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Post by The Bishop on Aug 27, 2016 9:27:47 GMT
If/when there is a significant downturn in SNP support, it is hard to see SLab not benefiting to some degree - even in its present sorry state.
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Post by Sibboleth on Aug 27, 2016 13:12:35 GMT
They will, at least, win a seat in this ward  |
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Post by middleenglander on Aug 27, 2016 13:21:07 GMT
They will, at least, win a seat in this ward I believe this ward is to be abolished in May and its constituent parts distributed around several others. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 27, 2016 14:40:00 GMT
They will, at least, win a seat in this ward I believe this ward is to be abolished in May and its constituent parts distributed around several others. And they will win seats in all those wards too.  |
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Post by middleenglander on Aug 27, 2016 15:14:53 GMT
I believe this ward is to be abolished in May and its constituent parts distributed around several others. And they will win seats in all those wards too. I am not suggesting they will not. |
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Post by neilm on Aug 27, 2016 19:23:42 GMT
Those Fifeshire mining villages have a charm all their own don't they? That's one way of putting it. My connection to Lochgelly is that whilst canvassing there during the Independence Referendum I found a staunch self-described Thatcherite who was voting 'Yes'. Odd chap. There are many Thatcherite supporters of independence |
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Post by neilm on Aug 27, 2016 19:27:11 GMT
That being said, there were districts in Scotland pre-1975 reform, and one of them was Lochgelly. The district council consisted of the local county councillor and some separately elected district councillors. So I'm not so sure about the correction, given that Lochgelly District (population 27,202 in 1961) was much larger than the Burgh (population 8,021). So how did this work? Some areas didn't have them, but others elected a county councillor and some district councillors? What did they do and why did some places have them and others not? |
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Post by Davıd Boothroyd on Aug 27, 2016 19:41:34 GMT
That being said, there were districts in Scotland pre-1975 reform, and one of them was Lochgelly. The district council consisted of the local county councillor and some separately elected district councillors. So I'm not so sure about the correction, given that Lochgelly District (population 27,202 in 1961) was much larger than the Burgh (population 8,021). So how did this work? Some areas didn't have them, but others elected a county councillor and some district councillors? What did they do and why did some places have them and others not? Scottish county councils also covered the burghs. So there were two different types of members of the county councils - the county councillors in the rural areas outside the burghs were directly elected, but those for the burghs were chosen by the town council of the burgh from among their own number. So rural areas (I think) voted for a single county councillor and a number of district councillors in a joint election. |
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Post by neilm on Aug 27, 2016 19:44:53 GMT
So how did this work? Some areas didn't have them, but others elected a county councillor and some district councillors? What did they do and why did some places have them and others not? Scottish county councils also covered the burghs. So there were two different types of members of the county councils - the county councillors in the rural areas outside the burghs were directly elected, but those for the burghs were chosen by the town council of the burgh from among their own number. So rural areas (I think) voted for a single county councillor and a number of district councillors in a joint election. Aah, I hadn't realised that the counties covered the burghs, believing them to be like English and Welsh county boroughs. |
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Post by AdminSTB on Aug 27, 2016 20:59:42 GMT
Scottish county councils also covered the burghs. So there were two different types of members of the county councils - the county councillors in the rural areas outside the burghs were directly elected, but those for the burghs were chosen by the town council of the burgh from among their own number. So rural areas (I think) voted for a single county councillor and a number of district councillors in a joint election. Aah, I hadn't realised that the counties covered the burghs, believing them to be like English and Welsh county boroughs. If you're interested, the 1970 county council results in Scotland can be found here in the Glasgow Herald Google Archive. Scroll across to page 12 and zoom in. news.google.co.uk/newspapers?nid=GGgVawPscysC&dat=19700514&printsec=frontpage&hl=enFor many years they were held triennially on the second Tuesday in May. The last elections were held in 1973, but there was a large drop in contested seats (page 22): news.google.com/newspapers?nid=GGgVawPscysC&dat=19730510&printsec=frontpage&hl=en |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 27, 2016 22:42:58 GMT
That's one way of putting it. My connection to Lochgelly is that whilst canvassing there during the Independence Referendum I found a staunch self-described Thatcherite who was voting 'Yes'. Odd chap. There are many Thatcherite supporters of independence I've heard Scottish independence described as the 'ultimate privatisation' by such minded supporters. |
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Post by neilm on Aug 27, 2016 23:38:34 GMT
There are many Thatcherite supporters of independence I've heard Scottish independence described as the 'ultimate privatisation' by such minded supporters. Yes, basically. I'm not really a Thatcherite (too socially liberal) but it really appeals to me on Thatcherite grounds. |
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Post by The Bishop on Aug 28, 2016 11:28:44 GMT
Labour candidate Mary Lockhart is the former chair of the Scottish Co-operative Party. For what it's worth, she campaigned for Yes in the referendum and remains pro-independence. It is actually worth a lot as Fife Labour, for what it is worth, is splitting into a Natz and Yoonz thing I think SLab's only viable future is somehow downgrading the constitutional aspect, so that might not be totally a bad thing? |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 28, 2016 12:08:40 GMT
It is actually worth a lot as Fife Labour, for what it is worth, is splitting into a Natz and Yoonz thing I think SLab's only viable future is somehow downgrading the constitutional aspect, so that might not be totally a bad thing? Make it a personal choice and get back to some form of municipal socialism, back to working on the ground, just repairing the effin roads for god sake |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 28, 2016 13:42:00 GMT
I think SLab's only viable future is somehow downgrading the constitutional aspect, so that might not be totally a bad thing? Make it a personal choice and get back to some form of municipal socialism, back to working on the ground, just repairing the effin roads for god sake Are the roads in Labour Fife as bad as in Liberal Fife now then? |
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Post by edinburghtory on Aug 29, 2016 8:30:21 GMT
That's one way of putting it. My connection to Lochgelly is that whilst canvassing there during the Independence Referendum I found a staunch self-described Thatcherite who was voting 'Yes'. Odd chap. There are many Thatcherite supporters of independence That must be why the Scottish Democratic Alliance has been so successful. |
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Post by neilm on Aug 29, 2016 9:35:16 GMT
There are many Thatcherite supporters of independence That must be why the Scottish Democratic Alliance has been so successful. We're all the other side of the border... |
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Post by Kristofer Keane on Aug 29, 2016 9:47:25 GMT
No transfers published yet? If not, I'll email Fife Council. I think I've had to email them before, they're really bad at this...
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Post by Deleted on Aug 29, 2016 11:56:26 GMT
That must be why the Scottish Democratic Alliance has been so successful. We're all the other side of the border... Or in the SNP... |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 29, 2016 18:44:26 GMT
No transfers published yet? If not, I'll email Fife Council. I think I've had to email them before, they're really bad at this... Don't talk down Fife |
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