neilm
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Post by neilm on Sept 2, 2016 1:21:40 GMT
That's a really striking figure in Four Lanes. Terrible drop for UKIP and no good for the Conservatives. At that rate, it looks like marksenior's predictions for Cornwall may be correct. |
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peterl
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Post by peterl on Sept 2, 2016 1:43:33 GMT
Just back from the Dorset County/East Dorset count. Double Tory hold, UKIP second, LD third, Labour fourth.
Can't remember exact numbers but County was something like Tory 2,054 UKIP 1,192 Lib Dem 290 Labour 150
District was roughly Tory 650 UKIP 400 Lib Dem 80 Labour 54
Awful night for us, with four winnable seats and we didn't win one. (Unless Bournemouth was close) didn't even get a near miss. Very disappointed.
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Post by Old Fashioned Leftie on Sept 2, 2016 5:53:22 GMT
Just back from the Dorset County/East Dorset count. Double Tory hold, UKIP second, LD third, Labour fourth. Can't remember exact numbers but County was something like Tory 2,054 UKIP 1,192 Lib Dem 290 Labour 150 District was roughly Tory 650 UKIP 400 Lib Dem 80 Labour 54 Awful night for us, with four winnable seats and we didn't win one. (Unless Bournemouth was close) didn't even get a near miss. Very disappointed. It looks like the leadership debacle within UKIP is having a similar effect to that within the Labour Party. |
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Post by Pete Whitehead on Sept 2, 2016 6:39:50 GMT
Just back from the Dorset County/East Dorset count. Double Tory hold, UKIP second, LD third, Labour fourth. Can't remember exact numbers but County was something like Tory 2,054 UKIP 1,192 Lib Dem 290 Labour 150 District was roughly Tory 650 UKIP 400 Lib Dem 80 Labour 54 Awful night for us, with four winnable seats and we didn't win one. (Unless Bournemouth was close) didn't even get a near miss. Very disappointed. Well I think if those two results are accurate then they are not awful at all representing quite an improvement against 2015 wheras in most places we;re stll dropping back from then. There is some context to the othre two results {UKIP candidatae from St Ives in Four Lanes and classic two-party squeeze in Stockton) but even allowing for this they are awful results even by recent poor standards. Against that, your result and that of your district colleague are actually quite impressive (less impressive is that you 'can't remember' exact numbers! have you heard of pen and paper?!  ) |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 2, 2016 6:53:16 GMT
Paper candidates have to provide own pen as well.......
couldn't resist.
sure Peter1 wasn't that.
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Post by mrpastelito on Sept 2, 2016 7:46:52 GMT
Although the definitions have changed over the centuries , City derives from the Roman CIVITAS and Town from the Roman OPPIDUM . As late as the 16th century Edinburgh was not a City but an Oppidum and described as the latter on coins minted there . Reminds me that isle and island are not related. Isle is from insula and related to île in French, whereas island should really be eiland and is a Saxon word. Some clever d**k wrongly assumed a connection and so we have a daft spelling. FTFY, putting the pedant's hat on the i. A very interesting example from a linguistic point of view - the circonflexe indicating a muted 's'. One can therefore conclude the word entered the English language at a time when the 's' was in the process of turning mute, but that process hadn't yet been reflected in the spelling (as in modF 'île'). |
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Post by Pete Whitehead on Sept 2, 2016 8:35:26 GMT
Did the council staff in Bournemouth and East Dorset all go to the beach ?
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Post by middleenglander on Sept 2, 2016 8:46:09 GMT
Did the council staff in Bournemouth and East Dorset all go to the beach ? They only attend 4 days a week - not Fridays. They get double time off when they have to work late counting bits of paper. |
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Post by marksenior on Sept 2, 2016 9:00:24 GMT
Dorset Ferndown Con 2046 UKIP 1092 Lib Dem 260 Lab 190
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Post by East Anglian Lefty on Sept 2, 2016 9:13:28 GMT
Although the definitions have changed over the centuries , City derives from the Roman CIVITAS and Town from the Roman OPPIDUM . As late as the 16th century Edinburgh was not a City but an Oppidum and described as the latter on coins minted there . Now that the election results have mostly come in, we can get back to discussing important things like this. Civitas doesn't tend to denote a city. It denotes a city and its hinterland. In the later Roman Empire, it's used to describe sub-provincial areas about the size of a county or two. In fact in Britain the were frequently the forerunners of post-Roman kingdoms, even though these had no urban centres worth the name. The normal Latin word for a city is urbs. |
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Post by robert1 on Sept 2, 2016 9:17:30 GMT
Parley
Con 631, UKIP 369, LD 84, Lab 52
Kinson S
Con 556, Lab 517, UKIP 313, LD 116, Grn 102
Hope I have figures correct
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Post by robert1 on Sept 2, 2016 9:34:09 GMT
Sorry typed Kinson S should have been Kinson N
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The Bishop
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Post by The Bishop on Sept 2, 2016 9:52:46 GMT
Labour did better in Bournemouth than Stockton, then - probably not what many of us were expecting.
Any possible local explanations for the latter result?
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Post by Arthur Figgis on Sept 2, 2016 9:59:14 GMT
Sorry typed Kinson S should have been Kinson N Not to worry, Bournemouth council managed the same last year. |
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Post by Pete Whitehead on Sept 2, 2016 10:24:24 GMT
Nearly 90% for Con/UKIP combined in the East Dorset seats - nice
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Post by middleenglander on Sept 2, 2016 10:25:10 GMT
Bournemouth, Kinson North - Conservative hold | Party | 2016 votes | 2016 share | since 2015 "top" | since 2015 "average" | since 2011 "top" | since 2011 "average" | | Conservative | 556 | 34.7% | +2.2% | +2.3% | +3.9% | +3.8% | Labour
| 517 | 32.2% | +11.2% | +12.9% | +4.4% | +5.6%
| UKIP
| 313 | 19.5% | -7.5% | -8.8% | from nowhere | from nowhere | Liberal Democrat
| 116 | 7.2% | -1.8% | -2.2% | -19.8% | -20.2% | Green
| 102 | 6.4% | -4.1% | -4.2% | from nowhere | from nowhere | Independent |
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| -14.4% | -15.1% | Total votes | 1,604 |
| 32% | 33% | 54% | 57% |
Swing, if meaningful, Conservative to Labour ~5% since 2015 and les than 1% since 2011
Council now 51 Conservative, 1 Green, 1 UKIP, 1 Independent
Cornwall, Four Lanes - Liberal Democrat gain from UKIP
| Party | 2016 votes | 2016 share | since 2013 | | Liberal Democrat | 300 | 34.7% | from nowhere | Independent | 144 | 16.6% | from nowhere | Conservative | 128 | 14.8% | -5.8% | Labour | 125 | 14.5% | -5.7% | Mebyon Kernow | 111 | 12.8% | -0.9% | UKIP | 57 | 6.6% | -21.9% | Liberal |
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| -17.0% | Total votes | 865 |
| 103% |
Swing not meaningful
Council now 44 Liberal Democrat, 34 Independent, 30 Conservative, 8 Labour, 4 Mebyon Kernow, 1 Green, 1 UKIP, 1 Non-aligned
Dorset, Ferndown - Conservative hold | Party | 2016 votes | 2016 share | since 2013 "top" | since 2013 "average" | since 2009 "top" | since 2009 "average" | Conservative | 2,046 | 57.0% | +13.1% | +12.3% | +3.2% | +3.0% | UKIP | 1,092 | 30.4% | -14.2% | -14.0% | +3.6% | +3.8% | Liberal Democrat | 260 | 7.2% | from nowhere | from nowhere | -6.5% | -6.5% | Labour | 190 | 5.3% | -6.1% | -5.5% | -0.3% | -0.4% | Total votes | 3,588 |
| 72% | 75% | 54% | 55% |
Swing UKIP to Conservative ~13% since 2013 and little changed since 2009
Council now 26 Conservative, 13 Liberal Democrat, 4 Labour, 1 UKIP, 1 Green
East Dorset, Parley - Conservative hold | Party | 2016 votes | 2016 share | since 2015 "top" | since 2015 "average" | | since 2011 "top" * | since 2011 "average" * | | Conservative | 631 | 54.3% | -2.3% | -2.2% |
| -21.0% | -20.7% | UKIP | 396 | 34.0% | +8.4% | +8.4% |
| from nowhere | from nowhere | Liberal Democrat | 84 | 7.2% | from nowhere | from nowhere |
| -17.5% | -17.8% | Labour | 52 | 4.5% | from nowhere | from nowhere |
| from nowhere | from nowhere | No Description |
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| -9.2% | -9.6% |
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| -8.6% | -8.2% |
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| Total votes | 1,163 |
| 35% | 36% |
| 59% | 60% |
* minor boundary changes after 2011 swing Conservative to UKIP ~5¼% since 2015
Council now 26 Conservative, 3 Liberal Democrat
Stockton-On-Tees, Grangefield - Conservative gain from Labour| Party | 2016 votes | 2016 share | since 2015 "top" | since 2015 "average" | since 2011 "top" | since 2011 "average" | | Conservative | 807 | 50.5% | +15.4% | -15.1% | +5.3% | +6.0% | Labour | 689 | 43.1% | -5.5% | -5.5% | -6.8% | -7.4% | UKIP | 58 | 3.6% | -8.8% | -8.7% | from nowhere | from nowhere | Liberal Democrat | 44 | 2.8% | -1.1% | -0.9% | -2.1% | -2.2% | Total votes | 1,598 |
| 43% | 45% | 61% | 62% |
Swing Labour to Conservative ~10½% since 2015 and ~6% / 6¾% since 2011 Council now 30 Labour, 13 Conservative, 8 Resident Groups, 2 Independent, 2 No Description, 1 Liberal Democrat
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The Bishop
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Post by The Bishop on Sept 2, 2016 11:08:05 GMT
Nearly 90% for Con/UKIP combined in the East Dorset seats - nice I think we had a previous discussion on "most right wing locality in Britain" - this area has to be a contender? (and for that matter, most left wing - last week's vacancy in Fife might actually be a candidate there) |
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Post by lbarnes on Sept 2, 2016 12:11:28 GMT
Nearly 90% for Con/UKIP combined in the East Dorset seats - nice I remember Ron Atkinson as manager of West Brom when he said that it had been brilliant to be part of a 9 goal thriller, just after his side had been beaten 8-1. |
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Post by finsobruce on Sept 2, 2016 12:57:40 GMT
Nearly 90% for Con/UKIP combined in the East Dorset seats - nice I remember Ron Atkinson as manager of West Brom when he said that it had been brilliant to be part of a 9 goal thriller, just after his side had been beaten 8-1. I just checked - it was during Atkinson's sojurn as manager of the tricky trees. |
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Post by gwynthegriff on Sept 2, 2016 16:57:59 GMT
Conservative gain in Stockton Time for a prediction competition on the Corbyn fan club excuse? 😕 "Yes, yes, but we won a parish council seat!"  |
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