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Post by greatkingrat on Nov 16, 2012 20:55:07 GMT
PCCs who are councillors are
Barry Coppinger (Lab, Middlesbrough - Pallister)
Alan Charles (Lab, Derbyshire - Killamarsh)
David Lloyd (Con, Hertfordshire - Bridgewater + Dacorum - Watling)
Matthew Grove (Con, East Riding - Mid Holderness)
Clive Grunshaw (Lab, Lancashire - Fleetwood East)
Richard Davies (Con, Lincolnshire - Grantham North West)
Stephen Bett (Ind, Norfolk - North Coast)
Shaun Wright (Lab, Rotherham - Rawmarsh)
Matthew Ellis (Con, Staffordshire - Lichfield Rural East)
Tim Passmore (Con, Mid Suffolk - Helmingham and Coddenham)
Katy Bourne (Con, Mid Sussex - Cuckfield)
Antony Stansfeld (Con, West Berkshire - Kintbury)
Bob Jones (Lab, Wolverhampton - Blakenhall)
Mark Burns-Williamson (Lab, Wakefield - Castleford Central and Glasshoughton)
Several of them are county councillors who are up next May anyway so there will not be any by-elections there.
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Post by East Anglian Lefty on Nov 16, 2012 20:59:03 GMT
Richard Davies didn't win, so I doubt he'll be causing a by-election.
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Post by andrea on Nov 16, 2012 23:14:01 GMT
PCCs who are councillors are Barry Coppinger (Lab, Middlesbrough - Pallister) Alan Charles (Lab, Derbyshire - Killamarsh) David Lloyd (Con, Hertfordshire - Bridgewater + Dacorum - Watling) Matthew Grove (Con, East Riding - Mid Holderness) Richard Davies (Con, Lincolnshire - Grantham North West)Stephen Bett (Ind, Norfolk - North Coast) Shaun Wright (Lab, Rotherham - Rawmarsh) Matthew Ellis (Con, Staffordshire - Lichfield Rural East) Tim Passmore (Con, Mid Suffolk - Helmingham and Coddenham) Katy Bourne (Con, Mid Sussex - Cuckfield) Antony Stansfeld (Con, West Berkshire - Kintbury) Bob Jones (Lab, Wolverhampton - Blakenhall) Mark Burns-Williamson (Lab, Wakefield - Castleford Central and Glasshoughton) Several of them are county councillors who are up next May anyway so there will not be any by-elections there. Clive Grunshaw (Lab, Lancashire) is county Cllr for Fletwood East. But as you say, his term would expire in May 2013 anyway. |
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Post by marksenior on Nov 17, 2012 17:45:03 GMT
Kent CC and Gravesham byelections are on December 20th
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Post by marksenior on Nov 20, 2012 10:18:17 GMT
Jean Campbell , Labour councillor for Wormholt and White City ward on Hammersmith/Fulham LBC has sadly died .
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Post by ColinJ on Nov 20, 2012 12:13:49 GMT
The case of David Gawn (suspended Labour), Harrow-on-the-Hill ward (Harrow LB) meanders on, but we are much closer to a by-election after yesterday’s events.
Facing charges of attempted theft, he pleaded guilty at Harrow Crown Court to a substitute charge of fraud. No details of the crime were aired at the hearing, but the wording of the charge specifies that between 25 July and 1 August 2011 Gawn posted a £7,000 cheque in the name of victim Dennis O’Brien to a Lloyds TSB bank employee. It is said he “dishonestly and intentionally made a representation which was untrue or misleading.”
Gawn will be sentenced on 20 December.
I am unfamiliar with the law as to what might disqualify Gawn from the Council if he chose not to resign and tried to brazen things out. I assume a custodial sentence would lead to automatic disqualification, but would a “lesser” sentence enable him to hang on?
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Post by Davıd Boothroyd on Nov 20, 2012 12:25:48 GMT
Any sentence of imprisonment, including suspended sentences, of over three months is a disqualification from office. But disqualification only takes place after the end of any period allowed for an appeal.
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Post by AdminSTB on Nov 20, 2012 15:50:53 GMT
Anne Higgins, SNP Cllr for Rutherglen South (South Lanarkshire) has sadly died.
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Post by The Bishop on Nov 20, 2012 16:16:02 GMT
Hmmm, could that be a chance for Labour to take overall control??
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Post by Pete Whitehead on Nov 20, 2012 16:24:38 GMT
Jeez she isn't even cold yet  |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 20, 2012 16:28:29 GMT
It seems to be difficult for some of us to resist the immediate urge to look ahead, even if it is disrespectful to the person who has died.
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Post by The Bishop on Nov 20, 2012 16:38:37 GMT
C'mon Pete - we all do it   |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 20, 2012 17:19:39 GMT
the by election thread for Middlesbrough was put up within a very short time of Stuart Bell's death being confirmed.
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Post by name2remember on Nov 20, 2012 17:31:35 GMT
the by election thread for Middlesbrough was put up within a very short time of Stuart Bell's death being confirmed. Yes, but I it was fitting that a man who in life was an exception to every rule going, so he should be in death |
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Post by East Anglian Lefty on Nov 20, 2012 18:33:48 GMT
I suspect in the case of most by-elections through death none of us active on the forum will have ever have met the late individual. I always feel there's something a little fake about expressions of sorrow where you've never actually met the individual concerned.
To us, if not to their families and friends, it's a change in numbers. A little but cold to immediately speculate, but I'm not sure that pretending a respect we lack the knowledge to feel is necessarily any better.
That said, I'm pretty sure a convention where we only speculate if none of us knew the individual concerned is absolutely unworkable and a custom of immediate speculation doesn't sound wholesome, so I offer no solutions.
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Post by piperdave on Nov 20, 2012 18:57:42 GMT
We could say for example, no comments/speculation for 24 hours after the news has been posted, unless it's a week after the actual death. That doesn't unduly delay us discussing it but gives a nod of respect to a personal tragedy.
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Post by Khunanup on Nov 20, 2012 23:48:17 GMT
It's not about the person though is it? It's about the position so we should not feel uncomfortable because we all know that someone, somewhere will be planning a by-election strategy straight away.
The King is dead etc. and all that.
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Post by The Bishop on Nov 21, 2012 0:11:52 GMT
Exactly.
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Post by East Anglian Lefty on Nov 21, 2012 1:42:35 GMT
We could say for example, no comments/speculation for 24 hours after the news has been posted, unless it's a week after the actual death. That doesn't unduly delay us discussing it but gives a nod of respect to a personal tragedy. But isn't that just as mechanistic? That's not a show of respect, that's an obligatory moment of silence. We shut up for two minutes on November 11th (to pick the extremely obvious example, apologies if this is viewed as a quasi-Godwin) because we either know what it means or know people who did. We don't know the people whose deaths are recorded in these threads and I'm not convinced there's a benefit to pretending sorrow. Sorrow demands knowledge and the pretence of such isn't respect, it's deception. |
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Post by AdminSTB on Nov 21, 2012 5:51:58 GMT
Generally I take the rule on my websites that I post vacancies caused by resignation or disqualification as soon as I'm aware of them, while vacancies caused by death I post once a date has been set for the by-election. To talk about the ward in general, it's pretty safe for Labour though a lot less so than your average Lanarkshire ward. If Labour gained the seat then they would indeed hold an overall majority of 1 on South Lanarkshire Council. It's also home to Lanarkshire's last remaining Lib Dem who, if they have any kind of local by election machine left, would be the main competitors to Labour. SNP came 3rd in May and look unlikely to hold a seat in an AV contest. www.scottishelections.org.uk/scotland/l12/southlanarkshire.php#rutherglensouth |
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