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Post by Andrew_S on Nov 9, 2017 23:37:48 GMT
Green vote continuing to swing heavily to Labour in this type of area.
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Post by andrew111 on Nov 9, 2017 23:38:28 GMT
I disagree, Andrew. I have always found sole canvassing to be soul-destroying and lonely - particularly in a weak area on a cold and rainy night. I've not done it for years because of that. I have always found group canvassing to be much more enjoyable and have got much more done as a result. I think that group canvassing is more motivating - even if one person is just directing others - and I think more gets done. Yes, I have to agree. I have a belief that the best way to get people involved in a party is to make the political activity as much fun and interesting as possible. Some branches seem to put a lot of effort into social events to keep members happy, which has it's place, but if I join (say) an AmDram group or cricket club, I want to act or play cricket and then maybe go for a pint after. I'd rather go out with a bunch of fellow-LDs and canvass, leaflet or whatever, with scope for a bit of a chat between houses and then maybe a drink after, than be asked to go out knocking on doors on my own for a couple of hours with some sort of social event - quite possibly dire - later on as "a reward for all your hard work". If someone is happier being the person with the cards or the smartphone (or being a lone wolf like andrew111 ) then that's OK, all those things are useful too. Well, I am not at all against going out in a group and going to the pub, but the enjoyment for me is having control of the canvass card, looking at what sort of people are in the house (family, elderly, young tenants, previous canvas etc) and then being prepared to approach them somewhat differently. So I would put a pair onto a street and tell them to do one side each, or give someone a card to finish and then get another one...
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Post by Deleted on Nov 9, 2017 23:41:22 GMT
It might be that the swing is smaller here than other wards? Its lower than the swing in June and the London council poll seemed to suggest things havent changed much
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Post by Deleted on Nov 9, 2017 23:42:05 GMT
WANDSWORTH Thamesfield John Locker (C) 1,910 Sally Warren (Lab) 1,101 Ryan Mercer (LD) 619 Di McCann (Grn) 275 That seems quite a decent score for us, especially as I'd expect a squeeze from Labour. Hard working candidate who stood in the general. Albeit with a unique campaigning style.
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Post by thetop on Nov 9, 2017 23:42:23 GMT
If that swing were replicated across the borough in next year’s council elections, which Conservative seats/wards would fall to Labour? Just the split wards would go uniformly Labour (amounting to 5 seats changing hands - C 36 L 24).
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Post by Adam in Stroud on Nov 9, 2017 23:43:01 GMT
That seems quite a decent score for us, especially as I'd expect a squeeze from Labour. Hard working candidate who stood in the general. Albeit with a unique campaigning style. Do tell.
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Post by andrew111 on Nov 9, 2017 23:43:06 GMT
What's the swing in Thamesfield? 4.8% Con to Lab I think technically yes, but in reality a swing from Green to Labour (and Green to Lib Dem) mainly
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Post by Davıd Boothroyd on Nov 9, 2017 23:45:31 GMT
FAREHAM Stubbington
FOREST Jim (Liberal Democrat) 1,185 HAYRE Pal (The Conservative Party Candidate) 769 ANNEAR Andy (UKIP) 117 RANDALL Mathew James (Labour Party Candidate) 76
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Post by Deleted on Nov 9, 2017 23:48:19 GMT
Hard working candidate who stood in the general. Albeit with a unique campaigning style. Do tell. Stands outside the tube with rosette on staring at people going in and out.
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Post by Khunanup on Nov 9, 2017 23:48:35 GMT
Stubbington is Lib Dem gain
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Post by Adam in Stroud on Nov 9, 2017 23:50:56 GMT
Stands outside the tube with rosette on staring at people going in and out. That's genius. If it gets him a 5% swing from the Greens I might try it in Chalford, though the absence of any tube stations might be a problem.
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Post by andrew111 on Nov 9, 2017 23:51:02 GMT
Britain Elects @britainelects 3m3 minutes ago
Gospel Oak (Camden) result:
LAB: 57.5% (+10.5) LDEM: 25.7% (+18.7) CON: 15.2% (-2.4) EDEM: 1.6% (+1.6)
Lab HOLD.
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Post by Adam in Stroud on Nov 9, 2017 23:52:19 GMT
FAREHAM Stubbington FOREST Jim (Liberal Democrat) 1,185 HAYRE Pal (The Conservative Party Candidate) 769 ANNEAR Andy (UKIP) 117 RANDALL Mathew James (Labour Party Candidate) 76 That is a pretty impressive gain. Notionally it must be mainly swing from UKIP, but God knows what actually happened.
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Post by Davıd Boothroyd on Nov 9, 2017 23:54:14 GMT
CAMDEN Gospel Oak
Jenny Mulholland (Lab) 1,144 Jill Fraser (LD) 510 Marx de Morais (C) 303 Max Spencer (EDP) 31
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Post by andrew111 on Nov 9, 2017 23:55:00 GMT
Evidently the voters of Gospel Oak were not too impressed by Marx and his style of pavement politics! (possibly preferring the real thing from the Lib Dems if they were not going to vote Labour!)
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Post by Terry Weldon on Nov 9, 2017 23:55:14 GMT
Britain Elects @britainelects
Stubbington (Fareham) result:
LDEM: 55.2% (+32.4)
CON: 35.8% (+6.1)
UKIP: 5.4% (-37.9)
LAB: 3.5% (-0.5)
LDem GAIN from UKIP.
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Post by iain on Nov 9, 2017 23:56:32 GMT
Britain Elects @britainelects 3m3 minutes ago Gospel Oak (Camden) result: LAB: 57.5% (+10.5) LDEM: 25.7% (+18.7) CON: 15.2% (-2.4) EDEM: 1.6% (+1.6) Lab HOLD. Changes from the by-election earlier this year: Labour +7.3% Lib Dem +5.6% Conservative -2.7%
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Post by andrew111 on Nov 9, 2017 23:56:40 GMT
Britain Elects @britainelects 2m2 minutes ago
Stubbington (Fareham) result:
LDEM: 55.2% (+32.4) CON: 35.8% (+6.1) UKIP: 5.4% (-37.9) LAB: 3.5% (-0.5)
LDem GAIN from UKIP.
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Post by Robert Waller on Nov 9, 2017 23:57:11 GMT
Labour HOLD in Buckley Bistre West, Flintshire. I don't know where you got this from, Maxque? It's the only one from which we are awaiting detailed figures.
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Post by andrew111 on Nov 9, 2017 23:59:50 GMT
re. Gospel Oak: Where I live 25.7% would be almost enough to win! (Well, 5 Parties did get over 10% in 2016!)
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