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Post by greatkingrat on Oct 28, 2015 14:23:18 GMT
The so-called "rule" that writs are moved after the funeral is broken more than it is met recently. Particularly as there is a fairly long gap before the funeral I think December is still possible.
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Post by Tony Otim on Oct 28, 2015 15:04:19 GMT
That's why I said IF in my post  |
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Post by Davıd Boothroyd on Oct 28, 2015 15:44:07 GMT
Important news from Michael Crick
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Post by carlton43 on Oct 28, 2015 16:13:18 GMT
That seems a very long delay for a funeral?
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Post by andrea on Oct 28, 2015 16:49:40 GMT
Applications for Labour selection close on Friday at noon. Shortlisting interview takes place on Monday. Selection on Thursday That seems a very long delay for a funeral? The Church of Egland is so lazy. Holy Roman Church would have already done 3 funerals and got all the money for them. |
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Post by Davıd Boothroyd on Oct 28, 2015 16:52:24 GMT
Certain religions would have insisted on having him buried within 24 hours.
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Post by finsobruce on Oct 28, 2015 19:31:43 GMT
Applications for Labour selection close on Friday at noon. Shortlisting interview takes place on Monday. Selection on Thursday That seems a very long delay for a funeral? The Church of Egland is so lazy. Holy Roman Church would have already done 3 funerals and got all the money for them. They'll always be an Egland.  Depends where you are. When my father died it took a while to arrange the day as both undertakers and priests were booked up a while in advance. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 28, 2015 20:33:59 GMT
Applications for Labour selection close on Friday at noon. Shortlisting interview takes place on Monday. Selection on Thursday That seems a very long delay for a funeral? The Church of Egland is so lazy. Holy Roman Church would have already done 3 funerals and got all the money for them. Sorry to burst your balloon, but the RC church doesn't take fees for the use of the Church for a funeral, that is a C of E thing. Recently being involved with a funeral, I can tell you, they are backlogged something rotten for the graveyards and crematoria. We make people wait far too long; it is cruel. |
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Post by andrea on Oct 28, 2015 21:35:10 GMT
Applications for Labour selection close on Friday at noon. Shortlisting interview takes place on Monday. Selection on Thursday The Church of Egland is so lazy. Holy Roman Church would have already done 3 funerals and got all the money for them. Sorry to burst your balloon, but the RC church doesn't take fees for the use of the Church for a funeral, that is a C of E thing. In Italy it is common to give the priest celebrating the funeral an "offering". I meant that. When my granddad died in 2013, mother gave him 100 euros. The 100 figure was suggested by the aunt of my mother because it was the custom in that parish. However it is technically free to decide if and how many to give them. Some Italian Parishes actually had unofficial fees but the practice was much criticized by the Vatican especially after Francesco became Pope. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 29, 2015 7:44:16 GMT
Out of curiosity, is the burial process of Oldham West & Royton going to be an election issue? Vote (X) and get a quicker burial at a lower cost. We have an unacceptable wait time under (x) government....
(Couldn't find tongue in cheek smiley)
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Post by Deleted on Oct 29, 2015 8:51:34 GMT
Just found this on wiki, not sure how relevant it still is but
A Speaker's Conference on electoral law in 1973 proposed several changes to how by-elections are usually conducted:[12]
1. The Conference, conscious that the intervals before the issue of byelection writs have on occasion been unduly prolonged, put forward the following guidelines:
(a) The motion for a writ for a by-election should normally be moved within three months of a vacancy arising.
(b) It is inexpedient for by-elections to be held in August, or at the time of local elections in April/May, or in the period from mid-December to mid-February before (under present arrangements) a new Register is issued.
(c) Consequently, if this restriction should bring the date of the by-election into one of these periods, the by-election should if practicable be held earlier. If this is impractical the period should be lengthened by the shortest possible additional time. The total period (from vacancy to the moving of the writ) should not be more than four months.
(d) In the fifth year of a Parliament, some relaxation of these guidelines should be allowed, in order if possible to avoid by-elections being held immediately before a general election.
Is the highlighted bit still a convention because other wise it would mean the by election could be mid feb.
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Post by tim on Oct 29, 2015 9:08:02 GMT
Out of curiosity, is the burial process of Oldham West & Royton going to be an election issue? Vote (X) and get a quicker burial at a lower cost. We have an unacceptable wait time under (x) government.... (Couldn't find tongue in cheek smiley) So running through the whole process. From waiting to see your GP, consultant, operation and to be buried. Would you vote for a short or long waiting time ?  |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 29, 2015 9:09:22 GMT
Out of curiosity, is the burial process of Oldham West & Royton going to be an election issue? Vote (X) and get a quicker burial at a lower cost. We have an unacceptable wait time under (x) government.... (Couldn't find tongue in cheek smiley) So running through the whole process. From waiting to see your GP, consultant, operation and to be buried. Would you vote for a short or long waiting time ? Well I would hope the first three things were successful so the last item wouldn't be required. |
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Post by Andrew_S on Oct 29, 2015 9:18:16 GMT
Just found this on wiki, not sure how relevant it still is but A Speaker's Conference on electoral law in 1973 proposed several changes to how by-elections are usually conducted:[12] 1. The Conference, conscious that the intervals before the issue of byelection writs have on occasion been unduly prolonged, put forward the following guidelines: (a) The motion for a writ for a by-election should normally be moved within three months of a vacancy arising. (b) It is inexpedient for by-elections to be held in August, or at the time of local elections in April/May, or in the period from mid-December to mid-February before (under present arrangements) a new Register is issued. (c) Consequently, if this restriction should bring the date of the by-election into one of these periods, the by-election should if practicable be held earlier. If this is impractical the period should be lengthened by the shortest possible additional time. The total period (from vacancy to the moving of the writ) should not be more than four months. (d) In the fifth year of a Parliament, some relaxation of these guidelines should be allowed, in order if possible to avoid by-elections being held immediately before a general election. Is the highlighted bit still a convention because other wise it would mean the by election could be mid feb. Interesting although I don't think the February thing means much because a fair number of by-elections have been held in January since 1973 including Oldham East in 2011IIRC. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 29, 2015 9:21:25 GMT
Just been looking thru by elections since 1979 Andrew_S and yes a few in january and one on Dec 21st also interesting to see the reasons sadly 2 due to suicide which I hadn't remembered been old enough for and 2 leaving to become TV presenters |
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Post by Davıd Boothroyd on Oct 29, 2015 9:26:05 GMT
A Speaker's Conference on electoral law in 1973 proposed several changes to how by-elections are usually conducted:[12] (b) It is inexpedient for by-elections to be held in August, or at the time of local elections in April/May, or in the period from mid-December to mid-February before (under present arrangements) a new Register is issued. Is the highlighted bit still a convention because other wise it would mean the by election could be mid feb. Interesting although I don't think the February thing means much because a fair number of by-elections have been held in January since 1973 including Oldham East in 2011IIRC. Under the 1973 arrangements, the new register was published on 16 February. This is no longer the case; the new register now appears on 1 December. So if the convention applies, the dates have shifted. |
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Post by neilm on Oct 29, 2015 9:26:25 GMT
Are Kilroy and Walden the TV presenters?
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Post by greatkingrat on Oct 29, 2015 9:26:53 GMT
The power to set by-election dates should be taken away from the party whips. It should be up to the Speaker to decide the date in consultation with the relevant council, as currently happens in the Scottish Parliament.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 29, 2015 9:27:58 GMT
Are Kilroy and Walden the TV presenters? It was Kilroy and Matthew Parris |
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