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Post by Andrew_S on Aug 6, 2012 16:14:33 GMT
As I wrote elsewhere the really damaging thing about this for the Tories is that if Labour gain the seat at the by-election they'd almost certainly win it again IMO at the next general election whereas without a by-election the Tories might just have been able to hold it (although Labour would probably still have been favourites).
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Post by Pimpernal on Aug 6, 2012 16:20:21 GMT
I am very disappointed in Louise Mensch. I was going to say she spoke very highly of you... sadly, she didn't... |
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Post by Pimpernal on Aug 6, 2012 17:13:35 GMT
Rock n Metal fans will be relieved that they are no longer supporting a family tainted by their involvement in this disgusting ConDem govt anyways... ;D
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Post by Deleted on Aug 6, 2012 17:31:54 GMT
Surely setting up Twitter rip-off vanity project 'Menschn' is enough to earn anyone's ire? well once that became well known you knew she was off. who the hell names a product after themselves ? |
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Post by tricky on Aug 6, 2012 17:43:06 GMT
Surely setting up Twitter rip-off vanity project 'Menschn' is enough to earn anyone's ire? well once that became well known you knew she was off. who the hell names a product after themselves ? Well for a start it is called Menshn not Menschn and for a second you just revealed on another thread that you have purchased a Boardman bike. How do you think they came up with that name? |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 6, 2012 17:47:01 GMT
who the hell names a product after themselves ? Ford, Sinclaire, Dyson, Barclay, Birds-Eye, off the top of my head. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 6, 2012 18:02:47 GMT
well once that became well known you knew she was off. who the hell names a product after themselves ? Well for a start it is called Menshn not Menschn and for a second you just revealed on another thread that you have purchased a Boardman bike. How do you think they came up with that name? indeed so ... but he was a bit successful eh ? |
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Post by Pimpernal on Aug 6, 2012 18:57:47 GMT
who the hell names a product after themselves ?  wtf  uh? |
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Post by Philip Davies on Aug 6, 2012 19:17:56 GMT
How many MPs have been first elected at a General
election and resigned within their first term?
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Post by LDCaerdydd on Aug 6, 2012 21:51:17 GMT
I've looked on Wiki and gone back to 1970 and found no examples like Louise Mensh, the closest are:
Roy Beggs, Clifford Forsythe, Cecil Walker and Ken Maginnis where all elected in 1983 and resigned in 1985 to fight and won the following by elections.
Jim Nicholson was elected in 1983 resigned to do the same and was unsuccessful.
Sir Peter Soulsby who served one term and resigned 11 months into his second comes close.
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Post by Crimson King on Aug 6, 2012 21:59:01 GMT
This has to represent a serious blow to Cameron's strategy of getting more people like Louise Mensch into parliament. From now on Tory associations will use her as an example of why they should choose their own candidates without any interference from Central Office. It does highlight a pitfall of selecting 'celebrity' candidates. A lot of them, once elected, may find the routine of constituency work and being a backbench MP boring - and they don't really need the money either so there's no incentive to stick around. I think there is a lot in this. I am sure we are all aware of the sheer ignorance of the reality of politics that many people have - the people who don't consider that having 30,000 doors in a constituency might explain why the MP hasn't popped in to visit them for a couple of weeks and such like. Those of us, in all parties who have got to the point of candidacy (let alone election)by the hard route of cold nights on the doorstep, wet afternoons delivering increasingly soggy leaflets, ill attended meeting with the terminally belligerent and dissatisfied, will probably have a more realistic view than someone who has been plucked from another walk of life and dropped into the rather special environment that is electoral politics |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 6, 2012 22:02:58 GMT
It shocked me when I got involved more in the CLP just how much casework an MP gets. We could argue whether they should have that much but it is not n easy job and especially for MPs with lets say poorer areas. Not saying shire MP's have it easy BTW ...
maybe it did just shock her but the timing is bad for Cameron for sure.
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Post by Davıd Boothroyd on Aug 6, 2012 22:06:22 GMT
There are a several cases of MPs serving only a single term out of choice; David Howarth (Cambridge 2005-2010) is the most recent example, and Colin Mitchell ('Mad Mitch' of Aden fame) is a noted past case.
The last case of a sitting MP voluntarily standing down in the middle of their first Parliament would appear to be Malcolm St Clair, although his is a somewhat special case given that he was declared elected on petition through disqualification of his only opponent.
Before that was Sidney Schofield, who was elected Labour MP for Barnsley in a postponed poll that was part of the 1951 election, and then resigned on 21 January 1953.
Perhaps an honourable mention (or 'menshn') should be made of Frank Cousins, who was an MP for under two years before standing down voluntarily, but who did serve in two Parliaments. He was elected in a January 1965 byelection, re-elected in the 1966 general election, and took the Manor of Northstead on 5 December 1966.
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Post by john07 on Aug 6, 2012 22:24:21 GMT
The last case of a sitting MP voluntarily standing down in the middle of their first Parliament would appear to be Malcolm St Clair, although his is a somewhat special case given that he was declared elected on petition through disqualification of his only opponent. Was he the opponent of Tony Wedgwood-Benn in Bristol? |
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Post by The Bishop on Aug 6, 2012 22:33:56 GMT
Yes, indeed.
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Post by tricky on Aug 6, 2012 22:40:24 GMT
Well for a start it is called Menshn not Menschn and for a second you just revealed on another thread that you have purchased a Boardman bike. How do you think they came up with that name? indeed so ... but he was a bit successful eh ? In social media terms so was she. Also in the field of writing books. |
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Post by Sibboleth on Aug 6, 2012 22:44:29 GMT
If you can call them that.
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Post by tricky on Aug 6, 2012 22:46:29 GMT
I avoided the word literature.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 7, 2012 7:53:25 GMT
There are a several cases of MPs serving only a single term out of choice Sheila Wright, Birmingham Handsworth 1979-83? |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 7, 2012 8:48:55 GMT
There are a several cases of MPs serving only a single term out of choice Sheila Wright, Birmingham Handsworth 1979-83? Does Martin Bell count ?? |
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