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Post by Deleted on Apr 4, 2017 6:29:51 GMT
Labour did have a plan to really help Blackpool - the megacasino. It got squashed due to fairly misplaced moral objections. (BTW I grew up in Scarborough so I do know about seaside resorts) I thought Manchester won the right to host it? The site was right next to the current Etihad Stadium. It was a Blair policy that was quashed quickly by Gordon Brown. Quite the theme. Flashman succeeded by the offspring of a religious minister. |
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Post by john07 on Apr 4, 2017 11:27:33 GMT
I thought Manchester won the right to host it? The site was right next to the current Etihad Stadium. It was a Blair policy that was quashed quickly by Gordon Brown. Quite the theme. Flashman succeeded by the offspring of a religious minister. There is an impression of the casino. The spirals for the Football Stadium can be seen to the left of the picture just next to the 'B in the Bang' public sculpture (now melted down):  |
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Post by yellowperil on Apr 4, 2017 11:57:30 GMT
Quite the theme. Flashman succeeded by the offspring of a religious minister. There is an impression of the casino. The spirals for the Football Stadium can be seen to the left of the picture just next to the 'B in the Bang' public sculpture (now melted down): Is your left wing our right wing? |
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Post by mboy on Apr 6, 2017 15:58:46 GMT
Its not a general panacea - but if the Blackpool one was unique and could act as a hub then it could have helped there, specifically. As we do have strong regulation, it could have worked, and I haven't seen anything taking its place on my last visit... Leaving aside moral considerations, do large capital projects often lead to people being priced out of communities, do they always benefit the people at the bottom of the heap ? Housing costs are a function of how desirable the area is to live in. If you make a place nicer it is inevitable that housing costs will rise, because obviously more people will want to live there. That's an issue that is worth thinking about. Even when the company is based in London it's worth bearing in mind that it means all profits and big earners based in head-office get sent to the capital to trickle down into that economy rather than the local economy. This is the leeching effect of having a mega-city like London in the country... But anyway, what about predictions for today's elections???  |
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Post by hedgehog on Apr 6, 2017 16:51:53 GMT
Leaving aside moral considerations, do large capital projects often lead to people being priced out of communities, do they always benefit the people at the bottom of the heap ? Housing costs are a function of how desirable the area is to live in. If you make a place nicer it is inevitable that housing costs will rise, because obviously more people will want to live there. That's an issue that is worth thinking about. Even when the company is based in London it's worth bearing in mind that it means all profits and big earners based in head-office get sent to the capital to trickle down into that economy rather than the local economy. This is the leeching effect of having a mega-city like London in the country... But anyway, what about predictions for today's elections??? Improving an areas is great, however when gentrification takes place, what do we see rents rise, people who have lived in an areas all their lives forced out, speculators profit. Tonights byelections Aylesbury Vale, Lib Dem hold Bath & NE Somerset, close between Lib Dem and Green Calderdale, Cons too far ahead so Cons hold Tendering, Cons gain from UKIP |
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Post by Tony Otim on Apr 6, 2017 17:02:01 GMT
Aylesbury Vale would be LD gain from UKIP not a hold if they do win it.
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Post by yellowperil on Apr 6, 2017 18:19:52 GMT
All 11 entrants in the prediction thread agree the overall results on all 4 contests, so 1 Tory hold and 1~ gain, I LibDem hold and 1 gain, 2 ukip losses -so that must be right, don't you think? |
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Post by John Chanin on Apr 6, 2017 18:25:05 GMT
Herding!
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Post by ideal4radio on Apr 6, 2017 20:00:27 GMT
All 11 entrants in the prediction thread agree the overall results on all 4 contests, so 1 Tory hold and 1~ gain, I LibDem hold and 1 gain, 2 ukip losses -so that must be right, don't you think? Nonsense, all 4 Byelections will be won by a revived Labour party under the leadership of Comrade Jeremy. It is becoming clear to the lumpen proletariat, that they will only truly be free of their chains when they cast aside their... Sorry, I've just been reading some comments on " Labour List "  |
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Post by ricmk on Apr 6, 2017 20:30:05 GMT
I spent the afternoon in sunny Elmhurst ward in Aylesbury yesterday. Lib Dems hopeful, main challenge does seem to be from UKIP rather than the Tories. Little evidence of the election, if I hadn't been there for political reasons I wouldn't have guessed there was an election on. The Lib Dem team seemed very well organised. Of course if it's a Lib Dem win I'll claim the credit, if not then I clearly wasn't there for long enough!
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Post by Robert Waller on Apr 6, 2017 21:46:39 GMT
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Post by marksenior on Apr 6, 2017 22:20:01 GMT
Tendring Con gain from UKIP
Con 371
UKIP 174
Lab 116
LDem 99
Green 15
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Post by Georg Ebner on Apr 6, 2017 22:22:31 GMT
Andrew T. is obviously firm even in PreHistory! |
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Post by Georg Ebner on Apr 6, 2017 22:23:46 GMT
Tendring Con gain from UKIP Con 371 UKIP 174 Lab 116 LDem 99 Green 15 Con close to 50%. |
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Post by finsobruce on Apr 6, 2017 22:26:42 GMT
All 11 entrants in the prediction thread agree the overall results on all 4 contests, so 1 Tory hold and 1~ gain, I LibDem hold and 1 gain, 2 ukip losses -so that must be right, don't you think? Nonsense, all 4 Byelections will be won by a revived Labour party under the leadership of Comrade Jeremy. It is becoming clear to the lumpen proletariat, that they will only truly be free of their chains when they cast aside their... Sorry, I've just been reading some comments on " Labour List " Never a good idea. |
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Post by Georg Ebner on Apr 6, 2017 22:28:14 GMT
Tendring:
775 votes
47.87% Con
22.45% UKIP
14.97% Lab
12.77% LD
01.94% GP
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Post by marksenior on Apr 6, 2017 22:29:34 GMT
Calderdale
Con 1483
LDem 420
Lab 407
Green 150
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Post by Georg Ebner on Apr 6, 2017 22:32:46 GMT
CalderDale
2.460 votes
60.28% Con
17.07% LD
16.54% Lab
06.10% GP
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Post by maxque on Apr 6, 2017 22:34:48 GMT
Calderdale Con 1483 LDem 420 Lab 407 Green 150 Con 60.3% (-4.3) LD 17.1% (+6.8) Lab 16.5% (-0.5) Grn 6.1% (-2.0) |
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Post by maxque on Apr 6, 2017 22:36:46 GMT
Tendring: 775 votes 47.87% Con 22.45% UKIP 14.97% Lab 12.77% LD 01.94% GP Con +12.7 UKIP -16.3 Lab -1.0 |
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