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Post by The Bishop on Dec 9, 2017 11:56:16 GMT
Spoilsport  (though I did guess it was actually something along those lines tbf) |
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Post by Pete Whitehead on Dec 9, 2017 12:02:23 GMT
The names of those states/provinces are really number 1, number 2 etc ? It was bad enough when some councils used to have wards named in that way..
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Post by maxque on Dec 9, 2017 12:22:16 GMT
The names of those states/provinces are really number 1, number 2 etc ? It was bad enough when some councils used to have wards named in that way.. The provincial assemblies will have to decide on their names by themselves (with a 2/3 majority needed). |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 9, 2017 12:39:40 GMT
The names of those states/provinces are really number 1, number 2 etc ? It was bad enough when some councils used to have wards named in that way.. The provincial assemblies will have to decide on their names by themselves (with a 2/3 majority needed). Yes, the only sensible solution. Any centrally designated terminology would have been controversial. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 9, 2017 13:40:45 GMT
CPN-UML also ahead in the Provincial Assemblies count (there are 330 FPTP seats and counting has begun in 260 of them).
Won (59):
CPN-UML 35
Maoist Centre 12
Nepali Congress 7
Others 5
Leading (201):
CPN-UML 89
Maoist Centre 52
Nepali Congress 38
Others 22
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Post by Deleted on Dec 9, 2017 19:06:52 GMT
Status:
Won (59):
CPN-UML 33
Maoist Centre 14
Nepali Congress 6
Others 6
Lead (103):
CPN-UML 48
Maoist Centre 20
Nepali Congress 18
Others 17
Still three constituencies that haven't started counting. Likely due to "irregularities" or attacks.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 9, 2017 19:20:00 GMT
As predicted several Democratic Alliance heavyweights have lost.
Nepali Congress "senior leader" Shekher Koirala lost to Lal Babu Pandit (CPN-UML) in Morang-6 by a 675 Margin.
Rastriya Prajatantra Party (Democratic) leader Pashupati Shumsher Rana was defeated by Sher Bahadur Tamang (CPN-UML) in Sindhupalchowk-2 by an 8,000+ margin (38,401 to 30,369).
While current Minister for Information and Communication Mohan Basnet (NC) has been defeated by former Minister for Information and Communication Agni Sapkota (Maoist Centre) in adjacent Sindhupalchowk-1 by a 10,700+ margin.
Nepali Congress leader Nabindra Raj Joshi has lost to Jivan Ram Shrestha (CPN-UML) in Kathmandu-8 by a 450 margin. The reverse of the 2nd Constituent Assembly election in 2013, when Joshi defeated Shrestha.
Nepali Congress senior women leader Ambika Basnet has lost Kathmandu-3 to Krishna Rai (CPN-UML) with a 4,200+ margin (19,169 to 14,884).
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Post by Deleted on Dec 9, 2017 19:43:19 GMT
The three constituencies that haven't started counting are the two Syangja constituencies in "Province 4" and Arghakhanchi in "Province 5". All three are NC vs. Maoist Centre contests with no minor candidates.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 10, 2017 11:11:24 GMT
The count is now well under way in Arghakhanchi, where Maoist Centre has a solid lead, but hasn't begun in the two Syangja constituencies.
Status:
Won (105):
CPN-UML 59
Maoist Centre 24
Nepali Congress 12
Others 10
Lead (58):
CPN-UML 23
Maoist Centre 10
Nepali Congress 10
Others 15
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Post by Deleted on Dec 10, 2017 13:01:48 GMT
Maoist Centre heading for a win in Arghakhanchi.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 10, 2017 13:38:27 GMT
Maoist Centre heading for a win in Arghakhanchi. Yes, but they were ahead from the start (see post above), so unsurprising. Its a bit of a random post. Do you have an interest in the place, or been there? (there are some famous temples), or was it just because I mentioned it above as one of the three that hadn't started counting yet? |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 10, 2017 14:35:39 GMT
All ten Kathmandu constituencies finished. CPN-UML win six (2,3,5,7,8 and 9) and Congress four (1,4,6, and 10).
In the two other districts in the Kathmandu valley CPN-UML has won two of the three in Lalitpur, and Maoist Centre the last one. CPN-UML has won one of the two in Bhaktapur, while Prem Suwal from the Nepal Workers and Peasants Party has a comfortable lead in Bhaktapur-1, where veteran Communist leader Narayan Man Bijukchhe has stepped down (the party more or less own that constituency, and Narayan Man Bijukchhe had won it five times - every election from 1990 onwards).
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Post by Deleted on Dec 10, 2017 15:26:07 GMT
Maoist Centre heading for a win in Arghakhanchi. Yes, but they were ahead from the start (see post above), so unsurprising. Its a bit of a random post. Do you have an interest in the place, or been there? (there are some famous temples), or was it just because I mentioned it above as one of the three that hadn't started counting yet? I'm just reading through an article I found. The places I've been to all seem to have declared. Edit: I lie, two in Chitwan are still counting. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 10, 2017 21:40:16 GMT
The count is now under way in 164 of 165 constituencies with only Syangja 2 missing. Syangja 1 is currently a 100-100 tie between Congress and Maoist Centre, so they have only just begun.
Won (133):
CPN-UML 71
Maoist Centre 27
Nepali Congress 17
Others 18
Leading (30):
CPN-UML 10
Maoist Centre 8
Nepali Congress 4
Others 8
Tie (1):
Maoist Centre/Nepali Congress
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Post by Deleted on Dec 11, 2017 0:33:18 GMT
The count is now under way in 164 of 165 constituencies with only Syangja 2 missing. Syangja 1 is currently a 100-100 tie between Congress and Maoist Centre CPN-UML, so they have only just begun. (...) There has been a graphical error for the two Syangja constituencies - they aren't Maoist /Congress contests, but CPN-UML/Congress, and CPN-UML are leading in both now that the count is well under way with 3-4,000 votes counted in each. So with the count ongoing in all 165 constituencies its now: Won (135): CPN-UML 72 Maoist Centre 28 Nepali Congress 17 Others 18 Leading (30): CPN-UML 10 Maoist Centre 7 Nepali Congress 5 Others 8 |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 11, 2017 8:48:27 GMT
What the Success of the Left Alliance Means for NepalOn the relationship between the two Communist leaders: "On the campaign trail, Prachanda (Maoist Centre) was seen as openly projecting Oli (CPN-UML) as the new prime minister. Apparently, the deal is that while Oli will lead the country, Prachanda will head the new party formed after the left merger. (A more cynical interpretation is that Prachanda is looking for Oli, who has multiple heath issues, to step down sooner rather than later so that he can then become the undisputed communist leader in Nepal.)" On the China/India balance he stresses that everyone wants to balance India and China, which makes the simplistic pro-India vs. pro-China narrative misleading.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 11, 2017 8:59:52 GMT
Nepali Congress ends up with a paltry 21 FPTP seats; they may well finish below 50 seats when the PR votes are counted, which would be a humiliation.
Won (151):
CPN-UML 74
Maoist Centre 32
Nepali Congress 21
Others 24
Leading (14):
CPN-UML 7
Maoist Centre 3
Nepali Congress 0
Others 4
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Post by Deleted on Dec 11, 2017 9:05:33 GMT
Provincial assemblies (330):
Won (291):
CPN-UML 152
Maoist Centre 65
Nepali Congress 36
Others 38
Leading (34):
CPN-UML 11
Maoist Centre 10
Nepali Congress 6
Others 7
Five constituencies haven't started counting.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 11, 2017 9:47:51 GMT
Am I reading that correctly? ‘Maoist centre’! The two positions are contradictory! "Maoist Centre" - that will makes the heads of some explode  Nepalese Communists use centre for the main party within a tradition, the "centre of gravity" so to speak. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 11, 2017 10:12:35 GMT
Despite their rather alarming names and histories, the left-wing parties in Nepal are not running on a doctrinaire communist programme.
In part, this outcome is a result of the incoherence and intellectual bankruptcy of the non-left parties. The Congress Party's historic links to India are also problematic at a time when relations between the two countries have been difficult.
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