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Post by Deleted on May 25, 2017 3:26:52 GMT
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Post by Deleted on May 25, 2017 4:43:33 GMT
Greg Gianforte has been charged with a misdemeanor. The maximum penalty is 6 months in prison, but he could (and likely will) get off with a fine.
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Post by Deleted on May 25, 2017 5:02:19 GMT
The bolded part of this dis-endorsement from local newspaper The Missoulian shows how far out the political climate has come.
"And audiotape of the encounter shows the question was followed by a loud crash that a Fox News reporter who was in the room said was caused when Gianforte put both hands around the throat of the reporter, threw him to the ground and then began punching him.
(...) There is no doubt that Gianforte committed an act of terrible judgment that, if it doesn’t land him in jail, also shouldn’t land him in the U.S. House of Representatives. He showed Wednesday night that he lacks the experience, brains and abilities to effectively represent Montana in any elected office.
And in case critics say this is just fake news from the liberal media, let us repeat one fact again: The eyewitness account of Gianforte’s actions came from a Fox News reporter."
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Post by Devil Wincarnate on May 25, 2017 8:57:08 GMT
Gianforte has also claimed that Jacobs assaulted him, which the same witness has said is nonsense.
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Post by Deleted on May 25, 2017 22:43:15 GMT
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Post by Davıd Boothroyd on May 25, 2017 22:55:10 GMT
Unfortunately Montana (vast state that it is) has extensive early voting by post, so most of the votes would have been cast before this incident.
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Post by Deleted on May 26, 2017 3:46:49 GMT
Unfortunately Montana (vast state that it is) has extensive early voting by post, so most of the votes would have been cast before this incident. Yes, that was pointed out above. Its roughly 2/3, but the postal vote in MT is disproportionally Democratic, whereas the day voters are more heavily Republican. Gianforte won pretty clearly. There are other factors at work. Quist hasn't been anti-EPA/pro-mining and has a history of being pro-gun control, even if he walked it back. So not a typical Montana Democrat. Plus he had a lot of bagage. Some Native tribes rely on coal mining and endorsed Gianforte. Then there is the money:
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Post by Deleted on May 26, 2017 5:16:41 GMT
Noticeable that there was a big swing from Trump to Quist among urban working class voters.
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Post by Richard Allen on May 26, 2017 11:55:26 GMT
Excellent result for the Democrats and for Jon Tester, probably better than actually winning the seat. Had Quist won his baggage might have caused the party some difficulty but instead there is a compromised GOP congressman for them to spend 18 months going after. As things stand Tester looks to be heavy favourite for re-election next year and he might well help drag another Democrat over the line in the House contest against a wounded Gianforte.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 8, 2017 23:13:30 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Jun 11, 2017 19:32:48 GMT
Puerto Ricans voting for statehood in record numbers. With 20% of the vote in its: Statehood 97.4% Independence 1.4% Current Status 1.2% DDHQ resultsThe status quo people supporters simply gave up on winning and decided to de facto boycot the referendum.
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Post by Khunanup on Jun 11, 2017 22:49:39 GMT
Puerto Ricans voting for statehood in record numbers. With 20% of the vote in its: Statehood 97.4% Independence 1.4% Current Status 1.2% DDHQ resultsThe status quo people supporters simply gave up on winning and decided to de facto boycot the referendum. Any sign Congress is going to do anything about it or are they just going to ignore them again?
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Post by Richard Allen on Jun 11, 2017 23:00:40 GMT
Puerto Ricans voting for statehood in record numbers. With 20% of the vote in its: Statehood 97.4% Independence 1.4% Current Status 1.2% DDHQ resultsThe status quo people supporters simply gave up on winning and decided to de facto boycot the referendum. Any sign Congress is going to do anything about it or are they just going to ignore them again? I assume that was a rhetorical question?
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Post by Deleted on Jun 11, 2017 23:29:04 GMT
Puerto Ricans voting for statehood in record numbers. With 20% of the vote in its: Statehood 97.4% Independence 1.4% Current Status 1.2% DDHQ resultsThe status quo people supporters simply gave up on winning and decided to de facto boycot the referendum. Any sign Congress is going to do anything about it or are they just going to ignore them again? You need a majority in both chambers of Congress to approve an Enabling Act. Since PR will inevitably be a Democratic stronghold on the federal level the Democrats will thus need either to abolish the filibuster, or get a filibuster proof majority in the Senate. There is no chance of that happening before 2020, but if the Trump presidency provokes a GOP meltdown by then (as well as a better than expected 2018 Senate election) it could happen. "US Const. Article IV Section 3 Clause I
New States may be admitted by the Congress into this Union; but no new States shall be formed or erected within the Jurisdiction of any other State; nor any State be formed by the Junction of two or more States, or parts of States, without the Consent of the Legislatures of the States concerned as well as of the Congress."
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Post by Davıd Boothroyd on Jun 13, 2017 23:51:18 GMT
Looks like Ralph Northam, the Lieutenant Governor, has won the race to be Democratic Party candidate for Governor in Virginia - beating former congressman Tom Periello.
The Republican race is far more interesting - going down to the wire between party establishment candidate Ed Gillespie and Trump supporting insurgent Corey Stewart who has called Gillespie a "cuckservative".
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Post by Deleted on Jun 14, 2017 0:08:44 GMT
The Democratic bench is rather thin and Periello is someone, who in time could have run nationally (future VP..), but he is perhaps a bit too progressive for Virginia, and Ralph Northam has been a well-liked Lieutenant Governor. Hopefully he will reenter Congress in 2018 rather than drop politics.
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Post by Trab on Jun 14, 2017 0:15:06 GMT
Perriello is hardly "too progressive" for Virginia, though he is indeed to the left of most Democratic politicians in the state. His problem is that he was backed by the heavy hitters from outside of Virginia (the Sanders camp, the Obama camp, & part of the Clinton camp), while Northam had locked up the endorsement of the near-entirety of the VDP's political apparatus long before Perriello even suggested that he was going to enter the race.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 14, 2017 0:17:08 GMT
Perriello is hardly "too progressive" for Virginia, though he is indeed to the left of most Democratic politicians in the state. His problem is that he was backed by the heavy hitters from outside of Virginia (the Sanders camp, the Obama camp, & part of the Clinton camp), while Northam had locked up the endorsement of the near-entirety of the VDP's political apparatus long before Perriello even suggested that he was going to enter the race. Endorsements are overrated.
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