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Post by Davıd Boothroyd on May 4, 2023 22:07:01 GMT
What's the equivalent list for Labour? A lot more difficult since at Labour's lowest point (2009-10) there were still more than 40 Labour councils (may be wrong as that figure is plucked from vague memory). I'll see if I can compile a list.
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Post by Davıd Boothroyd on May 7, 2023 10:18:45 GMT
Initial trawl. I reckon there were only 28 29 councils which held a Labour majority at all points from 1997 through to 2010, and they were:
Barking and Dagenham Barnsley Bolsover Copeland Corby Darlington Durham Gateshead Glasgow Greenwich Halton Haringey Knowsley Manchester Neath Port Talbot Newham North East Derbyshire North Lanarkshire Nottingham Rotherham Salford Sandwell South Tyneside Stevenage Sunderland Tameside Tower Hamlets Wakefield Wigan
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May 7, 2023 10:21:07 GMT
Post by The Bishop on May 7, 2023 10:21:07 GMT
Newham?
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May 7, 2023 10:32:02 GMT
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Post by edgbaston on May 7, 2023 10:32:02 GMT
It may have been mentioned before, but if not, in 1995 the Tories retained control in Spelthorne despite polling fewer votes than Labour. Also in 2011 Labour won a majority of 1 on North Warwickshire despite Conservatives polling more votes across the borough. I'm sure there's many other examples. www.andrewteale.me.uk/leap/results/2007/113/
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Post by Davıd Boothroyd on May 7, 2023 10:34:50 GMT
Croydon is a good example - Labour majorities in 1994, 1998 and 2002 despite large Conservative vote leads.
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Post by Davıd Boothroyd on May 7, 2023 15:18:58 GMT
Of the 29 councils which had a Labour majority at all times between 1997 and 2010, I count 18 of them where a Labour majority has also been maintained at all times since 2010:
Barking and Dagenham Barnsley Gateshead Greenwich Halton Haringey Knowsley Manchester Newham Nottingham Salford Sandwell South Tyneside Stevenage Sunderland Tameside Wakefield Wigan
In eight cases, Labour has lost the council since 2010.
Copeland: Independent/Conservative Mayor 2015-23; council now abolished Darlington: Conservative minority administration 2019-? Durham: Liberal Democrat coalition administration 2021- Glasgow: Scottish National Party administration 2017- Neath Port Talbot: Independent led coalition administration 2022- North East Derbyshire: Conservative administration 2019-23 North Lanarkshire: Labour majority lost 2017; Scottish National Party administration May - August 2022 Tower Hamlets: Independent/TH First/Aspire Mayor 2010-15, 2022-; Aspire majority 2022-
There are also three doubtful cases.
Bolsover: Labour lost majority 2019 although remained as minority administration; byelection gain restored Labour majority 2021 Corby: The council was abolished in 2021; the successor North Northamptonshire is Conservative run Rotherham: Labour consistently held a majority but the council was under the control of Commissioners 2015-19
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Post by The Bishop on May 7, 2023 15:32:31 GMT
Bolsover and Corby clearly don't count IMO - Rotherham arguably does despite the administrators.
Copeland also returned a Labour councillor majority in all elections until the final one in 2019, and its Cumberland successor is Labour run.
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Post by andrewp on May 7, 2023 15:46:57 GMT
Of the 29 councils which had a Labour majority at all times between 1997 and 2010, I count 18 of them where a Labour majority has also been maintained at all times since 2010: Barking and Dagenham Barnsley Gateshead Greenwich Halton Haringey Knowsley Manchester Newham Nottingham Salford Sandwell South Tyneside Stevenage Sunderland Tameside Wakefield Wigan In eight cases, Labour has lost the council since 2010. Copeland: Independent/Conservative Mayor 2015-23; council now abolished Darlington: Conservative minority administration 2019-? Durham: Liberal Democrat coalition administration 2021- Glasgow: Scottish National Party administration 2017- Neath Port Talbot: Independent led coalition administration 2022- North East Derbyshire: Conservative administration 2019-23 North Lanarkshire: Labour majority lost 2017; Scottish National Party administration May - August 2022 Tower Hamlets: Independent/TH First/Aspire Mayor 2010-15, 2022-; Aspire majority 2022- There are also three doubtful cases. Bolsover: Labour lost majority 2019 although remained as minority administration; byelection gain restored Labour majority 2021 Corby: The council was abolished in 2021; the successor North Northamptonshire is Conservative run Rotherham: Labour consistently held a majority but the council was under the control of Commissioners 2015-19 Are those 18 also the list of authorities that have had continuous Labour majorities since 1974?
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Post by Davıd Boothroyd on May 7, 2023 15:54:56 GMT
I'd have to go through in detail but Nottingham and Tameside both had Conservative councils in the 1970s.
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Post by maxque on May 7, 2023 16:52:50 GMT
Of the 29 councils which had a Labour majority at all times between 1997 and 2010, I count 18 of them where a Labour majority has also been maintained at all times since 2010: Barking and Dagenham Barnsley Gateshead Greenwich Halton Haringey Knowsley Manchester Newham Nottingham Salford Sandwell South Tyneside Stevenage Sunderland Tameside Wakefield Wigan In eight cases, Labour has lost the council since 2010. Copeland: Independent/Conservative Mayor 2015-23; council now abolished Darlington: Conservative minority administration 2019-? Durham: Liberal Democrat coalition administration 2021- Glasgow: Scottish National Party administration 2017- Neath Port Talbot: Independent led coalition administration 2022- North East Derbyshire: Conservative administration 2019-23 North Lanarkshire: Labour majority lost 2017; Scottish National Party administration May - August 2022 Tower Hamlets: Independent/TH First/Aspire Mayor 2010-15, 2022-; Aspire majority 2022- There are also three doubtful cases. Bolsover: Labour lost majority 2019 although remained as minority administration; byelection gain restored Labour majority 2021 Corby: The council was abolished in 2021; the successor North Northamptonshire is Conservative run Rotherham: Labour consistently held a majority but the council was under the control of Commissioners 2015-19 According to the wiki: Barking and Dagenham: Lab since 1964 Barnsley: Lab since 1974 (came 1 seat away from NOC in 2008) Gateshead: Lab since 1974 Greenwich: Voted Conservative in 1968, not since 1974 Halton: Lab since 1974 Haringey: Voted Conservative in 1968, not since 1974 Knowsley: Lab since 1974 Manchester: Lab since 1974 Newham: Was NOC for the 1968-1971 term, not since 1974 Nottingham: Conservative run from 1976 to 1979 and from 1987 to 1988, NOC from 1988 to 1991Salford: Lab since 1974 Sandwell: Con administration from 1978 to 1979. South Tyneside: NOC from 1978 to 1979Stevenage: Lab since 1974 Sunderland: Lab since 1974 Tameside: Conservative run from 1976 to 1979Wakefield: Lab since 1974 Wigan: Lab since 1974.
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Post by maxque on May 7, 2023 16:55:28 GMT
On the dubious cases, Corby was Conservative-run from 1976 to 1979
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Post by manchesterman on May 16, 2023 22:46:19 GMT
Can help if we do footballers rather than politicians Mike England > Wales Gary Wales > Scotland jason Scotland > trinidad & tobago could also have Paul France (who was an English pro footballer but never played for England) ..I'm sure there are others.
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Post by David Ashforth on May 17, 2023 23:49:56 GMT
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Post by greenhert on May 29, 2023 10:31:07 GMT
MPs who announced they were standing down but never actually got to retire (they died before polling day of the next election):
Nicholas Baker Paul Flynn Eric Heffer Piara Khabra John Silkin John Stradling Thomas David Taylor
Who else?
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Post by batman on May 29, 2023 11:49:37 GMT
Rudi Vis is certainly another example. Marsha Singh announced his resignation but died before it took effect IIRC too
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Post by greatkingrat on May 29, 2023 12:07:27 GMT
Rudi Vis is certainly another example. Marsha Singh announced his resignation but died before it took effect IIRC too Rudi Vis died three weeks after the 2010 general election.
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Post by johnloony on May 29, 2023 13:50:13 GMT
Rudi Vis is certainly another example. Marsha Singh announced his resignation but died before it took effect IIRC too Marsha Singh died 4 months after his resignation, and 3 months after the by-election to replace him. Anyway, Nicholas Fairbairn.
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Post by batman on May 29, 2023 14:39:18 GMT
Hadn't remembered he had announced his retirement but no doubt you're right.
I had thought that Vis had died before the general election but clearly not.
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Post by Davıd Boothroyd on May 29, 2023 14:49:09 GMT
Sir Arthur Irvine Norman Pentland John Rankin
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