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Post by Davıd Boothroyd on Jan 10, 2017 10:08:18 GMT
Interesting straw in the wind - the NEC panel for the byelection comprises:
Jon Trickett (Corbynite) Jenny Formby of Unite (Corbynite) Christine Shawcroft (ultra-Corbynite) Glenis Willmott MEP (mainstream Labour)
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Post by Deleted on Jan 10, 2017 10:20:18 GMT
Interesting straw in the wind - the NEC panel for the byelection comprises: Jon Trickett (Corbynite) Jenny Formby of Unite (Corbynite) Christine Shawcroft (ultra-Corbynite)Glenis Willmott MEP (mainstream Labour) Pardon my ignorance, but are "ultra-Corbynites" a recognised "thing"? How do they out-Corbyn the Dear Leader?
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Post by neilm on Jan 10, 2017 10:27:31 GMT
Interesting straw in the wind - the NEC panel for the byelection comprises: Jon Trickett (Corbynite) Jenny Formby of Unite (Corbynite) Christine Shawcroft (ultra-Corbynite)Glenis Willmott MEP (mainstream Labour) Pardon my ignorance, but are "ultra-Corbynites" a recognised "thing"? How do they out-Corbyn the Dear Leader? Maybe they're even more loyal to Corbyn than The Bishop is?
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Post by The Bishop on Jan 10, 2017 11:32:04 GMT
Pardon my ignorance, but are "ultra-Corbynites" a recognised "thing"? How do they out-Corbyn the Dear Leader? Maybe they're even more loyal to Corbyn than The Bishop is? Grow up. (that applies to those who "liked" this childish post as well)
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Post by Deleted on Jan 10, 2017 12:14:58 GMT
Interesting straw in the wind - the NEC panel for the byelection comprises: Jon Trickett (Corbynite) Jenny Formby of Unite (Corbynite) Christine Shawcroft (ultra-Corbynite) Glenis Willmott MEP (mainstream Labour) "Formby of Unite" sounds like a terrible peerage.
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Post by Sharon on Jan 10, 2017 13:39:08 GMT
Pardon my ignorance, but are "ultra-Corbynites" a recognised "thing"? How do they out-Corbyn the Dear Leader? You could probably describe Formby as an ultra-Corbynite too. Have to agree.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 10, 2017 21:15:24 GMT
Interesting straw in the wind - the NEC panel for the byelection comprises: Jon Trickett (Corbynite) Jenny Formby of Unite (Corbynite) Christine Shawcroft (ultra-Corbynite)Glenis Willmott MEP (mainstream Labour) Pardon my ignorance, but are "ultra-Corbynites" a recognised "thing"? How do they out-Corbyn the Dear Leader? The dear Leader is an innocent, a child, and the Ultra Corbynites have a duty of care to ensure he does not stray of the path Righteous Leftinesh and it is to this extent the Party has declared war on the English Premier League by introducing a maximum wage.
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Post by Merseymike on Jan 10, 2017 21:17:56 GMT
'Mainstream Labour" = right wing fringe.
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Post by No Offence Alan on Jan 10, 2017 21:24:53 GMT
Pardon my ignorance, but are "ultra-Corbynites" a recognised "thing"? How do they out-Corbyn the Dear Leader? Maybe they're even more loyal to Corbyn than The Bishop is? To be fair, I think The Bishop is loyal to the leader of the Labour party, whoever it is. (so perhaps Vicar of Bray might be a more appropriate nom-de-plume?)
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Post by Davıd Boothroyd on Jan 10, 2017 21:30:15 GMT
'Mainstream Labour" = right wing fringe. You are aware that Glenis Willmott is leader of the EPLP?
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Post by Merseymike on Jan 10, 2017 21:35:36 GMT
'Mainstream Labour" = right wing fringe. You are aware that Glenis Willmott is leader of the EPLP? Not for much longer
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Post by Davıd Boothroyd on Jan 10, 2017 21:46:21 GMT
That must be about the most pathetic response you've ever come up with.
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Post by Merseymike on Jan 10, 2017 22:01:56 GMT
That must be about the most pathetic response you've ever come up with. Its purely factual, as we are leaving the EU, so she won;t be in that post for much longer, because that post will not exist
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Post by Davıd Boothroyd on Jan 10, 2017 22:16:14 GMT
At least two years.
Given you're not able to defend your accusation that Glenis Willmott is on the right-wing fringe, how about withdrawing it?
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Post by neilm on Jan 10, 2017 22:22:00 GMT
'Mainstream Labour" = right wing fringe. This is a fair comment: given that well over half of Labour's members back Corbyn, it is unrealistic to suggest that those opposed to him are the mainstream.
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Post by Merseymike on Jan 10, 2017 22:26:20 GMT
At least two years. Given you're not able to defend your accusation that Glenis Willmott is on the right-wing fringe, how about withdrawing it? Are you really as humourless as you appear? I will do so if you change your equally inaccurate descriptions. Left wing and right wing are perfectly adequate. Right wing is not 'mainstream', as opposed to 'Corbynite'. You may not have noticed but we are the majority. Otherwise, no, I won't.
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Post by Davıd Boothroyd on Jan 10, 2017 22:33:50 GMT
There's a major difference between someone on the left-wing of the party, like say Jon Cruddas, or Owen Smith, and the Corbynite wing. So simply saying left-wing isn't enough.
I'd be wary of that line "we are the majority so we define truth". Life doesn't work like that.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 10, 2017 22:37:50 GMT
*asks Vue to send all their popcorn to this thread*
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Post by neilm on Jan 10, 2017 22:38:31 GMT
There's a major difference between someone on the left-wing of the party, like say Jon Cruddas, or Owen Smith, and the Corbynite wing. So simply saying left-wing isn't enough. I'd be wary of that line "we are the majority so we define truth". Life doesn't work like that. Would you say that the majority is on the left (in Labour Party terms), regardless of actually how left wing they are so those on the the right aren't the mainstream? This is a genuine question by the way.
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Post by East Anglian Lefty on Jan 10, 2017 22:38:53 GMT
'Mainstream Labour" = right wing fringe. This is a fair comment: given that well over half of Labour's members back Corbyn, it is unrealistic to suggest that those opposed to him are the mainstream. It's not sensible to assume that Corbyn's supporters are the same thing as 'the left'. The picture is considerably less coherent than that. In any case, the concerning thing about that committee isn't the factional balance. It's that Shawcroft has finally made it on to the Org Sub committee. I'd always thought it was an unwritten rule she wasn't allowed anywhere near it.
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