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Post by bjornhattan on Sept 23, 2022 13:56:43 GMT
I mean, what's the point? Everybody knows 1997 was a brilliant result for Labour and 2019 a terrible one. A comparison between 2005 and 2017, on the other hand, might be genuinely interesting and instructive. Or a comparison between 1997 and 2019 but with uniform swing applied so Labour are ahead by 13 poins (or behind by 11) in both.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 23, 2022 16:48:26 GMT
I mean, what's the point? Everybody knows 1997 was a brilliant result for Labour and 2019 a terrible one.A comparison between 2005 and 2017, on the other hand, might be genuinely interesting and instructive. The same could arguably be said with regards to certain posters always going on about how the Tories do so much worse in Merseyside compared to 40 years ago. But then, when we next lose a GE I'll probably go on about how the Midlands has swung to the Tories over the long term. Just warning everyone now.
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Post by rockefeller on Sept 25, 2022 3:34:42 GMT
I mean, what's the point? Everybody knows 1997 was a brilliant result for Labour and 2019 a terrible one. Tories lost vote share in Brighton, Pavilion at each election since 1979. Did you know that? Needs a ward swing map.
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Post by The Bishop on Sept 25, 2022 8:52:49 GMT
I mean, what's the point? Everybody knows 1997 was a brilliant result for Labour and 2019 a terrible one. Tories lost vote share in Brighton, Pavilion at each election since 1979. Did you know that? Needs a ward swing map. Yes, because a certain poster on here repeatedly told us
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Post by rockefeller on Sept 25, 2022 8:55:40 GMT
Tories lost vote share in Brighton, Pavilion at each election since 1979. Did you know that? Needs a ward swing map. Yes, because a certain poster on here repeatedly told us Not sure whose decline is more terminal - mine or the Pavilion Tories'
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Post by Georg Ebner on Sept 27, 2022 11:01:15 GMT
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Post by rockefeller on Oct 9, 2022 4:56:39 GMT
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Post by Pete Whitehead on Oct 9, 2022 7:52:22 GMT
1910 surely
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Post by finsobruce on Oct 9, 2022 8:32:42 GMT
In 1918 Henry Croft, previously the Tory MP for Christchurch stood and won as a National Party candidate in the new Bournemouth constituency.
The Bournemouth Guardian reported that "As it is things are rather flat. There is neither a Unionist or Coalition candidate and a good many people are puzzled".
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Post by minionofmidas on Oct 12, 2022 2:35:17 GMT
In 1918 Henry Croft, previously the Tory MP for Christchurch stood and won as a National Party candidate in the new Bournemouth constituency.
The Bournemouth Guardian reported that "As it is things are rather flat. There is neither a Unionist or Coalition candidate and a good many people are puzzled". the party wasn't disbanded until 1921 - when did Croft rejoin the Conservatives? Wikipedia does not say. 1918 in the tweet might well simply refer to the creation of a Bournemouth-named seat...
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Post by Pete Whitehead on Oct 12, 2022 5:54:18 GMT
In 1918 Henry Croft, previously the Tory MP for Christchurch stood and won as a National Party candidate in the new Bournemouth constituency.
The Bournemouth Guardian reported that "As it is things are rather flat. There is neither a Unionist or Coalition candidate and a good many people are puzzled". the party wasn't disbanded until 1921 - when did Croft rejoin the Conservatives? Wikipedia does not say. 1918 in the tweet might well simply refer to the creation of a Bournemouth-named seat... Yes I assumed that was the case but I find it annoying when these kind of statements are made as if an area was not represented unless and until it actually had its name in a constituency. It's like when (as an example of many) some journalist doing a vox pop in West Bromwich referred to West Bromwich East as having previously eleced a Labour MP since 1974, implying that it had been held by a party other than Labour before 1974 (and when the point they are trying to get across is the longevity of the previous Labour representation, but didn't bother to check that it was essentially the same seat as the old West Bromwich and therefore saying 'since 1935' would have emphasised the point better)
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Post by Pete Whitehead on Oct 27, 2022 17:53:32 GMT
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Post by Forfarshire Conservative on Oct 27, 2022 17:58:07 GMT
Thanks for sharing that Pete, that's a fascinating map.
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Post by David Ashforth on Nov 23, 2022 12:27:36 GMT
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Post by bjornhattan on Nov 23, 2022 13:46:22 GMT
That's good fun but the difficulty seems to fluctuate wildly (as you'd expect considering the options are probably randomly generated). I tried the constituency version: one round which was a bit of anonymous suburbia where the possible answers were Ashton under Lyne, Denton and Reddish, or Eltham - pretty tough. But it was followed by an obviously urban seat which was either Lewisham East, Ross Skye and Lochaber, or Argyll and Bute!
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Post by Pete Whitehead on Nov 23, 2022 14:19:31 GMT
The constituencies are easy enough just from the shape anyway. The ward one is made easier by the kind of thing you describe - I got to 20/20 before I got bored. The built up areas one could be interesting.
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Post by andrewp on Nov 23, 2022 14:42:06 GMT
I think I will find the constituencies and LA’s fairly straightforward. Wards and built up areas will be more challenging.
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Post by jamie on Nov 23, 2022 15:52:35 GMT
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Post by xenon on Nov 23, 2022 18:58:13 GMT
I think exercises like this show why approval voting isn't really a feasible system for national elections!
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Post by Sg1 on Nov 24, 2022 0:44:24 GMT
Looks less like likeability and more like the least offensive party. Of course it's going to be the party with the least responsibility and the least experience of being in power.
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