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Post by greenchristian on Feb 12, 2017 19:56:38 GMT
It's an odd-looking picture. They're holding up leaflets, as if they'd been delivering them, but they're wearing rosettes. Why would that make it a "but"? Because rosettes are what you wear when you are looking to make it absolutely clear to voters that you are there on behalf of your political party, which is entirely pointless when leafleting because your job is to get as many leaflets through letterboxes as possible, as fast as possible. Your job when leafleting is not to talk to the voters.
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Post by gwynthegriff on Feb 12, 2017 20:07:14 GMT
That's a shame, it's good to learn canvassing with an experienced group and byelections are fun. Some handy tips. First, never ever close a conversation with any voter - you will lose their vote if they don't stop the conversation. Second bring a watch so that you always wait at least ten minutes on a every doorstep when you don't get an immediate answer as this gives the frail and elderly a chance to get to the door. And lastly, always try really hard to persuade the die hard Conservative voters to your side as they are worth twice as much, one vote more for your side and one vote less for theirs. You are, of course, welcome. Thank you very much. Interesting about ending a conversation, when I canvas the estate down the road from me people always want to talk and talk. If I didn't end it I'd be there for hours 😆, I only came to check the kipper presence and reasure the leave voters Labour is committed to Brexit mate, didn't want to talk about the dog shit on the pavement or flipin trump 😂. I will take your advice. I could offer you a cautionary tale on that (google Sam Orwell) but it's not my role to assist the Labour Party in refining their canvassing technique.
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Post by gwynthegriff on Feb 12, 2017 20:12:40 GMT
Why would that make it a "but"? Because rosettes are what you wear when you are looking to make it absolutely clear to voters that you are there on behalf of your political party, which is entirely pointless when leafleting because your job is to get as many leaflets through letterboxes as possible, as fast as possible. Your job when leafleting is not to talk to the voters. How big are your rosettes if they slow you down when leafleting?
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Post by Crimson King on Feb 12, 2017 20:13:18 GMT
Why would that make it a "but"? Because rosettes are what you wear when you are looking to make it absolutely clear to voters that you are there on behalf of your political party, which is entirely pointless when leafleting because your job is to get as many leaflets through letterboxes as possible, as fast as possible. Your job when leafleting is not to talk to the voters. I think during an election campaign having lots of people on the streets identifying as supporters (even if only while delivering leaflets) is probably a good thing
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Post by Davıd Boothroyd on Feb 12, 2017 20:15:46 GMT
How big are your rosettes if they slow you down when leafleting? As big as Sir Peter Tapsell's?
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Post by gwynthegriff on Feb 12, 2017 20:16:35 GMT
Why would that make it a "but"? Because rosettes are what you wear when you are looking to make it absolutely clear to voters that you are there on behalf of your political party, which is entirely pointless when leafleting because your job is to get as many leaflets through letterboxes as possible, as fast as possible. Your job when leafleting is not to talk to the voters. Neither is it my role to enhance Green Party electioneering, but ... If somebody recognises what party you're from and speak it means one of three things: 1. They want to abuse you - in which case you shrug and move on; 2. They want to express support - in which case you encourage them to join/ volunteer to leaflet/ put up a poster etc; 3. They want to ask a question - in which case you answer nicely, or refer them to someone who can. Where's the harm in any of that?
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Post by Deleted on Feb 12, 2017 20:16:41 GMT
How big are your rosettes if they slow you down when leafleting? As big as Sir Peter Tapsell's? "Best of Breed"
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Post by Adam in Stroud on Feb 12, 2017 20:16:50 GMT
Because rosettes are what you wear when you are looking to make it absolutely clear to voters that you are there on behalf of your political party, which is entirely pointless when leafleting because your job is to get as many leaflets through letterboxes as possible, as fast as possible. Your job when leafleting is not to talk to the voters. I think during an election campaign having lots of people on the streets identifying as supporters (even if only while delivering leaflets) is probably a good thing Quite. People walking by see you even if they aren't going to get a leaflet personally. And it doesn't require you to talk to them at all, though a cheery "good morning" as you walk by won't do any harm either.
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Post by Devil Wincarnate on Feb 12, 2017 20:33:50 GMT
Has anyone else heard these stories that Troughton (and Snell in Stoke) have been refusing interviews by Channel Four News? Any truth or reason?
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Post by johnr on Feb 12, 2017 21:02:49 GMT
Has anyone else heard these stories that Troughton (and Snell in Stoke) have been refusing interviews by Channel Four News? Any truth or reason? Well, I had heard Crick claim that he had been refused an interview in Copeland, but since Gillian was on the regional BBC Sunday politics programme, it must be just him.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 12, 2017 21:36:46 GMT
Has anyone else heard these stories that Troughton (and Snell in Stoke) have been refusing interviews by Channel Four News? Any truth or reason? They do not have time to sit around chatting with the bourgeoisie whom will smear and twist their words in anyway. They are out talking to the WORKERS whom they humbly wish to stand up for against Fascism and EVIL TORIES! You are SO cute!
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Post by Rural Radical on Feb 12, 2017 23:43:31 GMT
Another magazine which doesn't, at first glance, look political.. (See "Potter's Wheel" in the Stoke thread....) A Young Michael Gove there on the Right
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Post by Richard Allen on Feb 12, 2017 23:57:59 GMT
Has anyone else heard these stories that Troughton (and Snell in Stoke) have been refusing interviews by Channel Four News? Any truth or reason? They do not have time to sit around chatting with the bourgeoisie whom will smear and twist their words in anyway. They are out talking to the WORKERS whom they humbly wish to stand up for against Fascism and EVIL TORIES! Just in case there was any doubt this is surely proof that @benjl is an anti-Labour troll.
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Post by Adam in Stroud on Feb 13, 2017 0:06:22 GMT
They do not have time to sit around chatting with the bourgeoisie whom will smear and twist their words in anyway. They are out talking to the WORKERS whom they humbly wish to stand up for against Fascism and EVIL TORIES! Just in case there was any doubt this is surely proof that @benjl is an anti-Labour troll. I rather think that it is evidence that he has a sense of humour and is capable of laughing at himself.
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Post by Richard Allen on Feb 13, 2017 0:10:02 GMT
Just in case there was any doubt this is surely proof that @benjl is an anti-Labour troll. I am not a troll, I am a proud member of the Labour party, it was a self deprecating joke. Yes I know, my comment was also a joke.
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Post by Arthur Figgis on Feb 13, 2017 0:25:03 GMT
With the current state of the Labour Party, it can be hard to differentiate between reality and parody.
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Post by carlton43 on Feb 13, 2017 12:55:43 GMT
There is very little information filtering back on this contest. With the Forum members attending for the campaign I would have expected more feedback? I suppose it is considered too sensitive to discuss? Yet what disclosure here would really affect anything in the result? Nothing at all is my guess! I have not altered my original 2.5-5.0% Conservative vote and if anything feel a little more secure in that projection? I am surprised that there has been virtually no change at all in those early votes. By now there must be a real feel for how this is going? Yet nothing here!
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Post by iainbhx on Feb 13, 2017 19:01:56 GMT
I think we will scrape it because of the NHS crisis (candidate is an GP as well) Your candidate is NOT A GP, she is a former hospital doctor who was an ambulance driver for St Johns Ambulance. She is no longer registered as a medical practictioner with the BMA.
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Post by iainbhx on Feb 13, 2017 19:56:37 GMT
Your candidate is NOT A GP, she is a former hospital doctor who was an ambulance driver for St Johns Ambulance. She is no longer registered as a medical practictioner with the BMA. tomato, tomato its all in the health sector. It really isn't. You go around calling her a doctor much more and the GMC will be down on you like a ton of bricks.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 13, 2017 20:06:15 GMT
tomato, tomato its all in the health sector. It really isn't. You go around calling her a doctor much more and the GMC will be down on you like a ton of bricks. How so? Presumably "doctor" denotes her educational level and not her current profession (besides aren't most people called "doctors" just BMBS anyway?).
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