Sharon
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Post by Sharon on Dec 9, 2016 13:41:43 GMT
Given the level of political awareness of this demographic, some have re-tweeted a view with which they agreed or shared it on Facebook, whilst signing a petition on Fracking offered them by a friend, whom they'd quite like to ask out, but are scared to death, because a refusal might cause them to retreat to a " Safe- Space ", and get them reported to the authorities. That sounds depressingly familiar.  Have to agree. My polling district which has the largest university population in it this May, was the PD with the highest turnout (and my best PD too). So, you are privy to the results down to polling district level for Southampton City Council (or at least for Swaythling) this year? Cool! From the sampling that was done, yes. |
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Sharon
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Post by Sharon on Dec 9, 2016 13:44:33 GMT
Well, the alternative would be splitting the university. There is enough students living in campus to almost make a 3-seater by themselves. That's right. Splitting the campus would be somewhat arbitrary and it's as legitimate a 'community' as any other. You could have put a chunk of Lancaster City proper with it but it would be a fairly small chunk and that area in turn could claim to have been severed from its natural community (much though it would likely also have been full of students). Both Southampton & Solent unis have quite a few Halls of Residences in our City. The Solent Halls are all in Bargate ward. The Southampton Halls are spread across various wards: Bargate, Bevois, Portswood, Swaythling & Bassett. |
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Post by marksenior on Dec 9, 2016 14:19:21 GMT
Maldon result Ind Gain from Con
Ind 279 Con 172 UKIP 114 Green 69 BNP 51 Lab 47
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The Bishop
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Post by The Bishop on Dec 9, 2016 14:21:57 GMT
Though of course the BNP didn't describe themselves as that on the ballot paper.
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Post by middleenglander on Dec 9, 2016 14:34:52 GMT
Maldon result Ind Gain from Con Ind 279 Con 172 UKIP 114 Green 69 BNP 51 Lab 47 Did they have to await low tide before announcing the result? |
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Post by middleenglander on Dec 9, 2016 15:53:37 GMT
Lancaster, University & Scotforth Rural - Labour hold
| Party | 2016 votes | 2016 share | since 2015 "top" | since 2015 "average" | Labour | 98 | 34.9% | -0.5% | -1.0% | Green | 79 | 28.1% | -4.4% | -3.8% | Conservative | 68 | 24.2% | +0.5% | -1.5% | Liberal Democrat | 36 | 12.8% | +4.4% | +6.3% | Total votes | 281 |
| 16% | 19% |
Swing Green to Labour ~2% / 1½% since 2015
Council now 30 Labour, 18 Conservative, 8 Green, 2 Residents, 2 Independent
Maldon, Maldon West - Independent gain from Conservative
| Party | 2016 votes | 2016 share | since 2015 "top" | since 2015 "average" | since 2011 "top" | since 2011 "average" | | Independent | 279 | 38.1% | from nowhere | from nowhere | from nowhere | from nowhere | Conservative | 172 | 23.5% | -6.4% | -5.3% | -14.8% | -15.2% | UKIP | 114 | 15.5% | from nowhere | from nowhere | from nowhere | from nowhere | Green | 69 | 9.4% | -10.0% | -10.3% | -3.1% | -4.5% | "BNP" * | 51 | 7.0% | from nowhere | from nowhere | from nowhere | from nowhere | Labour | 47 | 6.4% | from nowhere | from nowhere | from nowhere | from nowhere | Independent Heard
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| -10.4% | -10.7% | Total votes |
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| 29% | 29% | 50% | 55% |
* contested seat as Fighting Unsustainable Housing Because We Care Swing, if meaningful, notional Independent to Conservative 3% / 4% since 2015 but notional Conservative to Independent 7% / 8% since 2011
Council now 26 Conservative, 3 Independent, 1 Independent Conservative, 1 UKIP
Newcastle-under-Lyme - Independent gain from Labour sitting as Independent| Party | 2016 votes | 2016 share | since 2015 | since 2014 | since 2012 B | since 2011 | since 2010 | | Independent * | 458 | 64.8% | from nowhere | from nowhere | from nowhere | from nowhere | from nowhere | Conservative | 112 | 15.8% | -11.0% | -7.1% | -6.9% | -15.8% | -16.5% | Liberal Democrat | 75 | 10.6% | +6.9% | from nowhere | -37.1% | -15.4% | -14.8% | Labour | 62 | 8.8% | -10.5% | -35.5% | -17.7% | -25.6% | -27.3% | Independent |
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| -3.1% | -7.8% |
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| -24.9% | -3.2% | -8.0% | -6.3% | Total votes | 707 |
| 30% | 57% | 55% | 50% | 30% |
* Winning Independent partner of Independent Councillor elected in 2015
Swing, if meaningful, notional Conservative to Independent ~14% since 2015 Council now 28 Labour, 21 Conservative, 4 Borough Independents, 3 Liberal Democrats, 2 UKIP, 2 Newcastle Independent
Telford & Wrekin, Horsehay & Lightmoor - Labour gain from Conservative| Party | 2016 votes | 2016 share | since 2015 "top" | since 2015 "average" | since 2011 "top" | since 2011 "average" | | Labour | 358 | 46.3% | +20.9% | +20.7% | +4.9% | +4.0% | Conservative | 292 | 37.3% | -4.3% | -2.0% | -6.3% | -8.2% | UKIP | 124 | 16.0% | -1.5% | -2.4% | from nowhere | from nowhere | Liberal Democrat |
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| 25% | 28% | 66% | 70% |
Swing Conservative to Labour ~12½% / 11¼% since 2015 and ~5½% / 6% since 2011
Council now 28 Labour, 21 Conservative, 3 Liberal Democrat, 2 Independent
Tonbridge & Malling, Trench - Conservative hold | Party | 2016 votes | 2016 share | since 2015 "top" | since 2015 "average" | | Conservative | 603 | 61.2% | +17.4% | +18.2% | Labour | 204 | 20.7% | +1.1% | +1.5% | UKIP | 178 | 18.1% | -0.4% | -0.9% | Green |
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| -9.5% | -9.7% | Liberal Democrat |
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| -8.7% | -9.0% | Total votes | 985 |
| 39% | 40% |
Swing Labour to Conservative ~8¼% since 2015 Council now 48 Conservative, 4 Liberal Democrat, 2 Independent
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Sibboleth
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Post by Sibboleth on Dec 9, 2016 15:55:11 GMT
Isn't the issue that in a very small polling district a candidate could take 100% of the vote, thus revealing how individuals voted? If results in a particular village are sufficiently lopsided then everyone knows how everyone else voted anyway... |
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ColinJ
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Post by ColinJ on Dec 9, 2016 16:43:27 GMT
University and Scotforth Rural, Lancaster Lab 98 (34.9%; -0.5) Grn 79 (28.1%; -4.4) Con 68 (24.2%; +0.5) LD 36 (12.8%; +4.4) No wonder it didn't take long to count. When was the last time someone won a principal local authority seat with less than 100 votes? A very good question, and I immediately wondered about autumn 1945 in the heavily bomb-damaged areas of central London. But the only example I could find was the St. Thomas ward in Bermondsey, where the three Municipal Reform candidates were elected with 58, 56 and 54 votes; the Labour candidates received 47, 40 and 39. The electorate in St. Thomas ward had fallen to only 198 electors, one-third of the pre-war figure. |
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Sibboleth
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Post by Sibboleth on Dec 9, 2016 18:00:14 GMT
Well it happened in Deiniol ward in Bangor in 2012, 2008 and 2004.
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Post by lbarnes on Dec 9, 2016 18:11:43 GMT
Isn't the issue that in a very small polling district a candidate could take 100% of the vote, thus revealing how individuals voted? If results in a particular village are sufficiently lopsided then everyone knows how everyone else voted anyway... I've heard of it happening. Everyone who witnessed the count had to sign the Official Secrets Act and not disclose the outcome. |
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Sibboleth
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Post by Sibboleth on Dec 9, 2016 18:13:40 GMT
hahahaha
absurd
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Post by evergreenadam on Dec 9, 2016 18:23:16 GMT
Thought Horsehay & Lightmoor would be close but didn't expect a gain. Very pleasant surprise. Does the by-election result mean that Labour has gained control of the Council from NOC? |
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Sibboleth
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Post by Sibboleth on Dec 9, 2016 18:50:28 GMT
Thought Horsehay & Lightmoor would be close but didn't expect a gain. Very pleasant surprise. Does the by-election result mean that Labour has gained control of the Council from NOC? Yes. |
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Post by tonygreaves on Dec 10, 2016 17:41:07 GMT
I once had a polling district with 4 voters in a county election (due to district ward boundary changes that had not yet translated through to county division changes. There was 100% turnout and all four votes were for the same candidate. It's almost 40 years since but I suppose it would be illegal to reveal any more!
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Post by gwynthegriff on Dec 10, 2016 17:47:27 GMT
Madeley, Newcastle-under-Lyme Ind 458 (64.8%; +17.7 on his partner) Con 112 (15.8%; -11.1) LD 75 (10.6%; +8.6) Lab 62 (8.8%; -10.4) Worth pointing out that the changes are on 2015 (i.e. GE day). Does anybody have changes on 2013/14 or whenever it was? EDIT: Changes on 2014 are: Ind +64.8 - no Ind in 2014! Con -7.2% LD +10.6 - no LD in 2014, despite it being a LD 'defence' in 2014 [the Lab cand was ex-LD] Lab -35.5 UKIP -24.9 - no cand in 2016 Green - 7.8 - no cand in 2016 Is it something in the water in N Staffs? |
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Post by gwynthegriff on Dec 10, 2016 17:58:53 GMT
I once had a polling district with 4 voters in a county election (due to district ward boundary changes that had not yet translated through to county division changes. There was 100% turnout and all four votes were for the same candidate. It's almost 40 years since but I suppose it would be illegal to reveal any more! I was going to mention that story, but couldn't remember where I'd heard it. I can now!  |
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Post by East Anglian Lefty on Dec 11, 2016 13:49:51 GMT
Isn't the issue that in a very small polling district a candidate could take 100% of the vote, thus revealing how individuals voted? Perhaps a allowing the display of results by principal authority wards (as opposed to polling districts) would be an acceptable compromise? Though come to think of it, whilst it would be nice for psephelogical purposes to gauge how individual wards voted in elections to the Westminster and/or devolved parliaments, I suppose a good reason for not disclosing such information would be the potential for it to be abused to facilitate gerrymandering. Sure, local council election results should also give an idea of how an area is likely to vote, but the different factors that matter in local election (e.g. turnout, local issues, independents...) will likely make it a bit harder to effectively determine the political leanings of a particular area. If you need the official results, you don't have know the area well enough to gerrymander it. |
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Post by andrewteale on Dec 11, 2016 13:53:31 GMT
No wonder it didn't take long to count. When was the last time someone won a principal local authority seat with less than 100 votes? A very good question, and I immediately wondered about autumn 1945 in the heavily bomb-damaged areas of central London. But the only example I could find was the St. Thomas ward in Bermondsey, where the three Municipal Reform candidates were elected with 58, 56 and 54 votes; the Labour candidates received 47, 40 and 39. The electorate in St. Thomas ward had fallen to only 198 electors, one-third of the pre-war figure. This one will take some beating: Milton Keynes council Wolverton Stacey Bushes ward, 1976 F Holroyd (Lab) 31 W Stanton (C) 18 The electorate was 84; the ward had been drawn in anticipation of future development which hadn't yet got going. Two years later the electorate was up to 1,424. |
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Post by carlton43 on Dec 11, 2016 15:26:16 GMT
Madeley, Newcastle-under-Lyme Ind 458 (64.8%; +17.7 on his partner) Con 112 (15.8%; -11.1) LD 75 (10.6%; +8.6) Lab 62 (8.8%; -10.4) Worth pointing out that the changes are on 2015 (i.e. GE day). Does anybody have changes on 2013/14 or whenever it was? EDIT: Changes on 2014 are: Ind +64.8 - no Ind in 2014! Con -7.2% LD +10.6 - no LD in 2014, despite it being a LD 'defence' in 2014 [the Lab cand was ex-LD] Lab -35.5 UKIP -24.9 - no cand in 2016 Green - 7.8 - no cand in 2016 Is it something in the water in N Staffs? Is it more that they are concerned with the person and not the party? |
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Post by gwynthegriff on Dec 11, 2016 18:27:36 GMT
Worth pointing out that the changes are on 2015 (i.e. GE day). Does anybody have changes on 2013/14 or whenever it was? EDIT: Changes on 2014 are: Ind +64.8 - no Ind in 2014! Con -7.2% LD +10.6 - no LD in 2014, despite it being a LD 'defence' in 2014 [the Lab cand was ex-LD] Lab -35.5 UKIP -24.9 - no cand in 2016 Green - 7.8 - no cand in 2016 Is it something in the water in N Staffs? Is it more that they are concerned with the person and not the party? Oh indeed. Not least when one guy was elected under three different labels I believe. |
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