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Post by Beaumont on Nov 29, 2015 1:19:27 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Nov 29, 2015 9:42:22 GMT
I've been going through the Tendring results: I hadn't realised that Peter Balbirnie (sometime council chairman) had actually started out being elected for the Liberal-SDP Alliance in St Osyth & Point Clear in 1983, before being elected as an Independent Conservative in Little Clacton in 1987 and 1991. He was then elected as a Conservative in 1999 for the same ward, then as a Conservative in Little Clacton & Weeley in 2003 (following boundary changes), for Tendring First in that ward in 2007 & 2011, finally being defeated by 1 UKIP and 1 Conservative in 2015. Interesting to note that he never managed more than two successful elections with any one party. Another interesting series of results seem to be the movement of a "Turner, G." (no idea if all are the same person but the evidence would appear to support this interpretation): 1973: unsuccessful Labour candidate for Great & Little Oakley (Ind victory) 1976: no appearance 1979: elected Independent Labour candidate for Great & Little Oakley 1983: unsuccessful Lib/SDP candidate for Ramsey & Parkeston (Lab victory) 1987: unsuccessful Lib/SDP candidate for Great & Little Oakley (Con victory) 1991, 1995, 1999: no appearance 2003: unsuccessful Labour candidate for Great & Little Oakley (Con victory; cross-checking this gives Graham as the forename) 2007, 2011, 2015: no appearance Photo in the Guardian in Tendrig by none other than Graham Turner. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 29, 2015 9:53:50 GMT
I've been going through the Tendring results: I hadn't realised that Peter Balbirnie (sometime council chairman) had actually started out being elected for the Liberal-SDP Alliance in St Osyth & Point Clear in 1983, before being elected as an Independent Conservative in Little Clacton in 1987 and 1991. He was then elected as a Conservative in 1999 for the same ward, then as a Conservative in Little Clacton & Weeley in 2003 (following boundary changes), for Tendring First in that ward in 2007 & 2011, finally being defeated by 1 UKIP and 1 Conservative in 2015. Interesting to note that he never managed more than two successful elections with any one party. Another interesting series of results seem to be the movement of a "Turner, G." (no idea if all are the same person but the evidence would appear to support this interpretation): 1973: unsuccessful Labour candidate for Great & Little Oakley (Ind victory) 1976: no appearance 1979: elected Independent Labour candidate for Great & Little Oakley 1983: unsuccessful Lib/SDP candidate for Ramsey & Parkeston (Lab victory) 1987: unsuccessful Lib/SDP candidate for Great & Little Oakley (Con victory) 1991, 1995, 1999: no appearance 2003: unsuccessful Labour candidate for Great & Little Oakley (Con victory; cross-checking this gives Graham as the forename) 2007, 2011, 2015: no appearance Photo in the Guardian in Tendrig by none other than Graham Turner Graham Turner is the chap on the far right of this 1980s photo of Guardian staff.  |
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Post by East Anglian Lefty on Nov 29, 2015 10:26:43 GMT
I've found a "Radical Liberal" in Braintree,Castle Hedingham (1976) "Socialist Unity" candidate in Basingstoke, Norden (1978) ILP candidate in Cambridge, Cherry Hinton (1973) The same guy was was elected as a Labour candidate in 1957, 1960, 1963, 1966 and 1971 but defeated as an ILP candidate in 1969. I'm not sure what the story is there but I vaguely know one of the candidates who beat him in 1973 and I'll have to ask him if he can remember the context some time. I've been going through the Tendring results: I hadn't realised that Peter Balbirnie (sometime council chairman) had actually started out being elected for the Liberal-SDP Alliance in St Osyth & Point Clear in 1983, before being elected as an Independent Conservative in Little Clacton in 1987 and 1991. He was then elected as a Conservative in 1999 for the same ward, then as a Conservative in Little Clacton & Weeley in 2003 (following boundary changes), for Tendring First in that ward in 2007 & 2011, finally being defeated by 1 UKIP and 1 Conservative in 2015. Interesting to note that he never managed more than two successful elections with any one party. Another interesting series of results seem to be the movement of a "Turner, G." (no idea if all are the same person but the evidence would appear to support this interpretation): 1973: unsuccessful Labour candidate for Great & Little Oakley (Ind victory) 1976: no appearance 1979: elected Independent Labour candidate for Great & Little Oakley 1983: unsuccessful Lib/SDP candidate for Ramsey & Parkeston (Lab victory) 1987: unsuccessful Lib/SDP candidate for Great & Little Oakley (Con victory) 1991, 1995, 1999: no appearance 2003: unsuccessful Labour candidate for Great & Little Oakley (Con victory; cross-checking this gives Graham as the forename) 2007, 2011, 2015: no appearance Photo in the Guardian in Tendrig by none other than Graham Turner. I'm not convinced that's the same guy, although I can't be sure and can't share my full reasoning for DPA reasons. |
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Post by finsobruce on Nov 29, 2015 10:35:34 GMT
It's not all local elections results - this is the same that David has drawn attention to plus London CC and "boroughs" (which david has also previously done) |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 29, 2015 11:08:29 GMT
I used the UK Data Service when I was looking for the official 1970 notionals (and I didn't get them from there). While I don't doubt it's a great resource, registering is a bit of a palaver.
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Post by finsobruce on Nov 29, 2015 12:14:54 GMT
Vernon Bogdanor seems to have done a single term as a (Tory) Oxfordshire County Councillor for Witney (1973).
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Post by WestCountryRadical on Nov 29, 2015 14:48:30 GMT
Lowest winning vote ever for a principal council? I presume this is because development was slow to get started here, rather than a misprint. Two years later the electorate was 1424.
Milton Keynes 1976 - Wolverton Stacey Bushes
Electorate 84 Turnout 58%
Lab 31
Con 18
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Post by andrewp on Nov 29, 2015 15:14:06 GMT
Highbridge ward, ( 3 member district ward) Sedgemoor District Council in Somerset, has elected every party except Greens since 1973. What other wards have similar volatility?
1973. Lab, Lab, Lab
1976. Lab, Lab, Lab
1979 Lab, Lab, Lab
1983. Lab, SDP, C
1987. C, C, Lib
1991. C, C, Lab
1995. LD, LD, LD
1999. Lab, Lab, LD
2003. Lab, Lab, C
2007 LD, LD, LD
2011. LD, ind, ind
2015 UKIP, C, C
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Post by Khunanup on Nov 29, 2015 17:37:16 GMT
Highbridge ward, ( 3 member district ward) Sedgemoor District Council in Somerset, has elected every party except Greens since 1973. What other wards have similar volatility? 1973. Lab, Lab, Lab 1976. Lab, Lab, Lab 1979 Lab, Lab, Lab 1983. Lab, SDP, C 1987. C, C, Lib 1991. C, C, Lab 1995. LD, LD, LD 1999. Lab, Lab, LD 2003. Lab, Lab, C 2007 LD, LD, LD 2011. LD, ind, ind 2015 UKIP, C, C In the last four elections Nelson ward in Portsmouth has voted for different parties. 2011 Lib Dem, 2012 Labour, 2014 UKIP, 2015 Conservative. |
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Post by ColinJ on Nov 30, 2015 8:56:40 GMT
This is of course a fantastic resource and a godsend to all election anoraks like ourselves. I don't expect, given the huge amount of data, that Rallings and Thrasher will claim it to be 100% accurate. Indeed, you only have to look, in the early years in particular, at the presence of the numerous question marks in the results tables and the use of 'surnames only' for candidates to realise that additional local research by anyone with time on their hands would significantly improve accuracy and level of detail. But what an excellent starting position that researcher has been given! It makes me think that, in my sunset years, I could now give Three Rivers the same 'treatment' that I have given to Harrow.......
Incidentally, I think we have at last found Liz Kendall's father, standing for the Lib Dems in the mid 1970s and elected in 1980:
Three Rivers - 1976
Abbots Langley (3334)
Kitchingman M. Ms. Con 855
Sefton E. Ms. Con 747
Clinton Con 733
Coe Lib 560 30.6
Kendall R. Lib 504
Humphrey Lib 494
Fischer E. Lab 418 22.8
Adams Lab 393 -
Canning Lab 383 -
Three Rivers - 1980
Abbots Langley (3505)
Kendall R. Lib 667 42.1
Kitchingman M. Ms. Con 573 36.1
Fischer E. Lab 346 21.8
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Post by andrewteale on Nov 30, 2015 10:09:09 GMT
Just got back from a weekend away and found this.
I was tipped off about two or three years ago that Rallings and Thrasher were considering this idea. They asked one of their ex-students (with experience in web design) whether it was feasible and worthwhile, and said ex-student consulted me. I said of course it's worthwhile.
It's good to see the project come to fruition.
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Post by Arthur Figgis on Nov 30, 2015 10:14:45 GMT
Just got back from a weekend away and found this. I was tipped off about two or three years ago that Rallings and Thrasher were considering this idea. They asked one of their ex-students (with experience in web design) whether it was feasible and worthwhile, and said ex-student consulted me. I said of course it's worthwhile. It's good to see the project come to fruition. At what point should we expect LEAP to be complete back to 1973?  |
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Post by Davıd Boothroyd on Nov 30, 2015 10:29:49 GMT
At this time I think all efforts should be directed at compiling a comprehensive index of local authority byelections since the 1973 reforms.
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Post by Philip Davies on Nov 30, 2015 11:22:20 GMT
A Tory councillor in Mole Valley (1976/8) called Ms Tortise. (almost) Roger Protz standing for Labour in St Albans (1980/82) Look for Dolphins in Cheshire and possibly Vale Royal. |
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Post by Philip Davies on Nov 30, 2015 11:24:08 GMT
Anthony Minghella's mum Gloria was listed as being an Independent Isle of Wight councillor in her obituary, but I've found E Minghella (presumably his father Edward) elected in 1973. The A Coogan standing in Rochdale many times in Steve's dad. |
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Post by Davıd Boothroyd on Nov 30, 2015 12:38:13 GMT
It's very good that now everyone can savour George Galloway's first time candidature in 1977 in Gillburn ward, Dundee City Council. For extra fun, try comparing his performance with every other time the seat was fought.
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Post by WestCountryRadical on Nov 30, 2015 18:39:48 GMT
At this time I think all efforts should be directed at compiling a comprehensive index of local authority byelections since the 1973 reforms. What is currently available for this? Keith Edkins goes back to 1996 (and his records are largely complete, though there are occasional omissions). What would you suggest as the best way of detecting what by-elections have occurred during each term of office? I have tried using lists of councillors in Councils' annual yearbooks and then searching for by-elections where changes occur. Also, where election results indicate the incumbent, comparing to see if that person was originally elected for the seat at the start of the term. Neither of these is a perfect method. |
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Post by lbarnes on Nov 30, 2015 19:16:16 GMT
At this time I think all efforts should be directed at compiling a comprehensive index of local authority byelections since the 1973 reforms. What is currently available for this? Keith Edkins goes back to 1996 (and his records are largely complete, though there are occasional omissions). What would you suggest as the best way of detecting what by-elections have occurred during each term of office? I have tried using lists of councillors in Councils' annual yearbooks and then searching for by-elections where changes occur. Also, where election results indicate the incumbent, comparing to see if that person was originally elected for the seat at the start of the term. Neither of these is a perfect method. Local Government Chronicle back to about 1982 - not the full result but at least it gives the fact that an election took place and on what date. London by-elections are available in these publications: data.london.gov.uk/elections/ |
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Post by Davıd Boothroyd on Nov 30, 2015 19:24:38 GMT
I would hope to find not just the date, ward, turnout and party votes, but also the cause of the byelection (identifying which councillor caused it in multi-member wards) and candidate names. So far this information is only really available for London. Keith Edkins's lists come from the ALDC who have been compiling them for longer than since 1996. Back issues of Liberal Democrat News contain the ALDC lists of forthcoming byelections and results. Colin Rallings and Michael Thrasher were also recording the fact of byelections, though not in great detail, in monthly columns in the Local Government Chronicle from July 1984. Some of the statistics they included indicates they had begun to compile byelection results after the 1983 council elections. I have already posted up here all the byelections in 1984-85: * June-December 1984: vote-2012.proboards.com/thread/3371/byelections-june-december-1984* January-May 1985: vote-2012.proboards.com/thread/3386/byelections-january-1985* June-December 1985: vote-2012.proboards.com/thread/3460/byelections-june-december-1985There was also a time when Tribune recorded byelection results (late 1980s/early 1990s). |
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