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Post by Pete Whitehead on Dec 14, 2020 20:54:56 GMT
I don't think common sense comes into it, but there is always a reluctance when creating enlarged unitaries to revisit the decisions which created the building blocks in the first place. Therefore Middlewich was in Conkleton district and therefore its in Cheshire East. I've always thought it would have fitted much better with Northwich and Winsford in the old Vale Royal district
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Post by ilerda on Dec 14, 2020 21:01:16 GMT
I don't think common sense comes into it, but there is always a reluctance when creating enlarged unitaries to revisit the decisions which created the building blocks in the first place. Therefore Middlewich was in Conkleton district and therefore its in Cheshire East. I've always thought it would have fitted much better with Northwich and Winsford in the old Vale Royal district This is actually a significant problem when districts are being merged. A town that might have been fairly peripheral in a small district can end up being a world away from the main economic/social/political/cultural centre of a super-district unitary council. Yet it could actually be fairly close and well connected to the major town in a neighbouring unitary it is prevented from being included in by what seemed sensible in 1972.
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Post by gwynthegriff on Dec 14, 2020 21:07:54 GMT
I don't think common sense comes into it, but there is always a reluctance when creating enlarged unitaries to revisit the decisions which created the building blocks in the first place. Therefore Middlewich was in Conkleton district and therefore its in Cheshire East. I've always thought it would have fitted much better with Northwich and Winsford in the old Vale Royal district Middlewich is a tricky one, but I'm pretty sure the wrong decision was made in the 70s. And thus repeated in the 2000s.
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Post by andrewteale on Dec 15, 2020 20:13:24 GMT
Allerdale 2019. Ind 19 C 15 Lab 14 Putting Cumbria First 1. New ward boundaries. Allhallows and Waverton, Boltons, and Marsh and Wampool were uncontested. Split wards in 2019 were: All Saints: 2C/1Lab Aspatria: C/Putting Cumbria First Broughton St Bridgets: Ind/Lab Keswick: 2Lab/1C St John's: 2Ind/1C St Michael's: Ind/Lab Seaton and Northside: 2Ind/1C (the Conservative was future Workington MP Mark Jenkinson, who massively outperformed his running-mates) Wigton and Woodside: 2Lab/1C If any kind people with access to the British Newspaper Archive can please look up a local press report on the Allerdale 2003 election I would be extremely grateful. The election that year for Solway ward took place in June, and I am trying to find out whether this was because (a) a candidate for the May election died, or (b) there weren't any candidates nominated for the May election. Most sources available now suggest (a), but LEAP currently says (b) and I distinctly remember seeing a local press report to back that up.
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The Bishop
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Post by The Bishop on Dec 16, 2020 12:49:10 GMT
I do have a vague recollection of a) actually being correct, but can't say that for certain over 17 years on!
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Post by andrewteale on Dec 16, 2020 19:24:17 GMT
Cheshire West and Chester 2019. Lab 35 C 28 Ind 4 LD 2 Grn 1. New ward boundaries. Note that the Conservatives polled more votes than Labour. Split wards in 2019 were: Great Boughton: Lab/C Hartford and Greenbank: Ind/C Upton: Lab/C Weaver and Cuddington: 1Ind/2C Winsford Over and Verdin: 2Lab/1C By-election results for 2002-09 in Chester and Ellesmere Port and Neston, for 2003-09 in Vale Royal and for 2005-09 to Cheshire county council have also been added to LEAP in this update.
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Post by cibwr on Dec 17, 2020 8:35:54 GMT
I have long supported regional government in Wales - there are city region boards, health authorities, regional fire services, regional police forces, educational consortia and transport consortia, all of which have different boundaries and all of which are made up of people nominated from the counties below. In the interest of democracy I'd have 5 Welsh Regions and about 25 -30 districts below with around 150 - 200 community councils below them. I think what you're getting at is that the borders of those authorities should be consistent instead of having lots of overlaps, so that it's clear who does what and where lines of accountability are drawn. For me, that's more important than how many there are. That also seems quite a low number of community councils, depending on what responsibilities you want them to have. That is why I would have regional authorities that would take over the big ticket functions of the current country councils and all the nominated and regional bodies - with small ticket functions by the existing counties (with some being broken up into their components) and the community councils carrying on as before with counties able to delegate some functions to them... and yes having a multiplicity of bodies all with different boundaries does blur responsibility. I suggest 5 regions, based on the North, Mid and West, Swansea Bay, East Glamorgan and finally Gwent. We have 3 fire and rescue authorities, 4 new regional partnerships, 4 police areas, 7 health authorities, regional consortia for education, city region and growth partnership boards - plus ad hoc arrangements for waste disposal and recycling, its all getting far to complex for even people interested in the mechanisms of governance to keep track.
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Chris from Brum
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Post by Chris from Brum on Dec 17, 2020 11:00:32 GMT
Here's a model for you ...
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Post by Pete Whitehead on Dec 17, 2020 16:43:42 GMT
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Post by andrewteale on Dec 17, 2020 17:56:33 GMT
East Riding 2019. C 49 (-2) Ind 8 (+3) LD 8 (+6) Yorkshire Party 2 (+2) Lab 0 (-6) UKIP 0 (-3). Changes based on 2015: C gain from Ind Goole North (1) C gain from Lab Goole North (1) C gain from UKIP Bridlington North (1) Ind gain from C Dale (1) Ind gain from Lab Goole South (2) Ind gain from UKIP Bridlington Central and Old Town (1) LD gain from C St Mary's (3) Tranby (1) LD gain from Lab Hessle (2) Yorkshire Party gain from Lab Bridlington South (1) Yorkshire Party gain from UKIP Bridlington South (1) Split wards in 2019 were: Bridlington Central and Old Town: Ind/C Bridlington South: 2Yorkshire Party/1C Dale: 1Ind/2C That completes Humberside 2019 on LEAP.
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Post by froome on Dec 17, 2020 18:14:14 GMT
It was good of Trump to build the red wall along the Texas border.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 18, 2020 9:27:51 GMT
The Mormon belt in Idaho and Utah swinging to Trump shows how much of an impact McMullin made in 2016
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Post by Deleted on Dec 18, 2020 17:01:10 GMT
It was good of Trump to build the red wall along the Texas border. Presumably Hispanic voters swinging against the Democrats there, as they did in Florida (?)
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Post by andrewteale on Dec 18, 2020 17:36:01 GMT
Leicester 2019. Lab 53 (+1) LD 1 C 0 (-1). Changes based on 2015: Lab gain from C Knighton (1) Split wards in 2019 were: Aylestone: LD/Lab
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Post by andrewteale on Dec 19, 2020 19:07:03 GMT
Dorset 2019. C 43 LD 29 Grn 4 Ind 4 Lab 2. Split wards in 2019 were: Bridport: 2LD/1Grn Chickerell: C/Ind Corfe Mullen: LD/C Dorchester West: LD/Ind Lytchett Minster and Upton: 1C/2LD Portland: 2Ind/1Lab Rodwell and Wyke: 2Grn/1Lab
This election was for a five-year term and Dorset council's next elections will be in 2024, then 2029.
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Post by andrewteale on Dec 20, 2020 15:08:14 GMT
Stockton-on-Tees 2019. Lab 24 (-8) C 14 (+1) Thornaby Ind Assoc 7 (+4) Ind 6 (+4) Ingleby Barwick Ind Society 3 (-2) LD 2 (+1). Changes based on 2015: C gain from Ingleby Barwick Ind Society Ingleby Barwick East (1) C gain from Lab Grangefield (1) Norton West (2) Ind gain from C Fairfield (2) Yarm (1) Ind gain from Ingleby Barwick Ind Society Ingleby Barwick East (1) LD gain from Lab Bishopsgarth and Elm Tree (1) Thornby Ind Assoc gain from Lab Mandale and Victoria (3) Stainsby Hill (1) Split wards in 2019 were: Grangefield: Lab/C (EDIT added) Ingleby Barwick East: 2C/1Ind Yarm: 1Ind/2C
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Post by Tyrannical Dictator / Tsar on Dec 20, 2020 15:51:49 GMT
I think Ingleby Barwick East is also a split ward.
Thanks for doing all these maps!
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Post by greenhert on Dec 20, 2020 16:42:13 GMT
I think Ingleby Barwick East is also a split ward.
Thanks for doing all these maps!
It is indeed: 2 Con/1 Ind (specifically Ted Strike, the Christian Party candidate for Stockton South in 2010 and the UKIP candidate for Stockton South in 2015).
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Post by andrewteale on Dec 21, 2020 16:59:58 GMT
Mid Devon 2019. C 18 (-10) LD 12 (+7) Ind 10 (+4) Grn 2 (+2) UKIP 0 (-2) Lib 0 (-1). Changes based on 2015: C gain from Ind Cullompton South (1) Grn gain from C Canonsleigh (1) Sandford and Creedy (1) Ind gain from C Cullompton North (1) Cullompton Outer Lower Culm (1) Westexe (1) Ind gain from UKIP Westexe (2) LD gain from C Castle (2) Cranmore (1) Newbrooke Upper Yeo LD gain from Ind Upper Culm (1) LD gain from Lib Silverton Taw was uncontested. Split wards in 2019 were: Canonsleigh: C/Grn Cranmore: 2C/1LD Cullompton South: C/Ind Lower Culm: 2C/1Ind Lowman: 1Ind/2C Sandford and Creedy: C/Grn Upper Culm: LD/C
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Post by andrewteale on Dec 23, 2020 17:25:58 GMT
Yesterday's update, which was finished too late to post here: Wealden 2019. C 34 Ind 5 LD 4 Grn 2. New ward boundaries. Polegate Central was uncontested. No split wards in 2019. In putting that update together it came to my attention that the Labour candidate was missing from the 2003 result for Crowborough North ward. This has now been fixed. And today's map: South Gloucestershire 2019. C 33 LD 17 Lab 11. New ward boundaries. Split wards in 2019 were: Filton: Lab/C
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