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Post by Penddu on Oct 19, 2016 7:30:44 GMT
In the Abergele Pensarn seat I am surprised that there is no UKIP candidate as they performed very well last time out and it could have been winnable for them.
But I predict an Independent gain.
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Post by maxque on Oct 19, 2016 7:39:58 GMT
St Mary's - East Riding of Yorkshire UA - Irene Charis (Conservative) died. He was a councillor since 2011 and was the first black councillor ever elected for the East Riding. First David, now you within the space of 24 hours! This modern, politically correct fashion for using male personal pronouns as catch-all gender-neutral terms is becoming too widespread for my liking. A quick Google search suggests you got the ethnicity right, though. It's rather me going too quickly and not proofreading myself. In the same line of thought, I also misspelled names of UKIP candidates in the posts of last week and the week before. I'm very against that fashion, for the record, and in my mother tongue, French, I fight for the "feminization" of job titles. People in France won't say the French word for a mayoress, they'll say a woman mayor (however, that's not the case in Belgium/Switzerland/Quebec), and I'm strongly opposed to the way they do in France. Mind you, 12 is a lot.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 19, 2016 11:44:24 GMT
Take no notice of Foggy.
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Post by Lord Twaddleford on Oct 19, 2016 12:50:31 GMT
In the Abergele Pensarn seat I am surprised that there is no UKIP candidate as they performed very well last time out and it could have been winnable for them. But I predict an Independent gain. I too am surprised at the lack of UKIP here. I would imagine that if an independent were to gain the seat it would be Michael David Smith, he was on the ballot at the previous by-election and he came in a rather strong 2nd. Still, it depends on how much residual support Labour has here, and David Hancock should be known in the area, least of all as he's a member of the Abergele Town Council for the corresponding ward (as is another opponent, Alan Hunter).
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Post by gwynthegriff on Oct 19, 2016 13:11:12 GMT
Is-Etholiadau yn Gymru, yn Gymraeg? Iechyd da! *yng Nghymru? Fancy missing a nasal mutation! Tsk!
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Post by Lord Twaddleford on Oct 19, 2016 13:15:39 GMT
Fancy missing a nasal mutation! Tsk! Ugh, can't abide nasal mutations myself, always tripping over the cursed things. We'd all be better off without 'em methinks.
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Post by Penddu on Oct 19, 2016 13:31:59 GMT
Fancy missing a nasal mutation! Tsk! Ugh, can't abide nasal mutations myself, always tripping over the cursed things. We'd all be better off without 'em methinks. Nasal mutations are just part of an evil plan by you gogs to make us all sound like Scousers...
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Post by Crimson King on Oct 19, 2016 17:05:49 GMT
Nghow then, nghow then
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Post by Foggy on Oct 19, 2016 19:46:26 GMT
It's rather me going too quickly and not proofreading myself. In the same line of thought, I also misspelled names of UKIP candidates in the posts of last week and the week before. I'm very against that fashion, for the record, and in my mother tongue, French, I fight for the "feminization" of job titles. People in France won't say the French word for a mayoress, they'll say a woman mayor (however, that's not the case in Belgium/Switzerland/Quebec), and I'm strongly opposed to the way they do in France. Mind you, 12 is a lot. Well I for one, think you do a grand job. He does. I hadn't even noticed the recent UKIP candidate name errors. There's a lot to put together this week, and motivation must be particularly difficult as it's one of those rare weeks when local by-elections will be overshadowed by parliamentary ones. I can see how 'mayor(ess)' is a good political example, but female mayors have been referred to as 'mayor' for at least 80 years in this country, so it's hardly a recent phenomenon and has never bothered me. A mayoress is the wife of a mayor or, occasionally, a Mayoral Consort who happens to be female. I agree when it comes to 'female actor' and the like, though.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 19, 2016 19:52:03 GMT
Yng Nghymraeg! Wrth gwrs... Strangely, "in Welsh" is "yn Gymraeg", but "in my father's Welsh" is "yng Nghymraeg fy nhad"
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Post by Penddu on Oct 20, 2016 3:53:09 GMT
I am not a fluent Welsh speaker...I am OK with the easier mutations (Bach-Fach, Cymru-Gymru) but I usually miss the nasal ones out... (C-Ngh, P-Ph). I don't think they make much difference..
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Post by carlton43 on Oct 20, 2016 8:18:51 GMT
First David, now you within the space of 24 hours! This modern, politically correct fashion for using male personal pronouns as catch-all gender-neutral terms is becoming too widespread for my liking. A quick Google search suggests you got the ethnicity right, though. It's rather me going too quickly and not proofreading myself. In the same line of thought, I also misspelled names of UKIP candidates in the posts of last week and the week before. I'm very against that fashion, for the record, and in my mother tongue, French, I fight for the "feminization" of job titles. People in France won't say the French word for a mayoress, they'll say a woman mayor (however, that's not the case in Belgium/Switzerland/Quebec), and I'm strongly opposed to the way they do in France. Mind you, 12 is a lot. I loath the feminization of titles. I abhor mayoress.......they are mayors and not lady mayors or woman mayors. I abhor actress and poetess, painteress and sculptress. Note how easily some of those slip off the tongue and how very odd others seem! We are people and the descriptive nouns should be regarded as gender neutral. In so far as the gender matters to some, then the Christian name will be a guide. Gender should not matter.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 20, 2016 10:14:01 GMT
Yng Nghymraeg! Wrth gwrs... *yn Gymraeg*
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Post by MeirionGwril on Oct 20, 2016 12:23:54 GMT
Yng Nghymraeg! Wrth gwrs... *yn Gymraeg* Already noted, see above: Strangely, "in Welsh" is "yn Gymraeg", but "in my father's Welsh" is "yng Nghymraeg fy nhad"
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Post by Deleted on Oct 20, 2016 12:45:33 GMT
Already noted, see above: Strangely, "in Welsh" is "yn Gymraeg", but "in my father's Welsh" is "yng Nghymraeg fy nhad" Personally, I don't see why this should be so.
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Post by Lord Twaddleford on Oct 20, 2016 13:12:02 GMT
I am not a fluent Welsh speaker...I am OK with the easier mutations (Bach-Fach, Cymru-Gymru) but I usually miss the nasal ones out... (C-Ngh, P-Ph). I don't think they make much difference.. And to think we haven't even touched on the aspirant mutations yet...
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Post by Lord Twaddleford on Oct 20, 2016 13:14:48 GMT
In the Abergele Pensarn seat I am surprised that there is no UKIP candidate as they performed very well last time out and it could have been winnable for them. But I predict an Independent gain. Looking at the prediction competition thread, it would seem that most entrants would agree with you; they've been mainly for Smith, though I've seen a couple for Hunter. Though that said, a few people do predict a Labour hold. Think we can rate this one a tossup.
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Post by lennon on Oct 20, 2016 14:01:42 GMT
In the Abergele Pensarn seat I am surprised that there is no UKIP candidate as they performed very well last time out and it could have been winnable for them. But I predict an Independent gain. Looking at the prediction competition thread, it would seem that most entrants would agree with you; they've been mainly for Smith, though I've seen a couple for Hunter. Though that said, a few people do predict a Labour hold. Think we can rate this one a tossup. Or is it that most entrants haven't a scoobie about the mind of the electorate of Abergele, and took notice of someone that appeared to sound like they knew what they were talking about...
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Post by Lord Twaddleford on Oct 20, 2016 14:07:09 GMT
Looking at the prediction competition thread, it would seem that most entrants would agree with you; they've been mainly for Smith, though I've seen a couple for Hunter. Though that said, a few people do predict a Labour hold. Think we can rate this one a tossup. Or is it that most entrants haven't a scoobie about the mind of the electorate of Abergele, and took notice of someone that appeared to sound like they knew what they were talking about... Well there is a tendency amongst the Welsh electorate to elect independents to local government, and the last by-election in the area did produce a close result between Labour and Smith...
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Post by Deleted on Oct 20, 2016 15:26:33 GMT
Already noted, see above: Strangely, "in Welsh" is "yn Gymraeg", but "in my father's Welsh" is "yng Nghymraeg fy nhad" Personally, I don't see why this should be so. The usual explanation is that it's short for "yn y Gymraeg", where the soft mutation is because Cymraeg is feminine. Oh, and Lord T, it's aspirate not aspirant mutation!
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