwhile, it appears that three different candidates went down the same road to collect their nomination signatures - three of the people who nominated me also signed the paper submitted by Mr Hammond (CPA), and he had to go out in the rain to get a few more.
A few weeks ago I suggested to the A.R.O. that the candidates should be arranged to line up on the stage for the declaration in alphabetical order. It was before i knew who any of the candidates would be, but I hasten to add that I would have no objections at all to standing next to Mr Edmonds or sharing a platform at hustings with him.
Mr Edmonds and Mr Hammond are the only candidates I have not yet met. I have met Lee Jasper slightly a few times before, but not so far during this campaign.
I think that I am correct in saying that Robin Smith (Young People's Party) is the fourth-oldest candidate.
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Post by johnloony on Nov 14, 2012 21:34:23 GMT
For those who thrive on statistics:
"Good afternoon. I am interested in standing as a candidate in the forthcoming by-election caused by the death of Malcolm Wicks MP, and in order to do so I need to be nominated by ten local people. Would you be interested in signing my nomination paper?"
First set of ten signatures (Bensham Manor ward):
Yes: 10
No: 13
Nobody answered the door: 50
The person who answered the door was not listed or ineligible to sign: 2
Time to collect 10 signatures: 2 hours 14 minutes
Ethnicity of the ten signatories:
White British 2
White Other 2
Black 6
Second set of ten signatures (South Norwood ward):
Yes: 10
No: 16
Nobody answered the door: 55
The person who answered the door was not listed or ineligible to sign: 1
Time to collect 10 signatures: 2 hours 18 minutes
Ethnicity of the ten signatories:
White British 4
Black 4
Asian 1
Mixed 1
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Post by Deleted on Nov 14, 2012 22:06:30 GMT
As someone who works in an office I have sometimes wondered why the Croydon post code area has a 0 rather than a 1 after the CR, the only such case in the entire country. Now I know. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CR_postcode_area |
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Post by johnloony on Nov 14, 2012 22:12:15 GMT
As someone who works in an office I have sometimes wondered why the Croydon post code area has a 0 rather than a 1 after the CR, the only such case in the entire country. Now I know. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CR_postcode_areaI was completely oblivious to both the fact and the reason. I am aware that people sometimes think that the CR0 is CRO, but I thought they were just making a mistake whereas they used to be accurate. |
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Post by AdminSTB on Nov 14, 2012 22:42:18 GMT
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Post by Tangent on Nov 14, 2012 23:15:53 GMT
He is the most prominent veteran of the British far right, now Tyndall and Jordan are dead.
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Post by john07 on Nov 14, 2012 23:22:24 GMT
He is the most prominent veteran of the British far right, now Tyndall and Jordan are dead. And Martin Webster is 'retired'. |
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Post by Davıd Boothroyd on Nov 14, 2012 23:37:22 GMT
And Martin Webster is 'retired'. A friend of mine bumped into him a few years ago in one of the London cycling groups. Took him some time to realise who he was. |
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Post by johnloony on Nov 14, 2012 23:50:45 GMT
National Front candidate doesn't fit the stereotypical look for his party,... You appear to have written that without even being aware of who Richard Edmonds is. He is one of the most prominent hardline unreconstructed veteran neo-fascists in the country. He is of the generation who stood shoulder-to-shoulder with John Tyndall in the 1970s, defected to the BNP in the early 1980s because the National Front wasn't racist enough, and then defected from the BNP to the National Front recently because the BNP wasn't racist enough. After the take-over of the BNP by Nick Griffin, and the death of John Tyndall, he was waiting for an opportunity to re-gain control (because, according to his philosophy, it would be only a matter of time before Nick Griffin fell from a position of leadership (due to the BNP going all soft and moderate)). The first person to sign his nomination paper this time is Tony Martin, who was until recently the BNP organiser for Croydon & Sutton. He fell out with the other Croydon BNP members because of disputes about the selection of GLA candidates (and other matters). |
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Post by AdminSTB on Nov 15, 2012 0:00:36 GMT
No, the name didn't ring any bells. He must be just before my time, I guess.
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Post by johnloony on Nov 15, 2012 0:10:47 GMT
No, the name didn't ring any bells. He must be just before my time, I guess. Of course. When the BNP won its first ever council seat (in a by-election in Millwall ward, Tower Hamlets, in September 1993) he was the national organiser of the BNP and was the prominent face of the BNP at that time. It was the second by-election in the same ward within the same 4-year council term, and the BNP vote went up from 0% to 20% to 34%; the BNP won on a three-way split-vote and a majority of 7 votes. It was huge news on the day (as much coverage as a prominent parliamentary by-election would get), and it prompted a huge get-out-the-vote operation in the main local election in May 1994 when the turnout in the ward went up to 67% and the BNP was heavily defeated by Labour. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Millwall_by-election,_1993 en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_Edmonds |
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Post by johnloony on Nov 15, 2012 0:18:10 GMT
One of the people who nominated Stephen Hammond told me that she wouldn't nominate me because she was a Jehovah's witness and didn't vote. Bah Humbug.
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Post by stepney on Nov 15, 2012 9:02:38 GMT
It was huge news on the day (as much coverage as a prominent parliamentary by-election would get), and it prompted a huge get-out-the-vote operation in the main local election in May 1994 when the turnout in the ward went up to 67% and the BNP was heavily defeated by Labour. I wish I had a copy of the Labour Rose headlined "BNP = NEGATIVE EQUITY". |
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Post by erlend on Nov 15, 2012 9:21:10 GMT
It was an inspired slogan. And I understand that rich professional and city types were ferrying Labour voters to the polls that May.
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