Polls Archive

[marksenior]

Oct 22, 2012 7:01:09 GMT Pimpernal said:

Oct 21, 2012 10:03:42 GMT greatkingrat said:

It will be interesting to see in how many places UKIP can beat the LDs n the PCC elections.

Sadly this won't be tested in Kent as the LDs have failed to put a candidate up... which I suspect may have saved Senior from eating his Maidstone crumble...

Unfortunately the Lib Dems have put up candidates in some of the waste of time/money PCC elections . I will be treating them with the same respect that most voters will , sit at home and refuse to use my postal vote .

[Deleted]

or simply they do not have the cash ?

[Crimson King]

Oct 23, 2012 11:12:29 GMT @trident said:

Oct 23, 2012 10:16:20 GMT marksenior said:

Unfortunately the Lib Dems have put up candidates in some of the waste of time/money PCC elections . I will be treating them with the same respect that most voters will , sit at home and refuse to use my postal vote .

Of course, you are in another police force area where the LibDems are not standing a candidate even though they have an MP (Norman Baker in Lewes).

I really don't understand the LibDems' position; there have been controversial local government reorganisations in the past but the three parties have always stood candidates even if they didn't agree with the structure of the new authorities.

It could be that they have realistically decided that they have no chance in such large constituencies, but even in the days of FPTP European elections they used to field a full slate even though only at most one or two had a chance of being elected.

I think the difference is that whilst you may have a view on the structure (or for that matter electoral systems) of local government we are still in favour of elected local government in general. However there is a significant view in the party (I think) that the whole principal of elected police commissioners is wrong and that particpating in the process is only encouraging them and should be eschewed. Whether you take the solution that we came up with as bottling the decision centrally, or evidence of a commitment to local decision making is another question.

The same dificult decisions will apply to individual LDs voting - do you go with your instinct to vote for any candidate of the party or contribute to the low turnout in the hope of undermining the legitimancy of the PCC.

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Oct 23, 2012 11:26:22 GMT Crimson King said:

However there is a significant view in the party (I think) that the whole principal of elected police commissioners is wrong and that particpating in the process is only encouraging them and should be eschewed. Whether you take the solution that we came up with as bottling the decision centrally, or evidence of a commitment to local decision making is another question.

I would say that in Labour 90% or more hate these elections but as we have often said we have to participate in them them.

Take Dfyed for example, an area you had a good chance of winning and have you handed over the area to Labour by withdrawing and making a straight choice for anti govt people to go for ?

For a political party that makes no real sense really. I do hope that in our 2015 manifesto of course we will pledge to repeal ASAP and replace with stronger police authority bodies.

[tricky]

There's an election. The electorate gets a chance to vote. The electorate should have a choice.

Democracy is not a bad thing.

I shall be voting Liberal Democrat.

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you can of course, what happens to LD supporters without the choice, stay at home or hold their nose and vote for another party or if there is a choice, an independent they like ?

[Pete Whitehead]

Oct 23, 2012 11:12:29 GMT @trident said:

Oct 23, 2012 10:16:20 GMT marksenior said:

Unfortunately the Lib Dems have put up candidates in some of the waste of time/money PCC elections . I will be treating them with the same respect that most voters will , sit at home and refuse to use my postal vote .

Of course, you are in another police force area where the LibDems are not standing a candidate even though they have an MP (Norman Baker in Lewes).

I'm getting concerned by trident's inability to count to more than one when it comes to Lib Dem MPs

[Andrew_S]

ComRes:

CON 33%(-2): LAB 44%(+6): LD 12% (-3)

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[The Bishop]

ComRes all over the place at the minute ;D

[Deleted]

nice reading, as long as you don't take it too seriously .....

[Deleted]

Finally Comres falls into line, something previously was wrong with their methodology clearly

[Deleted]

interesting little snippet

YouGov: Best Chancellor in last 30 years - Brown 20%, Lawson 10%, Clarke 7%, Major 6%, Howe 4%, Darling 3%, Lamont 2%, Osborne 1%

Surprised Clarke is not higher to be honest

[Tony Otim]

Nov 1, 2012 20:28:33 GMT @ianrobo said:

interesting little snippet

YouGov: Best Chancellor in last 30 years - Brown 20%, Lawson 10%, Clarke 7%, Major 6%, Howe 4%, Darling 3%, Lamont 2%, Osborne 1%

Surprised Clarke is not higher to be honest

Agree with the comment about Clarke. Brown and Lawson both a bit over-rated IMO (how's that for balance) and I'm not sure I'd put even Osborne below Lamont.

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people could argue the two recent recessions came from Brown's and Lawson's policies and where we are now is because of what Lawson started ?

[East Anglian Lefty]

One issue is that there have been many more Conservative than Labour chancellors. Another issue may be that it's harder to get credit nearer the time you take the actions.

That said, not an impressive score for Osborne and a better one for Brown than you'd expect given the press he gets.

[Deleted]

Observer/Opinium poll: LAB 41%, CON 30%, LDEM 9%, UKIP 10%

[gwynthegriff]

Oct 23, 2012 11:41:29 GMT @ianrobo said:

Take Dfyed for example, an area you had a good chance of winning and have you handed over the area to Labour by withdrawing and making a straight choice for anti govt people to go for ?

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[Andrew_S]

YouGov:

Lab 44%
Con 32%
LD 8%
UKIP 8%

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TNS Poll

CON 31% (nc), LAB 41% (-1), LDEM 9% (nc), UKIP 9% (+1).

[The Bishop]

The latest Ipsos/MORI - LibDem 9 Con 32........and Labour 46

A new record in any poll for Labour since the GE - though not quite the biggest lead (which remains 44-28)