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Post by Antiochian on Sept 1, 2016 9:46:45 GMT
Bournemouth oozes prosperity like no other coastal city in the UK.... if only the others could be that way...(but not run by Tories...) :-) In an aside I would note how the LibDems have gone from contesting a smattering of seats each week in the last year of Coalition and into 2015 to a position where it is now the exception (or somewhere truly Labour to the core) that we give it a miss.. I'd say Poole (granted not the town centre) actually oozes more prosperity than Bournemouth as it does yachtiness too plus Sandbanks. It has less ropey bits too... Of course your original conceit is slightly off anyway, Bournemouth is not a city.  The High Street of Poole gives Bognor or Hastings a run for their money in the grottiness stakes... and the last time I went there it was a sunny day.. Its quite a paradox.. |
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Post by timokane on Sept 1, 2016 9:58:41 GMT
Bournemouth oozes prosperity like no other coastal city in the UK.... if only the others could be that way...(but not run by Tories...) :-) In an aside I would note how the LibDems have gone from contesting a smattering of seats each week in the last year of Coalition and into 2015 to a position where it is now the exception (or somewhere truly Labour to the core) that we give it a miss.. I'd say Poole (granted not the town centre) actually oozes more prosperity than Bournemouth as it does yachtiness too plus Sandbanks. It has less ropey bits too... Of course your original conceit is slightly off anyway, Bournemouth is not a city. At least we are not as bad as the Yanks. Dodge City springs to mind. Population under 30,000, and more brothels and saloons than religious buildings. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 1, 2016 10:06:29 GMT
I'd say Poole (granted not the town centre) actually oozes more prosperity than Bournemouth as it does yachtiness too plus Sandbanks. It has less ropey bits too... Of course your original conceit is slightly off anyway, Bournemouth is not a city. The High Street of Poole gives Bognor or Hastings a run for their money in the grottiness stakes... and the last time I went there it was a sunny day.. Its quite a paradox.. Poole has been badly impacted by insensitive redevelopment and road construction, and I'd readily concede that much of the shopping area is a bit sad. However, large parts of the historic centre survive intact, and much of the town is rather nice. There are also some excellent pubs and restaurants (often a good guide to a town's essential health). |
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Post by Khunanup on Sept 1, 2016 10:08:20 GMT
I'd say Poole (granted not the town centre) actually oozes more prosperity than Bournemouth as it does yachtiness too plus Sandbanks. It has less ropey bits too... Of course your original conceit is slightly off anyway, Bournemouth is not a city. The High Street of Poole gives Bognor or Hastings a run for their money in the grottiness stakes... and the last time I went there it was a sunny day.. Its quite a paradox.. Look, I can take quite a bit but to insult Hastings (where I grew up most of my childhood, my parents still live and my sister and her family do too) by putting on a par with the shocking Bognor is just too much.  In all seriousness, Bexhill's high street is as similarly unrepresentitive of the place it serves as Poole's and is far worse than Hastings'. Hastings' High Street is of course lovely (including some excellent pubs) being in the Old Town... |
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Post by Arthur Figgis on Sept 1, 2016 10:13:18 GMT
The High Street of Poole gives Bognor or Hastings a run for their money in the grottiness stakes... and the last time I went there it was a sunny day.. Its quite a paradox.. Look, I can take quite a bit but to insult Hastings (where I grew up most of my childhood, my parents still live and my sister and her family do too) by putting on a par with the shocking Bognor is just too much. In all seriousness, Bexhill's high street is as similarly unrepresentitive of the place it serves as Poole's and is far worse than Hastings'. Hastings' High Street is of course lovely (including some excellent pubs) being in the Old Town... Yes, though the last time we went on a pub crawl of Hastings Old Town, it was Hastings ukulele festival, and we kept leaving pubs to escape the damn things! |
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Post by The Bishop on Sept 1, 2016 11:33:41 GMT
I'd say Poole (granted not the town centre) actually oozes more prosperity than Bournemouth as it does yachtiness too plus Sandbanks. It has less ropey bits too... Of course your original conceit is slightly off anyway, Bournemouth is not a city. At least we are not as bad as the Yanks. Dodge City springs to mind. Population under 30,000, and more brothels and saloons than religious buildings. There are smaller cities than that over here? |
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Post by marksenior on Sept 1, 2016 12:07:01 GMT
At least we are not as bad as the Yanks. Dodge City springs to mind. Population under 30,000, and more brothels and saloons than religious buildings. There are smaller cities than that over here? 28 UK cities have populations under 100,000 , 3 under 10,000 , St David's , St Asaph and London |
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Post by Lord Twaddleford on Sept 1, 2016 12:17:46 GMT
The way I see it, I don't care if your settlement has a bloody cathederal, if the population is below 100,000*, it's not a city. Places like Bangor (Wales) and St. Asaph may have "city status", but I have never considered them to be proper cities due to their populations; the former is really more of a small-medium town, whilst the latter is more of a large village/small town.
Also, I wouldn't consider Dodge City to be a proper city either, c.f. the town of Colwyn Bay has a similar population, yet I doubt anyone is in a hurry to call that place a city.
*Though places with a population of 75k plus may be worthy for consideration.
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Post by The Bishop on Sept 1, 2016 12:19:20 GMT
St Asaph is not officially a city IIRC, the same applies to a few other small towns with cathedrals (but not the smallest of all, St Davids)
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Post by marksenior on Sept 1, 2016 12:32:26 GMT
The way I see it, I don't care if your settlement has a bloody cathederal, if the population is below 100,000*, it's not a city. Places like Bangor (Wales) and St. Asaph may have "city status", but I have never considered them to be proper cities due to their populations; the former is really more of a small-medium town, whilst the latter is more of a large village/small town. Also, I wouldn't consider Dodge City to be a proper city either, c.f. the town of Colwyn Bay has a similar population, yet I doubt anyone is in a hurry to call that place a city. *Though places with a population of 75k plus may be worthy for consideration.So London is not a city by your reckoning - weird . |
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Post by Lord Twaddleford on Sept 1, 2016 12:35:00 GMT
The way I see it, I don't care if your settlement has a bloody cathederal, if the population is below 100,000*, it's not a city. Places like Bangor (Wales) and St. Asaph may have "city status", but I have never considered them to be proper cities due to their populations; the former is really more of a small-medium town, whilst the latter is more of a large village/small town. Also, I wouldn't consider Dodge City to be a proper city either, c.f. the town of Colwyn Bay has a similar population, yet I doubt anyone is in a hurry to call that place a city. *Though places with a population of 75k plus may be worthy for consideration.So London is not a city by your reckoning - weird . I assume you're referring to the City of London? At a population of ~8,000, no it wouldn't be. Got to apply criteria consistently. |
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Post by East Anglian Lefty on Sept 1, 2016 20:59:22 GMT
At least we are not as bad as the Yanks. Dodge City springs to mind. Population under 30,000, and more brothels and saloons than religious buildings. There are smaller cities than that over here? I live in one of them. Unfortunately, there may actually be more religious buildings than bars here. Presumably fewer brothels, if the crime statistics are anything to go by. |
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Post by Foggy on Sept 1, 2016 21:31:00 GMT
St Asaph is not officially a city IIRC, the same applies to a few other small towns with cathedrals (but not the smallest of all, St Davids) It had city status restored/reconfirmed in 2012. Before that, the Community Council had branded itself as the 'City of St. Asaph Town Council'. Bangor feels very much like a city to me. |
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Post by Adam in Stroud on Sept 1, 2016 21:48:14 GMT
I'd say Poole (granted not the town centre) actually oozes more prosperity than Bournemouth as it does yachtiness too plus Sandbanks. It has less ropey bits too... Of course your original conceit is slightly off anyway, Bournemouth is not a city. At least we are not as bad as the Yanks. Dodge City springs to mind. Population under 30,000, and more brothels and saloons than religious buildings. Yes, I remember being distinctly puzzled by an American asking me where the city centre was in Stroud. I think we have more pubs than religious buildings, but I've no idea about the brothels. |
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Post by maxque on Sept 1, 2016 21:55:21 GMT
At least we are not as bad as the Yanks. Dodge City springs to mind. Population under 30,000, and more brothels and saloons than religious buildings. Yes, I remember being distinctly puzzled by an American asking me where the city centre was in Stroud. I think we have more pubs than religious buildings, but I've no idea about the brothels. In Quebec, a city is a town with more than 1000 inhabitants. So, the idea of a city is very variable. |
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Post by Foggy on Sept 1, 2016 22:04:34 GMT
Yes, I remember being distinctly puzzled by an American asking me where the city centre was in Stroud. I think we have more pubs than religious buildings, but I've no idea about the brothels. In Quebec, a city is a town with more than 1000 inhabitants. So, the idea of a city is very variable. How are you translating 'city' here?? I thought the only cité was Dorval, for historical reasons, and that any other incorporated settlement is a ville. |
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Post by Adam in Stroud on Sept 1, 2016 22:06:42 GMT
Yes, I remember being distinctly puzzled by an American asking me where the city centre was in Stroud. I think we have more pubs than religious buildings, but I've no idea about the brothels. In Quebec, a city is a town with more than 1000 inhabitants. So, the idea of a city is very variable. Semi-seriously, the population of a lot of city states in ancient and medieval times - Athens at the time of Socrates, or Florence at the time of Lorenzo the Magnificent - is estimated to be pretty small, often less than 100k. Stroud has a population of about 30,000 and its hinterland is the Stroud District Council area (pop c 115,000) so probably similar to one of the smaller city states. Wandering around the market on a Saturday, running into various friends and acquaintances, with open country visible from the centre of town strikes me as in some ways probably similar to life in an old city state. Without the bloodshed and slavery, obviously. |
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Post by Davıd Boothroyd on Sept 1, 2016 22:07:29 GMT
CORNWALL Four Lanes
Nathan Billings (Liberal Democrat) 300
Bernard Webb (Independent) 144
Peter Sheppard (The Conservative Party Candidate) 128
Peter Williams (Labour Party) 125
Christopher Lawrence (Mebyon Kernow – The Party For Cornwall) 111
Dan Hall (UK Independence Party (UKIP)) 57
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Post by Lord Twaddleford on Sept 1, 2016 22:07:36 GMT
Bangor feels very much like a city to me. Yet it has a population comparable to Llandudno and exceeded by Colwyn Bay, and I've never heard anyone describe those places as cities. I suppose the town layout could be a factor. |
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Post by marksenior on Sept 1, 2016 22:09:03 GMT
Lib Dems gain Coenwall Four lanes from UKIP
LD 300
Ind 144
Con 128
Lab 125
Meb K 111
UKIP 57
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