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Post by Deleted on Dec 3, 2019 10:31:37 GMT
The Nats have tacitly dealt with the Tories before, of course. Salmond and Annabel Goldie supposedly had a cordial working relationship. The SNP prefer to forget that nowadays.
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Post by thirdchill on Dec 3, 2019 12:36:44 GMT
The Nats have tacitly dealt with the Tories before, of course. Salmond and Annabel Goldie supposedly had a cordial working relationship. The SNP prefer to forget that nowadays. And that first SNP administration worked very well. Better than the subsequent administrations. Salmond did very well with the minority administration he had at the time. It was one of the main reasons they then got a majority after that. The SNP did get some policies through with support from the conservatives and others with support of the lib dems.
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Post by Tony Otim on Dec 3, 2019 14:24:12 GMT
The Nats have tacitly dealt with the Tories before, of course. Salmond and Annabel Goldie supposedly had a cordial working relationship. The SNP prefer to forget that nowadays. So do the Conservatives, a lot of the time 😉
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Post by Forfarshire Conservative on Dec 3, 2019 16:30:56 GMT
Salmond and Annabel Goldie supposedly had a cordial working relationship. The SNP prefer to forget that nowadays. And that first SNP administration worked very well. Better than the subsequent administrations. Salmond did very well with the minority administration he had at the time. It was one of the main reasons they then got a majority after that. The SNP did get some policies through with support from the conservatives and others with support of the lib dems. I completely agree. The scrapping of prescription charges and university fees was, and is, the right thing to do. Ditto social care but that was at the start of devolution and supported by all the parties unanimously.
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Post by tonygreaves on Dec 3, 2019 20:26:27 GMT
The Nats have tacitly dealt with the Tories before, of course. Salmond and Annabel Goldie supposedly had a cordial working relationship. The SNP prefer to forget that nowadays.
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Post by formerfifer on Dec 6, 2019 0:24:57 GMT
The Times in Scotland are running details of new YouGov poll
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Post by Tom on Dec 6, 2019 0:25:43 GMT
Another bullshit poll. The SNP aren't getting 44%.
Someone really needs to get a grip on Scottish polls, they're always wrong.
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Post by robbienicoll on Dec 6, 2019 0:31:45 GMT
Another bullshit poll. The SNP aren't getting 44%. Someone really needs to get a grip on Scottish polls, they're always wrong. Then the chucking of the numbers through Scotland Votes and pretending that counts as a legitimate projection.
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Post by Tom on Dec 6, 2019 0:39:41 GMT
Another bullshit poll. The SNP aren't getting 44%. Someone really needs to get a grip on Scottish polls, they're always wrong. Then the chucking of the numbers through Scotland Votes and pretending that counts as a legitimate projection. I think the actual percentages will be roughly SNP - 40% Con - 30% Lab - 20% LD - 10%
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Post by andrew111 on Dec 6, 2019 8:42:50 GMT
Another bullshit poll. The SNP aren't getting 44%. Someone really needs to get a grip on Scottish polls, they're always wrong. Will you eat your hat if they do?
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Post by afleitch on Dec 6, 2019 9:56:26 GMT
Good poll. Excluding Ipsos Mori as they hadn't polled for ages both Panelbase and YouGov while showing the Brexit Party vote going Tory, has shown an advance for the SNP on their pre-election polls. The direction of travel looks good.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 6, 2019 12:47:11 GMT
Another bullshit poll. The SNP aren't getting 44%. Someone really needs to get a grip on Scottish polls, they're always wrong. Then the chucking of the numbers through Scotland Votes and pretending that counts as a legitimate projection. Doesn't Scotland Votes still work on swing from 2015?
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Post by Deleted on Dec 6, 2019 12:48:15 GMT
Then the chucking of the numbers through Scotland Votes and pretending that counts as a legitimate projection. I think the actual percentages will be roughly SNP - 40% Con - 30% Lab - 20% LD - 10% That looks quite reasonable to me.
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Post by robbienicoll on Dec 6, 2019 12:57:10 GMT
Then the chucking of the numbers through Scotland Votes and pretending that counts as a legitimate projection. Doesn't Scotland Votes still work on swing from 2015? It does, but putting through the Times' figures and assuming Edinburgh South goes Labour as opposed to Conservative gives you the exact seat figures they've published.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 6, 2019 13:07:14 GMT
I think the Tories won't break 30% personally
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Post by afleitch on Dec 6, 2019 13:25:28 GMT
I think the Tories won't break 30% personally They'd have to poll higher than in any poll conducted since the last GE. The SNP on 44% in the two most recent polls is already polling it's highest since the last GE and higher than it did during the last GE campaign too. None of which means anything at the moment due to tactical voting. Most of the talk of tactical voting has been votes for the Tories against the SNP. It's the core of the Tory strategy. Recent local election 2nd preferences haven't really suggested that's happening. Nor do the crosstabs in this poll when it comes to Labour/Lib Dem voters switching. So who knows; maybe there's the potential for tactical voting to work against the Tories.
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Post by andrew111 on Dec 6, 2019 21:08:35 GMT
I think the Tories won't break 30% personally They'd have to poll higher than in any poll conducted since the last GE. The SNP on 44% in the two most recent polls is already polling it's highest since the last GE and higher than it did during the last GE campaign too. None of which means anything at the moment due to tactical voting. Most of the talk of tactical voting has been votes for the Tories against the SNP. It's the core of the Tory strategy. Recent local election 2nd preferences haven't really suggested that's happening. Nor do the crosstabs in this poll when it comes to Labour/Lib Dem voters switching. So who knows; maybe there's the potential for tactical voting to work against the Tories. There must be a fair few voters in Scotland who care more about staying in Europe than Union or Independence .. I have lived in Scotland and I would be one. Surely transfer from LD to Tory will be less than last time? Now I must admit I cannot imagine any circumstance where I would vote Tory so I am probably not the best person to judge!
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Post by thinwhiteduke on Dec 8, 2019 0:22:59 GMT
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Post by Andrew_S on Dec 8, 2019 0:27:26 GMT
This represents a swing of 0.7% from Con to SNP since the last election.
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Post by justin124 on Dec 8, 2019 11:41:35 GMT
The final Panelbase poll in 2017 gave us SNP 41 Con 30 Lab 22 LD 5. Not so very different to the current figures!
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