Dutch referendum on Ukraine and the EU

[right]

Not seen anything here. Could be very important to the UK result if they vote No.

Seems to be a lack of interest in Holland. A Dutch resident friend of mine hasn't mentioned it, although has talked about the British referendum a few times.

[Dan]

Background reading

[right]

Mar 11, 2016 9:44:43 GMT Dan said:

Background reading

Thank you.

So a low turnout could scupper it and it's non binding.

What effect would a No vote (if widely reported) have in the UK? It could be fun to see Leave argue that Continentals made their arguments more respectable and Stay saying that you shouldn't listen to foreigners.

Would a Yes vote have ANY effect on the UK referendum?

[john07]

Mar 12, 2016 6:49:38 GMT right said:

Mar 11, 2016 9:44:43 GMT Dan said:

Background reading

Thank you.

So a low turnout could scupper it and it's non binding.

What effect would a No vote (if widely reported) have in the UK? It could be fun to see Leave argue that Continentals made their arguments more respectable and Stay saying that you shouldn't listen to foreigners.

Would a Yes vote have ANY effect on the UK referendum?

To have any effect people would firstly have to know about it and secondly give a shit.

Neither appears to apply.

[right]

Mar 13, 2016 21:03:43 GMT john07 said:

Mar 12, 2016 6:49:38 GMT right said:

Thank you.

So a low turnout could scupper it and it's non binding.

What effect would a No vote (if widely reported) have in the UK? It could be fun to see Leave argue that Continentals made their arguments more respectable and Stay saying that you shouldn't listen to foreigners.

Would a Yes vote have ANY effect on the UK referendum?

To have any effect people would firstly have to know about it and secondly give a shit.

Neither appears to apply.

True, it 3ould depend on Leave getting the word out and they didn't on the Danish vote last year.

However, the Danish Maastricht referendum had an electric effect on the Maastricht rebellion here.

[john07]

Mar 28, 2016 17:40:58 GMT @pjones said:

Opinion polling for the referendum





stukroodvlees.nl/peilingen-oekraine-referendum-lastig-vergelijkbaar-maar-gunstigst-voor-tegen-kamp/

Well that explains it all.

I haven't an arse clue about what it is all about.

Still less about what the hell it has to do with the UK, the EU, or anything?

[Dan]

Mar 28, 2016 21:53:12 GMT john07 said:

Well that explains it all.

I haven't an arse clue about what it is all about.

Still less about what the hell it has to do with the UK, the EU, or anything?

This tells you what you need to know:

Mar 11, 2016 9:44:43 GMT Dan said:

Background reading

[john07]

Mar 28, 2016 21:58:22 GMT Dan said:

Mar 28, 2016 21:53:12 GMT john07 said:

Well that explains it all.

I haven't an arse clue about what it is all about.

Still less about what the hell it has to do with the UK, the EU, or anything?

This tells you what you need to know:

Mar 11, 2016 9:44:43 GMT Dan said:

Background reading

A referendum in Holland about a proposed relationship between the EEA and Ukraine is of absolutely no relevance to the issue of the UK remaining in the EU.

I can't read Dutch so the poll on the website was of no meaning to me anyway. I suspect that the OP hasn't a clue what it means either. Otherwise he would have posted a precis.

This thread is disappearing up its own orifice.

[Dan]

Mar 28, 2016 22:06:55 GMT john07 said:

A referendum in Holland about a proposed relationship between the EEA and Ukraine is of absolutely no relevance to the issue of the UK remaining in the EU.

This is the 'International Elections' thread and so doesn't, as I understand it, require there to be a direct link to UK-related matters.

Mar 28, 2016 22:06:55 GMT john07 said:

I can't read Dutch so the poll on the website was of no meaning to me anyway. I suspect that the OP hasn't a clue what it means either. Otherwise he would have posted a precis.

The top line gives a broad indication of current popular opinion on the referendum - 60%/40% against.

Mar 28, 2016 22:06:55 GMT john07 said:

This thread is disappearing up its own orifice.

I suspect that you're letting your opinion on @pjones work elseware on this forum cloud your judgement re. this thread. One of the site's qualities is that there is is almost no matter too niche not to warrant a thread. I hope the moderators can allow it to stay that way for some more time.

[john07]

Mar 28, 2016 22:22:14 GMT Dan said:

Mar 28, 2016 22:06:55 GMT john07 said:

A referendum in Holland about a proposed relationship between the EEA and Ukraine is of absolutely no relevance to the issue of the UK remaining in the EU.

This is the 'International Elections' thread and so doesn't, as I understand it, require there to be a direct link to UK-related matters.

Mar 28, 2016 22:06:55 GMT john07 said:

I can't read Dutch so the poll on the website was of no meaning to me anyway. I suspect that the OP hasn't a clue what it means either. Otherwise he would have posted a precis.

The top line gives a broad indication of current popular opinion on the referendum - 60%/40% against.

Mar 28, 2016 22:06:55 GMT john07 said:

This thread is disappearing up its own orifice.

I suspect that you're letting your opinion on @pjones work elseware on this forum cloud your judgement re. this thread. One of the site's qualities is that there is is almost no matter too niche not to warrant a thread. I hope the moderators can allow it to stay that way for some more time.

There is no problem with discussing this issue. I am sure it is important.

What I cannot grasp is the context to the original poster's comment:

Could be very important to the UK result if they vote No.

[Dan]

"Eurocrats investigate deal backed by Nigel Farage behind Dutch referendum"

story

[carlton43]

Apr 6, 2016 9:34:59 GMT Dan said:

"Eurocrats investigate deal backed by Nigel Farage behind Dutch referendum"

story

The utter brass neck of the sods in the EU to complain about funding campaigns to try to influence results. They do it all the time!  

[Davıd Boothroyd]

30% turnout threshold, remember.

[Deleted]

Apr 6, 2016 19:58:36 GMT Davıd Boothroyd said:

30% turnout threshold, remember.

32% in the exit poll, so should be fine

[Deleted]

30.8% counted.

37.5% for
61.7% against

Turnout: 31.8%

Turnout figure includes Rotterdam, but excludes Utrecht, The Hague and Amsterdam. Might dip under 30% if these are included. Turnout in Noord-Brabant seems low too. Though still most likely to end up with 30%+

[carlton43]

Excellent result. Well done the Dutch. Let's get another crowbar in the splintering case as soon as we can.

Short Live the EU.

[Deleted]

[carlton43]

Apr 6, 2016 22:37:20 GMT @odo said:

Which one is the poxy little blue island and why?
Assume the blue areas are urban and tend to the left or stuffed with foreigners? 

[Deleted]

Putin must be laughing all the way to the offshore shell company in Panama.

[Dan]

Apr 6, 2016 21:44:20 GMT carlton43 said:

Excellent result. Well done the Dutch.

Brexit supporters showing off their outward facing, internationalist world view again.