Ask the Forum thread- psephology

[Merseymike]

Nov 22, 2016 0:18:07 GMT Arthur Figgis said:

Nov 21, 2016 23:11:09 GMT Merseymike said:

While I don't know enough about the case to have any particular view about it, the idea that a group of right wing Tories and Kippers are either independent or wanting her to succeed, hence offering 'helpful' advice, is laughable.

And not one post with any evidence supporting the petition's validity- despite a left-wing lean on this forum.

I wasn't defending what she was saying as I don't know enough about it - but to be frank if I wanted advice I wouldn't seek it from my political opponents. On any topic.

[Arthur Figgis]

Nov 22, 2016 10:52:30 GMT Merseymike said:

Nov 22, 2016 0:18:07 GMT Arthur Figgis said:

And not one post with any evidence supporting the petition's validity- despite a left-wing lean on this forum.

I wasn't defending what she was saying as I don't know enough about it - but to be frank if I wanted advice I wouldn't seek it from my political opponents. On any topic.

I would on something factual- they'd be more likely to find the holes. I could then see if the holes were fixable.

[casualobserver]

When and how did the time limit change for requesting marked registers from 6 months to 12 months please?

[theolo]

Nov 21, 2016 22:50:19 GMT An Sionnach Flannbhuí said:

Nov 16, 2016 21:41:55 GMT manchesterman said:

I think some of the replies to Mandy have been a bit offhand tbf.

If this case has been looked at and successfully gone through pre-trial perhaps there is more to it than the limited evidence Mandy has stated so far. There may be reasons for this, but perhaps Mandy (if she is at liberty to divulge) could give a little more detail in terms of what the Commissioner, who presumably made some sort of statement at the time, gave to assert that there was a "case to answer". We dont really have a lot to go on at the moment...

I would have thought there might be more to it - London elections can be fun - but the whole petition seems to rest on numerical turnout changes and nothing more. As it may be sub judice I make no comment one way or the other.

The full petition is here.

These reasons have already been addressed by the posts here. And she was assistant to "Honest Dawn" Butler MP of whom Barack Obama said "I say to the people of Brent you should have the audacity of hope and when someone asks you can she do it, you respond yes we can."

Here is her Crowdfunder page, complete with entirely appropriate quote from Magna Carta.

The trial, I gather, is from December 8th at Westminster City Hall. Any takers for the stalls? Tickets for the circle, 7/6. Hurry, hurry...

Her Crowdfunder page is currently showing that Mandy has raised £80.00 in 56 days from three supporters. I wonder if any of the three supporters has the initials MR?

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[greenhert]

Sept 26, 2016 14:27:42 GMT Davıd Boothroyd said:

Sept 26, 2016 14:20:11 GMT mrhell said:

I assume he's the same as this 91 year old chap who was in the BNP at some point especially given later comments in this thread. www.stroudnewsandjournal.co.uk/news/8135542.Stroud_general_election_coverage__Alan_Lomas___independent/

Probably. His brief biography in The Times Guide for 1964 goes: "Mr. Alan Lomas is an electrical engineer and former shop steward in the Electrical Trades Union. Born June, 1918; elementary education. Member of Labour Party, 1945-48, joining the Conservatives during the Suez affair."

Alan Ernest Lomas died earlier this year, so you will not be seeing his name on ballot papers in future: www.stroudnewsandjournal.co.uk/announcements/deaths/deaths/14249119.Alan_Ernest_Lomas/

[Adam in Stroud]

Dec 22, 2016 23:50:13 GMT greenhert said:

Sept 26, 2016 14:27:42 GMT Davıd Boothroyd said:

Probably. His brief biography in The Times Guide for 1964 goes: "Mr. Alan Lomas is an electrical engineer and former shop steward in the Electrical Trades Union. Born June, 1918; elementary education. Member of Labour Party, 1945-48, joining the Conservatives during the Suez affair."

Alan Ernest Lomas died earlier this year, so you will not be seeing his name on ballot papers in future: www.stroudnewsandjournal.co.uk/announcements/deaths/deaths/14249119.Alan_Ernest_Lomas/

From the earlier News and Journal article:

The return of capital punishment in schools at the discretion of teachers is among Mr Lomas’ educational preferences

As we approach the season of Childermas I'm sure many of us would vote for that.  One way or another the percentage of children leaving school without a qualification would be dramatically reduced.

[AdminSTB]

Can anyone tell me in which year the last Scottish county council elections were held prior to the outbreak of the Second World War, and whether or not they were always held in December before then?

[finsobruce]

Dec 24, 2016 22:18:15 GMT AdminSTB said:

Can anyone tell me in which year the last Scottish county council elections were held prior to the outbreak of the Second World War, and whether or not they were always held in December before then?

A quick search suggests 1938, and the previous two sets in 1932 and 1935 were certainly in December. Apparently there was a Scottish Local Government Act in 1929 which annoyed a lot of people as it gave powers to the counties which had previously resided with town and district councils. David can probably be more precise... 

[hullenedge]

December 1919, 1922, 1925, 1928...then 1929 (Scottish Reform Act), 1932, 1935 and 1938.

[AdminSTB]

Thank you both. I gather the first ones - held in 1890 - were in February. I've been adding more links to my spreadsheet of old Glasgow Herald articles concerning local election results.

[casualobserver]

Have any local government by-elections ever been held between Christmas and New Year?

[Davıd Boothroyd]

Dec 30, 2016 15:52:25 GMT casualobserver said:

Have any local government by-elections ever been held between Christmas and New Year?

None on Keith Edkins's page since 1996.

[iain]

Jan 8, 2017 18:23:38 GMT ntyuk1707 said:

Does anyone have a link to the notional figures for the 1997 UK boundaries at the 1992 UK general election?

If you go to David Boothroyd's website then you can work them out from the vote changes.

[warofdreams]

Dec 30, 2016 16:22:42 GMT Davıd Boothroyd said:

Dec 30, 2016 15:52:25 GMT casualobserver said:

Have any local government by-elections ever been held between Christmas and New Year?

None on Keith Edkins's page since 1996.

I notice that the last contested Parliamentary by-election held between Christmas and New Year was in St Ives in 1874.  There were some uncontested ones listed as occurring during World War I, but that was merely the nomination deadline - with only one candidate nominated, no contest was needed.

[afleitch]

Does anyone have the what % of constituency x moved into y data from Rallings and Thrasher for the new 1997 seats for Scotland? Can't find the media guide anywhere :/

[Pete Whitehead]

Jan 12, 2017 11:49:35 GMT afleitch said:

Does anyone have the what % of constituency x moved into y data from Rallings and Thrasher for the new 1997 seats for Scotland? Can't find the media guide anywhere :/

I have part of the information - did you want it for any specific seat(s) ?

[afleitch]

Jan 12, 2017 12:12:20 GMT Pete Whitehead said:

Jan 12, 2017 11:49:35 GMT afleitch said:

Does anyone have the what % of constituency x moved into y data from Rallings and Thrasher for the new 1997 seats for Scotland? Can't find the media guide anywhere :/

I have part of the information - did you want it for any specific seat(s) ?

Pretty much all of them for Scotland. So its probably too big a task. I'm working on 'projected ward results' for Scotland from 1974 onwards. I'm wanting to tie this in to the work Rallings and Thrasher did (errors and all) for consistency.

[greenchristian]

I'm wondering which district councils have changed their election cycle at any point back to 1974. Is there an easier way to find this out than trawling through the pdfs of all the results of every local election at electioncentre.co.uk or sending out hundreds of freedom of information requests?

[Crimson King]

do you mean changing (for example) from thirds, to all ups, or would you include councils that had boundary changes and had a change in the cycle after that?

Not that I hav ethe answer to either

[greenchristian]

Jan 12, 2017 18:04:11 GMT Crimson King said:

do you mean changing (for example) from thirds, to all ups, or would you include councils that had boundary changes and had a change in the cycle after that?

Not that I hav ethe answer to either

Both. Though I'd be fine with only getting the first. I suspect that nobody's been keeping track of them, but thought I'd ask in case anybody knows different.