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Post by johnloony on Nov 10, 2024 12:31:30 GMT
I'm sure someone will work out the unique link between the following constituencies : Sevenoaks, East Surrey, Reigate, Barking, Salisbury, Bristol South, Caerphilly, Pontypridd, Llanelli, Sutton Coldfield, Kingston-upon-Hull East, Bootle, Wigan, Ashton-under-Lyne, Stalybridge & Hyde, Rotherham, Bradford South, and South Shields. Tottenham nearly qualifies, but not quite. It's just possible I've forgotten one, but I don't think I have. The “nearly but not quite” clue about Tottenham leads me to notice the fact that the Conservative candidate in Tottenham in 2024 was nearly in 3rd place, but not quite (being slightly outpolled by an Independent candidate). Is that anything to do with it? i.e. the number of votes, or the percentages, or the positions of the parties in nth place, or the closeness of two or more candidates / parties? I’m guessing it’s not, so I’ll carry on thinking The other thought (which I haven’t checked yet) is something to do with the names, ages, genders, or dates of birth, of the MPs, or their predecessors. |
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Post by batman on Nov 10, 2024 13:50:23 GMT
Afraid not, none of those things .
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Post by Pete Whitehead on Nov 10, 2024 14:09:07 GMT
All have had continuous representation by the same party since 1945 but I'm sure there mus be many others in that category
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Post by Pete Whitehead on Nov 10, 2024 14:12:12 GMT
Actually not sure about that as on the same basis that Alan Brown's defection means Tottenham doesn't qualify, George Gardiner's defection to the Referendum party would invalidate Reigate
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Post by batman on Nov 10, 2024 14:33:08 GMT
Basically you’re on the right lines. They are the only remaining constituencies which have existed with the same name in some form or another since 1945, and have been won by the same party in every election since including by-elections. Tottenham nearly qualifies but it had a Haringey prefix for 9 years, and when this was dropped again there was a non-trivial boundary change. Other previous such seats fell in 2024, e.g. Aylesbury.
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Post by Pete Whitehead on Nov 10, 2024 14:35:47 GMT
Basically you’re on the right lines. They are the only remaining constituencies which have existed with the same name in some form or another since 1945, and have been won by the same party in every election since including by-elections. Tottenham nearly qualifies but it had a Haringey prefix for 9 years, and when this was dropped again there was a non-trivial boundary change. Other previous such seats fell in 2024, e.g. Aylesbury. More importantly than that in fact it has only existed as a unified seat since 1950 - before then there were separate North and South constituencies |
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Post by batman on Nov 10, 2024 14:35:49 GMT
Mid Bedfordshire has voted Conservative at every general election, but of course was lost in a by-election. This is also true of Birmingham Ladywood and Labour.
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Post by batman on Nov 10, 2024 14:36:47 GMT
Well corrected on Tottenham. Hopefully my list is correct.
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Post by greatkingrat on Nov 10, 2024 14:37:01 GMT
Even ignoring the prefix, Tottenham was only created in 1950 so would miss out.
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Post by Davıd Boothroyd on Nov 10, 2024 17:35:57 GMT
Is it to do with the number of consecutive, different MPs elected from the same party?
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Post by batman on Nov 10, 2024 17:43:26 GMT
no, see above. These are the only constituencies remaining which have both a ) kept the same name since 1945, even if not the same boundaries and b ) regardless of defections etc., have been won by the same party in every election during that period, including any by-elections. Several dropped off the list this year, such as Aylesbury, Islington North, and West Dorset.
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Post by batman on Nov 10, 2024 17:44:32 GMT
Others stayed with the same party, but the name was changed - Jarrow comes to mind, as that's now in a constituency called Jarrow & Gateshead East.
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Post by batman on Nov 10, 2024 17:45:44 GMT
ANYWAY one more puzzle from me, and that will be it for now - which US state from 1948 voted for a different party from the previous one in every presidential election until the sequence was finally broken by Ronald Reagan in 1984?
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Post by Pete Whitehead on Nov 10, 2024 17:48:53 GMT
Missouri
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Post by Pete Whitehead on Nov 10, 2024 17:51:47 GMT
Actually I don't think it is Missouri but I also don't think that applies to any state
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Post by Pete Whitehead on Nov 10, 2024 17:53:03 GMT
Oh yeah Louisiana
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Post by Pete Whitehead on Nov 10, 2024 17:54:10 GMT
I'm reading a book about the Battle of New Orleans and I was just thinking earlier today what an oddball state Louisiana is
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Post by batman on Nov 10, 2024 18:06:40 GMT
Louisiana is the right answer. 1948 Ind, 1952 D, 1956 R, 1960 D, 1964 R, 1968 Ind, 1972 R, 1976 D, 1980 R. Then Reagan obviously held it in 1984. Since then only 2 wins by Bill Clinton have disturbed the GOP's run of victories.
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Post by batman on Nov 10, 2024 18:08:00 GMT
Actually I don't think it is Missouri but I also don't think that applies to any state Missouri voted Democrat 3 times in a row 1956-1964, and it has now voted Republican in every election since 2000 inclusive. |
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Post by Pete Whitehead on Nov 10, 2024 18:13:37 GMT
Yes - it was very close to flipping in 1960 (ie there was virtually no swing) one of those states along with Illinois and New Jersey that would have changed the outcome. It was also neck and neck again in 1968.
Obama was the first Democrat to be elected to the White House without the support of Missouri
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