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Post by therealriga on Jul 10, 2017 18:29:37 GMT
Mine ended up preserving 4 seats in Belfast. I'd post the image here but don't know how to. "Insert image" above asks for a weblink.
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Post by jamie on Jul 11, 2017 21:05:02 GMT
 ![]() ![]()  The seats are as follows: Fermanagh and Dungannon Omagh Foyle Glenshane North Antrim and Coleraine Mid Antrim East Antrim South Antrim and Lisburn Belfast North Belfast South West Belfast East North Down East Down South Down West Down Newry and Armagh Upper Bann Mostly happy with map, particularly in the West, most of Antrim, and most of Down. Not thrilled with South Antrim and Lisburn but necessary for the western seats and greater Belfast. The natural boundaries of Belfast (river Lagan and strictly separate communities) make for a Unionist gerrymander which can't be helped, though it could be a dummymander with widespread tactical voting. In terms of electoral results, the following seats are notable: Fermanagh and Dungannon would slip into safe Sinn Fein with addition of ultra-Catholic areas north of Dungannon. Foyle would be very ultra-marginally SDLP. East Antrim is the UUPs best hope for a seat, it is essentially their best areas of South Antrim (which they lost this year) and East Antrim (where they gained a 2nd MLA in March) but on current polling they wouldn't be able to win it. Belfast North would be safe DUP with reunification of greater Shankill. East Belfast is vulnerable to Alliance tactical voting, dependent on unionist turnout. North Down gains very strong DUP area so they may well have won it on June's result. South Down would likely be SDLP, particularly with Unionist tactical voting. However, Unionist pact could just squeeze in through the middle due to gaining unionist areas from Strangford and losing some nationalist areas to Newry and Armagh. Result: Total: DUP - 10 (7 -11) Sinn Fein - 5 (5-7) SDLP - 2 (0-2) Alliance - 0 (0-1) UUP - 0 (0-1) |
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Post by East Anglian Lefty on Jul 12, 2017 10:46:46 GMT
4. That's the west of Northern Ireland for you. The road between Dungiven and Strabane is not that bad ! Yes, it bloody well is. That's not the worst bit of road round there by a long way. |
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Post by Sibboleth on Jul 12, 2017 20:43:17 GMT
Why not just disenfranchise Catholics again. Nothing's too good for the DUP...  Yeah this is a bit... blatant. And given Northern Ireland's history really not a very clever idea at all. |
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Post by lancastrian on Jul 12, 2017 21:15:43 GMT
In reference to the plan posted by ntyuk1707 , Belfast is just wrong, I quite like the neatness of the Down/Armagh arrangement compared to the more likely options, but it's a blatant gerrymander. Might quickly become a dummymander anyway. The Sinn Fein MP for Newtownards would be interesting. |
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Post by obsie on Jul 13, 2017 2:20:14 GMT
In reference to the plan posted by ntyuk1707 , Belfast is just wrong, I quite like the neatness of the Down/Armagh arrangement compared to the more likely options, but it's a blatant gerrymander. Might quickly become a dummymander anyway. The Sinn Fein MP for Newtownards would be interesting. Armagh City's transport links go in pretty much all directions (north-eastwards towards Portadown, south-eastwards towards Markethill/Newry, north-westwards towards Dungannon, south-westwards towards Monaghan) - except towards Banbridge. Amusing though it might be, I couldn't see the East Down seat backfiring. |
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Post by obsie on Jul 13, 2017 2:23:36 GMT
4. That's the west of Northern Ireland for you. The road between Dungiven and Strabane is not that bad ! Yes, it bloody well is. That's not the worst bit of road round there by a long way. The Derry/Tyrone border is pretty logical in that part of the world. Sending people across the Sperrins is not something you should do if you can avoid it. |
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Post by Sibboleth on Jul 13, 2017 2:56:58 GMT
 BELFAST CENTRAL BELFAST NORTH BELFAST SOUTH EAST BELFAST WEST AND LISBURN |
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Post by Ghyl Tarvoke on Jul 13, 2017 16:33:37 GMT
Sorry, folks, a question: How do you upload your 'work' on Boundary Assistant to here? Do you convert into a jpg or how?
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Post by Lord Twaddleford on Jul 13, 2017 20:29:04 GMT
Sorry, folks, a question: How do you upload your 'work' on Boundary Assistant to here? Do you convert into a jpg or how? I think most of us just take a screenshot, crop out the extraneous details, and then upload to a suitable host. |
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Post by obsie on Jul 13, 2017 22:33:08 GMT
The Derry/Tyrone border is pretty logical in that part of the world. Sending people across the Sperrins is not something you should do if you can avoid it. Now that's just Derrymandering... [Gets coat] Or Londonderrymandering, depending on your taste... |
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Post by Pete Whitehead on Aug 25, 2017 12:40:58 GMT
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Post by Pete Whitehead on Sept 5, 2017 6:08:28 GMT
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Post by timrollpickering on Oct 6, 2017 8:46:44 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Jan 17, 2018 12:09:45 GMT
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Post by Davıd Boothroyd on Jan 17, 2018 12:13:42 GMT
And yet again the BCNI reaching outside Belfast to justify keeping four Belfast seats.
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Post by boondock on Jan 17, 2018 14:47:58 GMT
The DUP couldn't have done a better job themselves. South, east and north belfast all at risk safely shored up. North down also looking good for them instead of sylvia. Quite different from the first proposals which were more favourable to nationalists. The boundary commission have some explaining to do. The gerrymandering of Belfast is astonishing, with West Belfast conveniently becoming even more nationalist with shankill being shifted North to save Dodds. The logical rejig was always a 3 seat Belfast this 4 seat alternative has DUP pressure all over it |
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Post by greatkingrat on Jan 17, 2018 14:50:08 GMT
That looks similar to the DUP counter proposal, have reports of the reviews demise been exaggerated?
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Post by Pete Whitehead on Jan 17, 2018 15:18:53 GMT
I still hope that the boundary review will be aborted, but if it does go ahead this will make it a lot more palatable. The original proposals for NI must have been drawn up by Sinn Fein as they were a perfect gerrymander from their point of view. It's amusing to see their supporters squeeling about gerrymandering in reply to that tweet now.
Still, doesn't help Harrow..
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Post by sisterjude on Jan 17, 2018 15:25:04 GMT
The boundary commission basically handed Arlene a pencil and said 'go wild'. A four seat Belfast when the (recently expanded) council boundaries don't even add up to a full three quotas is indefensible.
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