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Post by hullenedge on May 10, 2020 15:03:17 GMT
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Post by nodealbrexiteer on May 10, 2020 15:30:28 GMT
google 'computing journal forecasting 1959 election'. when the results come up click where it says Forecasting election results-Milledge(this is the second line under where it says 'Scholarly articles for computing journal forecasting 1959 election'. I can access it no logging in needed I think the issue was the link times out so go in straight away |
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Post by andrewp on May 10, 2020 19:31:49 GMT
I’m watching the 1959 election coverage.
The types of seats that declared early in 1959 are places that declare much much later nowadays- Sutton and Cheam, Hastings, Exeter
The 2 Salford seats were quite close in the 1950s- did they both cover part of the current Salford and Eccles constituency?
And how was David Butler only 34 in this coverage. Looks older!
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Post by Pete Whitehead on May 10, 2020 19:41:24 GMT
I’m watching the 1959 election coverage. The types of seats that declared early in 1959 are places that declare much much later nowadays- Sutton and Cheam, Hastings, Exeter The 2 Salford seats were quite close in the 1950s- did they both cover part of the current Salford and Eccles constituency? And how was David Butler only 34 in this coverage. Looks older! I tried watching this yesterday but my children wouldn't let me. Didn't realise it was available on the iplayer. I shall make a point to watch it in full at some point in the next month - probably in the early hours when it's possible to get some peace and quiet. I did catch a bit of the 2010 but not really interested in watching any more of that as the small part I caught was mostly Andrew Neil and his fucking ridiculous boat full of celebs |
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Post by timmullen1 on May 10, 2020 19:49:08 GMT
I’m watching the 1959 election coverage. The types of seats that declared early in 1959 are places that declare much much later nowadays- Sutton and Cheam, Hastings, Exeter The 2 Salford seats were quite close in the 1950s- did they both cover part of the current Salford and Eccles constituency? And how was David Butler only 34 in this coverage. Looks older! I tried watching this yesterday but my children wouldn't let me. Didn't realise it was available on the iplayer. I shall make a point to watch it in full at some point in the next month - probably in the early hours when it's possible to get some peace and quiet. I did catch a bit of the 2010 but not really interested in watching any more of that as the small part I caught was mostly Andrew Neil and his fucking ridiculous boat full of celebs A bit like Frank Skinner and his plane across Britain in 1997 the boat was largely abandoned when the results started to become more than just Sunderland, and what there was was the usual “sensible” political guests like the DG of the CBI type. |
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Post by AdminSTB on May 10, 2020 19:51:17 GMT
It took the experts quite a long time to realise who was going to win in 1959, and that this would be a Tory landslide. Many of the early results seemed to show pro-Labour swings.
The first Con gain was for Geoffrey Johnson Smith in Holborn & St. Pancras, South. Only a quarter of an hour earlier Robert Mackenzie pointed out that 10 results had been declared and no-one had been prepared to predict who had won.
All of this can be viewed on YouTube, of course. I realise it's not quite the same as TV.
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Post by Pete Whitehead on May 10, 2020 19:59:38 GMT
I tried watching this yesterday but my children wouldn't let me. Didn't realise it was available on the iplayer. I shall make a point to watch it in full at some point in the next month - probably in the early hours when it's possible to get some peace and quiet. I did catch a bit of the 2010 but not really interested in watching any more of that as the small part I caught was mostly Andrew Neil and his fucking ridiculous boat full of celebs the boat was largely abandoned when the results started to become more than just Sunderland, and what there was was the usual “sensible” political guests like the DG of the CBI type. I have no recollection of that - must have missed it at the time (thankfully) |
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Post by timrollpickering on May 10, 2020 20:04:23 GMT
If you want late 1950s elections of an alternative sort:
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Post by nodealbrexiteer on May 10, 2020 20:31:01 GMT
It took the experts quite a long time to realise who was going to win in 1959, and that this would be a Tory landslide. Many of the early results seemed to show pro-Labour swings. The first Con gain was for Geoffrey Johnson Smith in Holborn & St. Pancras, South. Only a quarter of an hour earlier Robert Mackenzie pointed out that 10 results had been declared and no-one had been prepared to predict who had won. All of this can be viewed on YouTube, of course. I realise it's not quite the same as TV. I think the messages were confused with Scotland and parts of Lancashire swinging to Labour. I think the ITN commentary mentioned early on that the Labour seats seemed to be swinging to them and the Tory seats to them but there were larger swings to the Tories hence the overall swing was toward them-of course then the more consistent pro Tory swings started to emerge(I guess this picture is why the guardian computer in that article I linked earlier had Labour initially as the largest party on 313 seats!) |
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Post by finsobruce on May 10, 2020 20:54:36 GMT
If you want late 1950s elections of an alternative sort: If the Secretary of State for Health deputised for Boris at PMQs they could rename it "Hancock's Half Hour". |
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Post by andrewp on May 12, 2020 19:52:16 GMT
On the 1959 coverage, within a minute- there was a 16000 Conservative majority declared in Liverpool Wavertree and a Labour hold in Romford. How times change! Was the Romford seat broadly the same Geographical area as today?
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Post by Davıd Boothroyd on May 12, 2020 19:58:34 GMT
On the 1959 coverage, within a minute- there was a 16000 Conservative majority declared in Liverpool Wavertree and a Labour hold in Romford. How times change! Was the Romford seat broadly the same Geographical area as today? It also included the Harold Hill area which was and is very strongly working class, and was very Labour in 1959. |
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Post by Harry Hayfield on May 12, 2020 20:59:35 GMT
On the 1959 coverage, within a minute- there was a 16000 Conservative majority declared in Liverpool Wavertree and a Labour hold in Romford. How times change! Was the Romford seat broadly the same Geographical area as today? As part of the run-up to the 2019 election, I looked at the electoral history of Liverpool (the area covered by the constituencies today with Liverpool in their title) and came to the conclusion that the Conservatives' death knell in Liverpool was sounded in 1987. I will try and find those figures and post them. |
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Post by chorleyboy on May 16, 2020 12:04:40 GMT
[/quote]I have no recollection of that - must have missed it at the time (thankfully)[/quote]
It was right at the beginning of the programme - maybe you started watching after this?
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Post by timmullen1 on May 16, 2020 12:42:55 GMT
I have no recollection of that - must have missed it at the time (thankfully)[/quote] It was right at the beginning of the programme - maybe you started watching after this?[/quote] He was mainly on from Harrogate IIRC; he had the Mayor reading a mock result and experimenting with ways of pronouncing Lamont (Norman Lamont was standing), he interviewed two blokes who allegedly looked like Blair and Major, and a couple of sequence dancers, the man had voted Tory, the woman Labour, and was in a nightclub with a group of first time voters. He had said he would be visiting a maternity hospital but that never made it to air. |
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Post by David Ashforth on May 17, 2020 10:30:13 GMT
If you want late 1950s elections of an alternative sort: If the Secretary of State for Health deputised for Boris at PMQs they could rename it "Hancock's Half Hour". is one of the backgrounds available to download. Yes Minister is also available, sadly the Election programmes are not. |
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Post by David Ashforth on May 23, 2020 8:24:06 GMT
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Post by Pete Whitehead on May 23, 2020 16:38:52 GMT
I know we always complain about Jeremy Vine and his cowboy routine and Andrew Neil's boat and rightly so, but we may imagine that old school election programmes were free of such dross. Currently watching this programme (about an hour and a half behind the live airing) and seem to be constantly assailed by lame little ditties by Richard Stilgoe - this would have seriously got on my tits if I had been watching at the time |
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Post by manchesterman on May 23, 2020 17:31:54 GMT
Stilgoe's ditties getting on your titties. I can think of someone who could compose an instant song about that!  |
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Post by David Ashforth on May 30, 2020 7:25:15 GMT
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