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Post by Deleted on Sept 13, 2016 12:32:55 GMT
Other coalitions: Bandić`s MP`s are both members of his party. One is a former HNS member and another is a former SDP member. One of Human Blockade`s MP`s is a member of the anti-banking Franak Association (people who took out loans in the Swiss francs and then had problems repaying them since the exchange rate went up) aligned with Let's Change Croatia (but apparently not an actual member). Two other MPs are Human Blockades founders. The five others are Most outcasts. The three from IDS coalition are from that party and the one from the HDSSB coalition is from that party. Full results (including personal votes): www.izbori.hr/izbori/ws.nsf/A147171239A5875BC125802C004506CF/$FILE/potpuni_rezultati.pdf |
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Post by Georg Ebner on Sept 13, 2016 12:38:15 GMT
The composition of the two big coalitions: HDZ 59 HSLS 1 Brank Hrg (HSS right faction, which didn't team up with the centre-left, rans as an Indie on the HDZ list) 1 SDP 40 HNS 9 HSS 4 HSU 1 May I ask You about Your source? I found at www.maxportal.hr 2 HSLS; 38 SDP, 5 HSS, 2 HSU. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 13, 2016 12:39:14 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Sept 13, 2016 12:39:54 GMT
The composition of the two big coalitions: HDZ 59 HSLS 1 Brank Hrg (HSS right faction, which didn't team up with the centre-left, rans as an Indie on the HDZ list) 1 SDP 40 HNS 9 HSS 4 HSU 1 May I ask You about Your source? I found at www.maxportal.hr 2 HSLS; 38 SDP, 5 HSS, 2 HSU. Croatian poster on AH.com |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 13, 2016 12:53:10 GMT
Regarding the second scenario in the article SDP – Most – IDS – minority MPs their verdict is it will fail because:
a) Milanović is completely unacceptable to Most.
b) Petrov demands the People’s Coalition to get rid of both HNS president Vrdoljak and HSS president Krešo Beljak.
Since Milanović has decided to step down as leader in a few months the first demand wouldn't be a problem, but HNS is a medium sized party and will not be bullied around.
This coalition could likely unite at least 7 of the minority reps (not 100% sure about that Hungarian psychologist), whereas the HDZ/minority coalition could only be sure of the Serbs. Hard to see most of the others support HDZ.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 13, 2016 13:27:44 GMT
Both Ranko Ostojic (53), a Split born war veteran, who was Minister of the Interior 2011-15) and MEP, Foreign Minister (2000-03), and Mayor of Velika Gorica 2005-09. Tonino Picula (55) have declared their candidacy for the SDP leadership after Zoran Milanovic. Both say they will reverse the decline in the party’s popularity by turning it to the left. Though Picula, who was in the inner circle in the early 00s, but was been marginalized since, is considered more left wing and Ostojic closer to Milanovic. Picula is a calm and quiet guy, while Ostojic is assertive and with a temper, so also a significant difference in style. Ostojic is very pro-refugees and made sure to visits lots of refugee camps during the crisis last year. Picula is said to be closer to the centre on that issue.
Picula:
- SDP should represent marginalised and vulnerable people. "They are not the proletariat, we no longer live in an industrial society; post-industrial society brought us the precariat, and we have a situation in which employees in the IT sector eel pressurised and constrained, as do people working in retail chain stores."
- Croatia shall not submit to the financial and banking sectors, but invest in its education system.
Ostojic:
- Important to preserve the SDP and show that it is and will remain “a real social democratic party”. “We're going to deal with our mistakes; we’ll go out and fight.”
- “Zoran Milanovic was and still is a great politician and statesman, and achieved victories of which the SDP could once only dream about.”
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Post by Deleted on Sept 13, 2016 13:31:25 GMT
Will be interesting if those are the only candidates. Picula is highly critical of Most, so if he becomes leader their way back is to max out turnout in the partys traditional strongholds and capture poor voters from Human Blockade and Most. Ostojic will probably do some of the same, but try to keep a door open for cooperating with Most if need be.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 15, 2016 20:18:53 GMT
The most hardcore right-wingers in the HDZ group: - Former Minister of Culture Zlatko Hasanbegovic (yes, the Muslim Croatian ultranationalist historian instigating a red scare witching on the public broadcaster - see earlier in thread). - Equally controversial historian Bruna Esih (not actually a member of HDZ). Esih is president of "Croatian Stages of the Cross", an NGO that organises annual commemorations of the partisans massacre of fleeing Croatian fascists in 1945 at Bleiburg in Austria (commenting the fallen fascists, not the partisans  ). When President Kolinda Grabar Kitarovic posthumously honoured prominent anti-fascist fighter Ljubomir Drndic Esih wrote that Drndic’s surviving daughter did to have "the right to contaminate the Croatian public space with her father’s past". Also involved in drafting a law on dealing with the communist past in the last government, which the media nicknamed "the lustration law". - Stevo Culej has re-entered parliament. Recently said on Facebook that the ethnic Roma MP Veljko Kajtazi "lies like a Serbian Gypsy" (obviously the worst kind of Gypsies.. ) and "lies and works on the behalf of Croat-haters". Declined to apologize. None of these candidates were high up on the party's lists, but benefitted preferential voting. Unlike the last government no far-right parties, such as the Croatian Party of Rights "Ante Starcevic", HSP AS, or Hrast will be part of a new HDZ/Most coalition, but HDZ has a few far right types themselves. One former far-rightist has re-entered parliament by quickly switching party. The former MP of the Croatian Party of Rights 'Ante Starcevic' (HSP AS) Ivan Kirin only joined HDZ in August. On Plenkovic being a moderate a Croatian political analyst has said that: "No one has any clue what Plenkovic actually represents since his tactic is not to say anything in terms of content, but only to say those things that could appeal to the biggest possible number of voters who are not leftists. His real position will be known only when and if he becomes Croatia's next Prime Minister." "Plenkovic had put up all these candidates to test the popular strength of the far-right vote – which subsequently showed that Hasanbegovic was not that popular – and also to show the hardline right-wing voters that the party hasn’t given up on ideological debates." Also: "Esih is decent in the way she speaks, if what she says is a little less decent ... unlike Culej". |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 16, 2016 22:54:12 GMT
SDSS leader Milorad Pupovac leader says he is ready to support HDZ leader Andrej Plenkovic as PM if they exclude "right wingers" - and in particular former culture minister, Zlatko Hasanbegovic - from the government.
Other demands:
- reforms in the judiciary, public administration, public companies and in defining economic policy.
- policies to integrate national minorities and enable equal regional development for regions with sizable national minorities.
Hasanbegovic: “I'm not sure what these conditions are that Pupovac set, but I'm sure that he definitely won’t decide on the candidates for the future Croatian government”
All national minority MPs have agreed to act as a single bloc and together decide whether to join the government.
Will be an odd match if they do. During the previous government HDZ SG Milijan Brkic told Pupovac “to go there where he doesn’t feel threatened” if he felt threatened in Croatia. Now they might sit in the same government.
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Post by Georg Ebner on Sept 18, 2016 11:06:13 GMT
Odo, I didn't find a croatian site www.ah.com, did You mean another address? Between, You too were interested in the parties on the ZZ-list and I found out, that 2 of the 3 incumbent MPs from "CroatianChange" ("PromijeminoHrvatska") were reelected. |
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Post by Georg Ebner on Sept 28, 2016 13:59:46 GMT
2015 (I posted these results in the "Croatia"-thread, but forgot to exclude - few - SpezialVotes):  |
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Post by Georg Ebner on Sept 28, 2016 14:10:59 GMT
By the way: It's the best maps I know - because it's the only ones!
And the ElectoralCommission was inable the publish the county-results (or the municipality-ones on excel), thus I had to print all 4.. municipalities (6cm) and add them up myself.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 8, 2016 22:53:03 GMT
HDZ leader Andrej Plenkovic will be named PM-designate on Monday by President Kolinda Grabar Kitarovic after agreeing with Most and now has the support of 90 MPs. 61 HDZ & partners, 13 Most, 8 national minorities and 2 MB365 + 6 members of the SDPs People’s Coalition: 5 Croatian Peasants’ Party (HSS) and 1 Croatian Pensioners Party (HSU).
Most’s president Bozo Petrov will chair parliament for the first two years of the parliament, and HDZ’s candidate former foreign minister Gordan Jandrokovic in the last two years of the term.
Most will get four ministers: A deputy PM, who will also be Minister of State Administration + Interior, Justice, and Environment & Energy.
The other three deputy PMs will be HDZ political secretary and Plenkovic’s right hand man Davor Ivo Stier, finance minister Zdravko Maric and Davor Bozinovic, who is a former defence minister.
Plenkovic has a maximum of 60 days for his government to be voted in by parliament, but has announced that his government will be voted in at the first session of parliament on Friday.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 8, 2016 22:59:33 GMT
The opposition:
SDP and HNS with 48 combined (I still haven't found the distribution)
Human Blockade 8
IDS 3
HDSSB 1
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Post by Georg Ebner on Oct 26, 2016 1:36:29 GMT
The Plenkovic-cabinet received 91 endorsements (HDZ, MOST, Bandic, HDSSB, minorities and HSS [temporarily]) against 45, so at the end (sive: beginning) a broad 2/3-majority!
The exHDZ exGeneral elected by the diaspora is said to encourage Hasanbegovic and other RightWingers to defect from HDZ, but those prefer to wait...
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). When President Kolinda Grabar Kitarovic posthumously honoured prominent anti-fascist fighter Ljubomir Drndic Esih wrote that Drndic’s surviving daughter did to have "the right to contaminate the Croatian public space with her father’s past". Also involved in drafting a law on dealing with the communist past in the last government, which the media nicknamed "the lustration law".
