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Post by Defenestrated Fipplebox on Jun 29, 2021 11:37:44 GMT
Given the fact that absolutely everybody in the entire universe has always known that Taumatawhakatangihangakoauauotamateaturipukakapikimaungahoronukupokaiwhenuakitanatahu is the longest place name in the world, it is completely inaccurate for you to use the words "apparently" and "as often thought". Isn't the "official" name for Bangkok even longer?
Krung Thep Mahanakhon Amon Rattanakosin Mahinthara Ayuthaya Mahadilok Phop Noppharat Ratchathani Burirom Udomratchaniwet Mahasathan Amon Piman Awatan Sathit Sakkathattiya Witsanukam Prasit Bangkok
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Post by Chris from Brum on Jun 29, 2021 11:48:04 GMT
Given the fact that absolutely everybody in the entire universe has always known that Taumatawhakatangihangakoauauotamateaturipukakapikimaungahoronukupokaiwhenuakitanatahu is the longest place name in the world, it is completely inaccurate for you to use the words "apparently" and "as often thought". Isn't the "official" name for Bangkok even longer? Yes, but not a single word ^^^^^ |
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Post by michael2019 on Jun 29, 2021 12:20:10 GMT
Particularly over the longest place name which apparently is: Taumatawhakatangihangakoauauotamateaturipukakapikimaungahoronukupokaiwhenuakitanatahu in New Zealand and not as often thought: Llanfairpwllgwyngyllgogerychwyrndrobwllllantysiliogogogoch in Wales Given the fact that absolutely everybody in the entire universe has always known that Taumatawhakatangihangakoauauotamateaturipukakapikimaungahoronukupokaiwhenuakitanatahu is the longest place name in the world, it is completely inaccurate for you to use the words "apparently" and "as often thought". May be clever clogs  But I was ignorant of this fact until I watched Dave Gorman's programme - as were all the other people taking part in his pub quiz and the quiz master and I was using it in that context and like them I thought it was Llanfairpwllgwyngyllgogerychwyrndrobwllllantysiliogogogoch (even if I didn't know how to spell it!) My guess is that if you asked 100 people in the street what is the longest place name in the world - 98 would reply "oh isn't it that place in Wales" - unless you were yougov in which case you would get some spurious statistic ! But I stand correct that I should have not used the word "apparently" and replaced "often" with "occasionally" - consider my hand slapped! But try asking people in the street who "who are the few men, after Mother Theresa, who could be eligible to write the ten commandments?" |
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Post by stash on Jul 6, 2021 12:10:50 GMT
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Post by neilm on Jul 6, 2021 15:00:13 GMT
Sinn Fein seem to have a lot of churn. Do they have some sort of internal deal where you do x years and step down for person y? Like that German party in the European Parliament? |
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Post by stb12 on Jul 6, 2021 16:40:57 GMT
Sinn Fein seem to have a lot of churn. Do they have some sort of internal deal where you do x years and step down for person y? Like that German party in the European Parliament? Remember Sinn Fein still have dodgy army type councils that make decisions in secret, however much they try to hide it |
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Post by obsie on Jul 6, 2021 16:43:06 GMT
Sinn Fein seem to have a lot of churn. Do they have some sort of internal deal where you do x years and step down for person y? Like that German party in the European Parliament? Lynch had been there for a long time; co-option allows them to slot new candidates in before an election in order to accustomize themselves rather than present the electorate with an entirely new face. There's also an issue of trying to rejuvenate an Assembly team that is viewed as lacklustre in comparison with their southern bench; whether it works remains to be seen - certainly the likes of Órfhlaith Begley wouldn't inspire anyone but still gets the "green dog" SF vote in West Tyrone whereas McCallion and Hazzard both lost ground in 2019, McCallion catastrophically so. |
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Post by stb12 on Jul 6, 2021 17:30:08 GMT
Bit off topic but is there a particular reason Northern Ireland parties always seems to run their Assembly members for Westminster seats? That's including nationalist parties so it's not simply a unionists preferring Westminster thing, and the parties even do it in seats where they have no chance of winning a FPTP seat but have one STV member.
Just seems a bit like there's a lack of candidate choice?
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Post by neilm on Jul 6, 2021 18:24:50 GMT
Sinn Fein seem to have a lot of churn. Do they have some sort of internal deal where you do x years and step down for person y? Like that German party in the European Parliament? Remember Sinn Fein still have dodgy army type councils that make decisions in secret, however much they try to hide it I did wonder if it was something like 'you be an assembly member, I'll smuggle the cigs. Then we'll swap.' |
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Post by neilm on Jul 6, 2021 18:31:58 GMT
Sinn Fein seem to have a lot of churn. Do they have some sort of internal deal where you do x years and step down for person y? Like that German party in the European Parliament? Lynch had been there for a long time; co-option allows them to slot new candidates in before an election in order to accustomize themselves rather than present the electorate with an entirely new face. There's also an issue of trying to rejuvenate an Assembly team that is viewed as lacklustre in comparison with their southern bench; whether it works remains to be seen - certainly the likes of Órfhlaith Begley wouldn't inspire anyone but still gets the "green dog" SF vote in West Tyrone whereas McCallion and Hazzard both lost ground in 2019, McCallion catastrophically so. Begley probably doesn't have an opportunity to do much though: how much profile does an MP who doesn't take their seat have? Sinn Fein have a worse problem than the DUP with this, as loads of them have been around for years and years, and as you say they're hardly inspiring. |
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Post by obsie on Jul 6, 2021 21:45:08 GMT
Bit off topic but is there a particular reason Northern Ireland parties always seems to run their Assembly members for Westminster seats? That's including nationalist parties so it's not simply a unionists preferring Westminster thing, and the parties even do it in seats where they have no chance of winning a FPTP seat but have one STV member. Just seems a bit like there's a lack of candidate choice? In the latter case, it's simply a case of maximizing the vote by running a known candidate. |
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Post by stb12 on Jul 6, 2021 22:33:26 GMT
Bit off topic but is there a particular reason Northern Ireland parties always seems to run their Assembly members for Westminster seats? That's including nationalist parties so it's not simply a unionists preferring Westminster thing, and the parties even do it in seats where they have no chance of winning a FPTP seat but have one STV member. Just seems a bit like there's a lack of candidate choice? In the latter case, it's simply a case of maximizing the vote by running a known candidate. Fair enough, could be seen as missed opportunities to run aspiring members and give them experience of a candidacy. But maybe goes back to overly tribal nature of NI politics again where everyone just wants to record every last vote possible |
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Post by relique on Jul 7, 2021 5:52:42 GMT
In the latter case, it's simply a case of maximizing the vote by running a known candidate. Fair enough, could be seen as missed opportunities to run aspiring members and give them experience of a candidacy. But maybe goes back to overly tribal nature of NI politics again where everyone just wants to record every last vote possible I think it's quite logical that they would try new candidates for target seats or eventual additional seats rather than for a westminster seat... And the opportunity of co-option is indeed quite rationally used to allow new blood to get acquainted with the electorate in a better position than as an unelected citizen before the next election. In France, the mayors (which are elected by the city council) sometimes resign in between two municipal elections to give their designated "heir" (always part of the city council and therefore an elected councillor) a few years to create a relationship with the population. The communist mayor of Cabestany (near Perpignan) just resigned after 44 years of mayorship (and 1 year into his 6-year term) to give his place to his first deputy. She will have 5 years to convince the population to reelect her. As he announced it himself during the municipal campaign, it can't really be a problem, but often it's not declared and it can create tensions (among the councillors, among the population and sometimes between the new and former mayors; I have known plenty of mayors who gave their mayorship to someone only to try and take it back in the next election - and even create the conditions for a by-election) |
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Post by timrollpickering on May 12, 2022 19:37:07 GMT
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Post by cogload on May 13, 2022 16:36:36 GMT
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Post by Rutlander on Apr 23, 2024 21:35:01 GMT
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Post by stb12 on Apr 23, 2024 22:05:59 GMT
Merged the thread into this as the Northern Ireland Assembly uses co-option with no by-elections so a thread isn’t really required |
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Post by CatholicLeft on Apr 23, 2024 22:20:43 GMT
Only 32 years old, maybe he will be one for "longest between elections" when he is re-elected at the age of 74 in 2076. |
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Post by stb12 on Apr 23, 2024 22:26:29 GMT
Only 32 years old, maybe he will be one for "longest between elections" when he is re-elected at the age of 74 in 2076. Interestingly Alliance had another young MLA resign last year, Patricia O'Lynn in North Antrim, like Brown in South Down also their first ever MLA in that constituency. Albeit in that case it could maybe be explained by it looking unlikely that Stormont would return in the foreseeable future and her wanting to take a job with actual work involved |
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Post by johnloony on Apr 24, 2024 1:41:37 GMT
Only 32 years old, maybe he will be one for "longest between elections" when he is re-elected at the age of 74 in 2076. The link goes to the wrong place, but someone who is 32 now would not be eligible to be elected to anything in 2076 at the age of 74. |
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