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Post by Deleted on Oct 25, 2016 19:24:59 GMT
The official Tory majority in the HoC is going to drop from 12 to 10 as a result of their decision not to field a candidate. If he won, he'd scuttle back by Easter. Even if he didn't he would back the Tories mist of the time. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 25, 2016 19:27:42 GMT
I understand the Lib Dem position is no new runway anywhere. In other words populist nonsense.
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Post by Arthur Figgis on Oct 25, 2016 19:29:53 GMT
I understand the Lib Dem position is no new runway anywhere. In other words populist nonsense. Well, obviously. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 25, 2016 19:31:43 GMT
I understand the Lib Dem position is no new runway anywhere. In other words populist nonsense. Well, obviously. Honestly think Labour is the best option here  |
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Post by Pete Whitehead on Oct 25, 2016 19:33:37 GMT
Standing yourself?  Right-of-cntre pro heathrow party? Reckon id save my deposit. You might but Justine Greening might not talk to you again (possibly a good thing?) You said you were going to stand in Batley & spen btw ... |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 25, 2016 19:39:46 GMT
Honestly think Labour is the best option here I don't think that the Liberal Democrats are quite so wacky and useless as Labour's leader to be honest. I have a real aversion to populism. Its why I don't like May. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 25, 2016 19:41:37 GMT
Right-of-cntre pro heathrow party? Reckon id save my deposit. You might but Justine Greening might not talk to you again (possibly a good thing?) You said you were going to stand in Batley & spen btw ... I said if no one stands against Labour! Most activists in Putney including Chair and Deputy Chair openly dont agree with JG |
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Post by AdminSTB on Oct 25, 2016 19:49:18 GMT
On behalf of the forum, I wish @barnabymarder the best of luck in his quest for the Labour candidacy.
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Post by Adam in Stroud on Oct 25, 2016 19:52:48 GMT
I don't think that the Liberal Democrats are quite so wacky and useless as Labour's leader to be honest. Standards are slipping. Now in my day..... |
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Post by AdminSTB on Oct 25, 2016 19:55:46 GMT
As a Conservative supporter for most of my life, I am torn.
On the one hand I want to see Goldsmith punished for doing this (he's foolishly putting his entire political career on the line), but at the same time I don't want to give the Lib Dems an inch. Their polling numbers, at long last, could get a huge boost if they gain this seat. I am too young to appreciate the Conservative landslides of the Eighties and I'll like think I'll see at least one more before I die! Then a further thought occurs: a Lib Dem boost might not necessarily be all at the Conservatives' expense what with the current Labour leadership.
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Post by East Anglian Lefty on Oct 25, 2016 19:56:51 GMT
The official Tory majority in the HoC is going to drop from 12 to 10 as a result of their decision not to field a candidate. If he won, he'd scuttle back by Easter. Probably a big part of the reason for not putting forward a candidate. If CCHQ was actively working against him, there'd be more chance of relations being so strained he could no longer be relied upon at all. |
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Post by greenhert on Oct 25, 2016 20:11:49 GMT
How soon will the writ be moved to confirm the by-election date?
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Post by gwynthegriff on Oct 25, 2016 20:30:22 GMT
Will there not be people in Richmond who approve of Heathrow expansion?
Either because they use it, or because they work there?
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Post by Deleted on Oct 25, 2016 20:52:26 GMT
I understand the Lib Dem position is no new runway anywhere. In other words populist nonsense. Sensible economic and environmental thinking. |
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Post by Richard Allen on Oct 25, 2016 20:55:30 GMT
Will there not be people in Richmond who approve of Heathrow expansion? Either because they use it, or because they work there? There certainly will be. I once had a conversation a 19/20 year old resident of Richmond by the name of Oliver Golding, a very good junior tennis player (won the US Open boys singles in 2011) who sadly quit the game when success at adult level didn't swiftly follow. Anyway, he was complaining that Heathrow (which he used regularly) was an utter shambles and said he couldn't understand why after years of talk it still hadn't been expanded. I gently suggested to him that he should have a word with his neighbours to which he replied that opinion wasn't anywhere near as one sided as is often made out. |
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Post by hedgehog on Oct 25, 2016 21:15:45 GMT
I understand the Lib Dem position is no new runway anywhere. In other words populist nonsense. If I was thinking of a cheap populist policy, it would be build more runways, encourage more airlines by subsidising landing fees and getting rid of air passenger duty. I don't see how 'no new runways' is populist, its saying we need to stop growing air transport, people don't generally like to hear that. |
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Post by Adam in Stroud on Oct 25, 2016 21:15:48 GMT
Will there not be people in Richmond who approve of Heathrow expansion? Either because they use it, or because they work there? The R4 "Today" programme slot about the decision last week had a local business leader welcoming the expected decision, alongside the residents' group opposition. Unfortunately for him half of his comment had to be shouted out over the noise of an incoming aircraft. |
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Post by Davıd Boothroyd on Oct 25, 2016 21:24:05 GMT
Ironically it means that Zac Goldsmith will end up taking over a job from Sadiq Khan as he will be appointed Crown Steward and Bailiff of the Chiltern Hundreds putting Sadiq on the dole queue. David Cameron having obviously bagged the Steward of the Manor of Northstead position in the meantime. When was the last time either Steward did any stewarding? Not since the 18th century, for certain. |
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Post by Adam in Stroud on Oct 25, 2016 21:51:24 GMT
So we are going to have a by-election with the two main participants being anti-Heathrow expansion. The purpose being ... ? There's a strong argument that the Conservatives should have put up an official candidate to give locals who want expansion - of whom there will clearly be some, especially those with an interest in business opportunities - a chance to register their views. Heathrow expansion has after all been announced as the government's preferred option, and a by-election has been called on the issue, yet the government is not going to put up a candidate to defend their position. I'm against airport expansion anywhere on emissions grounds but the alternative view is arguable and should be argued IMO. Frankly I think it is another example of the political expediency and general cluelessness of the current government who have taken a perfectly defensible position (that I happen to disagree with it) but have tried to delay the implementation for a year as a matter of party management and now seem to want to minimise the embarrassment of a by-election defeat by pretending the whole thing is nothing to do with them. (I suppose Labour could stand on a pro-Runway 3 policy, which would be quite amusing. It would be quite a bright move for UKIP, if anyone there is having any lucid intervals.) As it is, I think this gives Goldsmith a bit of a problem. As Gwyn says, both leading candidates will be anti-R3 which rather negates his USP. If anything, which will give a bigger kick in the pants to the govt on this policy - electing Goldsmith, who will presumably still support the govt on most issues, or electing an LD? On the other hand he can hardly claim to be the obvious choice for loyalist Tories since he has chosen to stand as an independent and against government policy. If opposition to R3 is a given, you are then left with "everything else" of which the biggest single issue is Brexit, a policy area which locally strongly favours the LDs (and on which Goldsmith opted for Leave). Presumably Goldsmith does have a personal vote, but I don't imagine his Mayoral campaign has left that untarnished. I'm sure he will be in with a chance, but I think he is vulnerable on several fronts. And I imagine that if Witney was a case of throwing "not just the kitchen sink at this by-election, but the dishwasher, tumble dryer and the plumbing too" then in Richmond Park I expect we'll be ripping out the bathroom. |
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Post by peterl on Oct 25, 2016 22:07:51 GMT
I understand the Lib Dem position is no new runway anywhere. In other words populist nonsense. Sensible economic and environmental thinking. Its rare I agree with a Lib Dem policy, but yes it is sensible. |
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