Deleted
Deleted Member
Posts: 0
|
Post by Deleted on Feb 3, 2017 23:59:37 GMT
28 parties will be on the ballot paper. Can't wait to receive my poll card, which will be accompagnied by a dummy ballot paper I'm looking forward to the forum poll. I expect JEZUS LEEFT to be a clear winner.  |
|
|
|
Post by freefair on Feb 4, 2017 9:46:04 GMT
I'd definitely vote VVD here. They're very close to being my ideal political party- socially secular and liberal and economically liberal,fiscally conservative, pro EU and NATO but also anti-mass 3rd world immigration and tough on crime.
|
|
Deleted
Deleted Member
Posts: 0
|
Post by Deleted on Feb 4, 2017 10:26:07 GMT
I'd definitely vote VVD here. They're very close to being my ideal political party- socially secular and liberal and economically liberal,fiscally conservative, pro EU and NATO but also anti-mass 3rd world immigration and tough on crime. In my perception, the VVD only really stands for lower taxes and higher speed limits on the highways. Given their record in government and the number of VVD politicians convicted for corruption in recent years, their whole ' tough on crime' spiel really sounds a bit hollow. |
|
Deleted
Deleted Member
Posts: 0
|
Post by Deleted on Feb 4, 2017 13:18:37 GMT
28 parties will be on the ballot paper. Can't wait to receive my poll card, which will be accompagnied by a dummy ballot paper PvdA and GroenLinks, and SGP and ChristenUnie form a list combination. The votes of the two parties are treated as of one party when it comes to distributing the left over seats. A higher percentage of the vote means a significantly higher chance of getting those left over seats. The seats that are won by the combination are then divided between the parties, by what is called een ' combinatiekiesdeler' |
|
iain
Lib Dem
Posts: 11,438 
Member is Online
|
Post by iain on Feb 4, 2017 13:42:46 GMT
28 parties will be on the ballot paper. Can't wait to receive my poll card, which will be accompagnied by a dummy ballot paper PvdA and GroenLinks, and SGP and ChristenUnie form a list combination. The votes of the two parties are treated as of one party when it comes to distributing the left over seats. A higher percentage of the vote means a significantly higher chance of getting those left over seats. The seats that are won by the combination are then divided between the parties, by what is called een ' combinatiekiesdeler'Â A pretty ridiculous state of affairs. |
|
Deleted
Deleted Member
Posts: 0
|
Post by Deleted on Feb 4, 2017 14:46:05 GMT
PvdA and GroenLinks, and SGP and ChristenUnie form a list combination. The votes of the two parties are treated as of one party when it comes to distributing the left over seats. A higher percentage of the vote means a significantly higher chance of getting those left over seats. The seats that are won by the combination are then divided between the parties, by what is called een ' combinatiekiesdeler' A pretty ridiculous state of affairs. Thank you for this well argued reaction |
|
Deleted
Deleted Member
Posts: 0
|
Post by Deleted on Feb 4, 2017 16:50:50 GMT
Districts the micro parties are running in:  |
|
Foggy
Non-Aligned
Yn Ennill Yma
Posts: 6,137
|
Post by Foggy on Feb 4, 2017 17:46:17 GMT
I'd definitely vote VVD here. They're very close to being my ideal political party- socially secular and liberal and economically liberal,fiscally conservative, pro EU and NATO but also anti-mass 3rd world immigration and tough on crime. In my perception, the VVD only really stands for lower taxes and higher speed limits on the highways. Given their record in government and the number of VVD politicians convicted for corruption in recent years, their whole ' tough on crime' spiel really sounds a bit hollow. I know someone in Limburg who could be described as socially liberal and very much in favour of low personal and business taxes, but he also seems to regard speed limits on motorways as some sort of outrageous affront to his personal freedom. Indeed, that whole issue seems to take on extraordinary importance at German and (especially) elections compared to other countries. |
|
mazuz
Conservative
Posts: 155
|
Post by mazuz on Feb 4, 2017 17:52:07 GMT
I'd definitely vote VVD here. They're very close to being my ideal political party- socially secular and liberal and economically liberal,fiscally conservative, pro EU and NATO but also anti-mass 3rd world immigration and tough on crime. Just as much as the German CDU. |
|
|
|
Post by Antiochian on Feb 4, 2017 19:12:28 GMT
In my perception, the VVD only really stands for lower taxes and higher speed limits on the highways. Given their record in government and the number of VVD politicians convicted for corruption in recent years, their whole ' tough on crime' spiel really sounds a bit hollow. I know someone in Limburg who could be described as socially liberal and very much in favour of low personal and business taxes, but he also seems to regard speed limits on motorways as some sort of outrageous affront to his personal freedom. Indeed, that whole issue seems to take on extraordinary importance at German and (especially) elections compared to other countries. The Dutch equivalent of the man on the Clapham omnibus? |
|
Foggy
Non-Aligned
Yn Ennill Yma
Posts: 6,137
|
Post by Foggy on Feb 4, 2017 19:18:33 GMT
I know someone in Limburg who could be described as socially liberal and very much in favour of low personal and business taxes, but he also seems to regard speed limits on motorways as some sort of outrageous affront to his personal freedom. Indeed, that whole issue seems to take on extraordinary importance at German and (especially) elections compared to other countries. The Dutch equivalent of the man on the Clapham omnibus? Except that said equivalent would never be seen dead on a bus! |
|
|
|
Post by Pete Whitehead on Feb 4, 2017 20:38:12 GMT
I know someone in Limburg who could be described as socially liberal and very much in favour of low personal and business taxes, but he also seems to regard speed limits on motorways as some sort of outrageous affront to his personal freedom. Indeed, that whole issue seems to take on extraordinary importance at German and (especially) elections compared to other countries. The Dutch equivalent of the man on the Clapham omnibus? The man on the Clapham omnibus might not be too concerned about this issue since rather than driving on the motorway he's sitting on a bus in inner London. Anyway with the 80% plus Remain vote in Clapham last June the idea of the man on the Clapham omnibus being a proxy for the views of 'middle England' is long past its sell by date (not least given that most likely he isn't English anyway). What we have now is the woman on the Kettering omnibus |
|
|
|
Post by gwynthegriff on Feb 4, 2017 21:32:44 GMT
I wondered how I was quoted on this thread!  Problem with the Kettering omnibus is that few people ride them. Perhaps "the woman in Kettering Sainsburys"? |
|
Deleted
Deleted Member
Posts: 0
|
Post by Deleted on Feb 5, 2017 15:05:30 GMT
|
|
Sibboleth
Labour
'Sit on my finger, sing in my ear, O littleblood.'
Posts: 16,036
|
Post by Sibboleth on Feb 5, 2017 15:28:40 GMT
roflmao
|
|
Deleted
Deleted Member
Posts: 0
|
Post by Deleted on Feb 5, 2017 15:36:48 GMT
Looking forward to 50Plus overtaking PvdA. |
|
|
|
Post by John Chanin on Feb 5, 2017 21:09:00 GMT
I have to say (reluctantly) that the Netherlands is not a good advert for PR.
|
|
|
|
Post by Devil Wincarnate on Feb 5, 2017 21:28:02 GMT
I have to say (reluctantly) that the Netherlands is not a good advert for PR. Deeply civilised country, deeply awful politics. |
|
|
|
Post by AdminSTB on Feb 5, 2017 21:35:11 GMT
28 parties will be on the ballot paper. Can't wait to receive my poll card, which will be accompagnied by a dummy ballot paper I'm looking forward to the forum poll. ^ There you go. |
|
|
|
Post by mrpastelito on Feb 5, 2017 21:59:37 GMT
I have to say (reluctantly) that the Netherlands is not a good advert for PR. Why not? I think it's brilliant. The only thing missing is proper Independents, but they'd need a different system for that. |
|
