Crimson King
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Post by Crimson King on Nov 15, 2012 20:37:17 GMT
No, the name didn't ring any bells. He must be just before my time, I guess. Of course. When the BNP won its first ever council seat (in a by-election in Millwall ward, Tower Hamlets, in September 1993) he was the national organiser of the BNP and was the prominent face of the BNP at that time. It was the second by-election in the same ward within the same 4-year council term, and the BNP vote went up from 0% to 20% to 34%; the BNP won on a three-way split-vote and a majority of 7 votes. It was huge news on the day (as much coverage as a prominent parliamentary by-election would get), and it prompted a huge get-out-the-vote operation in the main local election in May 1994 when the turnout in the ward went up to 67% and the BNP was heavily defeated by Labour. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Millwall_by-election,_1993 en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_EdmondsNot before my time, but I admit I didn't recognise the name. I did however correctly recall the winning candidate was called Derek |
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Post by nord on Nov 15, 2012 20:54:20 GMT
Richard Edmonds has left the National Front, and joined "True Brits" which is Andrew Brons' new party. Since though they are very new and only just starting out they haven't made any preparations for elections and so the NF appears to just be a temporary name for Edmonds to stand under.
"True Brits" is though a completely toxic name, but the party has already started to internally collapse. The True Brits chairman Peter Phillips was kicked out of his position a few weeks back because he is homosexual. Members were complaining if True Brits is a nationalist party with family values, Phillips has to go.
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Post by anthony on Nov 15, 2012 21:04:26 GMT
One of the people who nominated Stephen Hammond told me that she wouldn't nominate me because she was a Jehovah's witness and didn't vote. Bah Humbug. Stephen Hammond, Wimbledon's MP? |
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leicester
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Post by leicester on Nov 15, 2012 23:35:29 GMT
Of course. When the BNP won its first ever council seat (in a by-election in Millwall ward, Tower Hamlets, in September 1993) he was the national organiser of the BNP and was the prominent face of the BNP at that time. It was the second by-election in the same ward within the same 4-year council term, and the BNP vote went up from 0% to 20% to 34%; the BNP won on a three-way split-vote and a majority of 7 votes. It was huge news on the day (as much coverage as a prominent parliamentary by-election would get), and it prompted a huge get-out-the-vote operation in the main local election in May 1994 when the turnout in the ward went up to 67% and the BNP was heavily defeated by Labour. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Millwall_by-election,_1993 en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_EdmondsNot before my time, but I admit I didn't recognise the name. I did however correctly recall the winning candidate was called Derek Anyone got a link to the anti BNP song that entered the charts after Derek Deacon won milwall. Edmonds is a quality speaker and campaigner met him many a time during my past time in the BNP |
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Post by doktorb in absentia on Nov 16, 2012 1:11:09 GMT
Richard Edmonds has left the National Front, and joined "True Brits" which is Andrew Brons' new party. Since though they are very new and only just starting out they haven't made any preparations for elections and so the NF appears to just be a temporary name for Edmonds to stand under. "True Brits" is though a completely toxic name, but the party has already started to internally collapse. The True Brits chairman Peter Phillips was kicked out of his position a few weeks back because he is homosexual. Members were complaining if True Brits is a nationalist party with family values, Phillips has to go. True Brits is also registered only for parish council elections |
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Post by johnloony on Nov 16, 2012 1:45:56 GMT
One of the people who nominated Stephen Hammond told me that she wouldn't nominate me because she was a Jehovah's witness and didn't vote. Bah Humbug. Stephen Hammond, Wimbledon's MP? Be ye silly not, O deranged and demented booliak |
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Post by agnostic on Nov 16, 2012 6:43:44 GMT
I have known Simon Lane (leader of nine eleven was an inside job) since he got his degree (mathematics, University of Cambridge, late '80s).
He's incredibly bright, and until a few years ago worked in a publicly traded company as a expert in cryptographic systems. He has since worked as a consultant in this field. Prior to that, he established trishaw (cycle rickshaw) businesses in Cambridge and later London.
As far as I am aware, he does believe that the virus HIV-1 is probably non-pathogenic. Obviously experiments to confirm pathogenicity in humans are hard to do in an ethical and robust way. It's pretty clear that HIV and AIDS are very unusual in their operation (compared to, say, chickenpox), and more research is needed whatever view you take. But that is not the question here.
The party he formed promotes the idea that the 9/11 attacks were "a crime committed by or with the assistance of a person living or working on the premises where it occurred" (from the party constitution, and exactly as defined in the dictionary). Since a serious crime was committed, the evidence should be collected for testing in a court of law - if any suspects are still alive. All persons are innocent until proven guilty.
The party holds *no views* of whether the crimes were committed by a group (conspiracy) or just by a single person. It holds no view on the "official" explanation, nor on any of a whole host of crackpot theories found on the internet. A party which attempted to place the blame on any individuals or groups would obviously be subject to being shot down as libelous, defamatory, and subject to conjecture in the absence of adequate evidence.
In fact, nine eleven was an inside job was formed as a response in *opposition* to the plethora of bogus explanations circulating online. Nobody who has read the constitution can be of any doubt on this (it is pretty clear and unambiguous).
The question of what exactly happened is important to the security and safety of people in the UK - and hence to our MPs. Firstly, Britain's involvement in Afghanistan, and the wider defence policy rests on the analysis and extrapolations of 9/11 events. Even the issue of sudden building collapses is of importance to structural engineering.
As regards talk of possible "fake addresses", "faked papers" and so on is a bit "below the belt", I think.
Simon has lived in Cambridge, Colchester, Japan, Australia and elsewhere during the past few years. He likes travel. With earnings from his career as a highly paid consultant in crypto, he's had the freedom to travel and work as and when he pleases. Lucky sod... but a passion for travel doesn't translate into clearly going to "hide his address"!
I think he's living in Croydon North at the moment, so he may be on the electoral register there (rolling registration for voting now). The party Treasurer I believe is a former senior economic adviser to the Department of Trade and Industry (his dad!).
In terms of policies on the broad range of topics, current party policy advocates the use of IT systems to facilitate a more direct democratic form (where an MP aims to directly effect the constituents' will, rather than trying to judgement to represent their interests). Simon opposes the system of party whipping whereby MPs' party interests often override the clear public will in Commons votes. It doesn't need a formal Swiss style referendum system to do this.
I think the bogus headline newspaper "9/11 conspiracy theorist among final list of Croydon North candidates" has triggered some "hot buttons" among people here, and the stream of "theorising" about Simon is quite laughable (and obviously ironic!) when you know the guy. And he is open on FaceBook too.
With Simon's scientific/mathematical and computer security background you'd expect him to be very wary of jumping to premature conclusions on anything, and he will have considered his candidacy and the attacks he will face from media and the public very seriously.
Any other questions I might answer for you?
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Post by cibwr on Nov 16, 2012 7:49:49 GMT
Yes is he on any medication?
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Post by anthony on Nov 16, 2012 9:15:44 GMT
agnostic - you wouldn't happen to be him, would you?
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Crimson King
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Post by Crimson King on Nov 16, 2012 9:55:56 GMT
Anthony, you are making the mistake of confusing multiple personality disorder with Schizophrenia ;-)
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Post by agnostic on Nov 16, 2012 11:46:24 GMT
agnostic - you wouldn't happen to be him, would you? Actually I'm just a ordinary party member - replying to somewhat ridiculous "theories" about an old college friend of mine  |
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The Bishop
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Post by The Bishop on Nov 16, 2012 11:48:40 GMT
agnostic - you wouldn't happen to be him, would you? Actually I'm just a ordinary party member - replying to somewhat ridiculous "theories" about an old college friend of mine Which party?? |
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Post by marksenior on Nov 16, 2012 12:57:22 GMT
Important betting opportunity put up by Shadsy of Ladbrokes .
John Loony special .
100 votes or more 5/6
99 votes or less 5/6
I will be wagering £ 10 it is 100 votes plus .
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Post by Pete Whitehead on Nov 16, 2012 12:59:12 GMT
I think he should certainly get over 100 but what crap odds it isn;t worth bothering with
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Post by marksenior on Nov 16, 2012 13:07:08 GMT
I think he should certainly get over 100 but what crap odds it isn;t worth bothering with I think 5/6 are actually very good odds ( and in fact your use of the word certainly emphasises this ) , if you are a big better and Ladbrokes accept the bet John could pay for his deposit . My £ 10 will in fact be £ 12 to win £ 10 . |
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Post by Davıd Boothroyd on Nov 18, 2012 19:22:36 GMT
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Post by stepney on Nov 18, 2012 19:26:41 GMT
I've offered to join the Loony campaign day and been rejected, alas.  Had to instead join the Tory campaign day which bears little relation to the tweet. |
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Post by Andrew_S on Nov 18, 2012 19:27:47 GMT
The most interesting thing about this by-election I think is what happens to the Tory vote. It's difficult to predict whether it'll hold up reasonably well or collapse quite badly.
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Post by stepney on Nov 18, 2012 19:30:24 GMT
The most interesting thing about this by-election I think is what happens to the Tory vote. It's difficult to predict whether it'll hold up reasonably well or collapse quite badly. To be fair, it's spent twenty years quietly collapsing through (hem!) "demographic change". There's not very far left to fall. |
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Post by AdminSTB on Nov 18, 2012 20:21:53 GMT
Just put £12 on John to win over 100 votes. Don't let me down!  |
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Had to instead join the Tory campaign day which bears little relation to the tweet.
