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Post by The Bishop on Jun 12, 2016 9:40:22 GMT
Another day, another poll by another sketchy outfit: OUT 42%, IN 44% - Opinium Also last night, YouGov has Brexit ahead by a single point. I find both of these rather more believable than what ORB claimed. |
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Post by carlton43 on Jun 12, 2016 9:53:23 GMT
How are the leave campaign going to staff the new hospital they are going to build each week? There's a lot of very good unemployed nurses in Spain. They could come ov ..... Oh, hang on. Well, we could break the habits of a lifetime and start with building lots of nurses training colleges and have our own British nurses instead of importing from poorer countries where they are far more needed. Just an idle thought. |
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Post by finsobruce on Jun 12, 2016 10:08:22 GMT
There's a lot of very good unemployed nurses in Spain. They could come ov ..... Oh, hang on. Well, we could break the habits of a lifetime and start with building lots of nurses training colleges and have our own British nurses instead of importing from poorer countries where they are far more needed. Just an idle thought. It's not an idle thought - but you would need to reverse the cuts which lead to the closure of so many Schools of Nursing. It would probably require the re-introduction of some bursaries as well... |
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Post by carlton43 on Jun 12, 2016 10:11:25 GMT
Well, we could break the habits of a lifetime and start with building lots of nurses training colleges and have our own British nurses instead of importing from poorer countries where they are far more needed. Just an idle thought. It's not an idle thought - but you would need to reverse the cuts which lead to the closure of so many Schools of Nursing. It would probably require the re-introduction of some bursaries... Agreed. No contest. We probably have miles of overlap in policy terms. Where we might differ is what we cut to do it and where and if we raised additional funds? |
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Post by middyman on Jun 12, 2016 10:23:30 GMT
It obviously depends how you define "a lot". Compared to many other places in England Suffolk probably hasn't experienced a great deal, but I was thinking of a longer-term comparison to previous decades in Suffolk. If one were to take the availability of paprika (oddly spelt "papryka" on the packets) flavoured crisps on the shelves in Tesco as the marker of the presence of East European migrants, there is an adequate population to support sales in Ipswich and Cambridge, but not Stowmarket and possibly Bury St Edmunds, and I do realise that Cambridge is not in Suffolk but on the the flat lands to the West. |
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Post by The Bishop on Jun 12, 2016 10:31:12 GMT
Paprika flavour crisps have been around for at least 15 years, though......
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Post by middyman on Jun 12, 2016 10:37:45 GMT
Paprika flavour crisps have been around for at least 15 years, though...... Apart from in odd formulations - dippers, Pringles and the like - not in Suffolk in my experience. |
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Post by robert1 on Jun 12, 2016 11:23:52 GMT
I think you under-estimate the level of immigration from eastern Europe into rural/agricultural areas.
Some sorts of farming, particularly fruit and vegetable harvesting, require high levels of unskilled labour for picking seasons. In areas of limited population these communities are more distinctive than in major urban areas.
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Post by middyman on Jun 12, 2016 12:00:05 GMT
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Post by Davıd Boothroyd on Jun 13, 2016 15:10:18 GMT
There's a lot of chatter about an ICM poll on the referendum, which was supposed to be released this morning. Nothing came out, but the ICM website crashed under the strain of everyone reloading it. Some people have got confused with an earlier poll from May.
There is still expected to be a poll released by ICM today.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 13, 2016 15:56:29 GMT
There's a lot of chatter about an ICM poll on the referendum, which was supposed to be released this morning. Nothing came out, but the ICM website crashed under the strain of everyone reloading it. Some people have got confused with an earlier poll from May. There is still expected to be a poll released by ICM today. Mike Smithson is tweeting that both ICM polls show improved figures for Remain |
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Post by Jack on Jun 13, 2016 16:45:28 GMT
The aforementioned ICM polls:
Leave leading in the phone polls now too.
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Post by Sibboleth on Jun 13, 2016 16:53:02 GMT
What are the full figures?
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Post by Sibboleth on Jun 13, 2016 17:05:16 GMT
What are the full figures? 49/44 |
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Post by Sibboleth on Jun 13, 2016 17:09:52 GMT
Phone poll figures are certain to vote only (which explains the low number of undecided). For everyone its 46 L, 43 R
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Post by Andrew_S on Jun 13, 2016 21:36:00 GMT
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Post by sdoerr on Jun 14, 2016 10:52:41 GMT
Has narrowed a bit since then: |
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Post by The Bishop on Jun 14, 2016 11:10:18 GMT
That's the second week in a row there has been a huge song and dance about ICM's poll(s) hasn't it? Embarrassing stuff from a supposedly reputable company.
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Post by Ghyl Tarvoke on Jun 14, 2016 11:53:00 GMT
I'm assuming that all these polls continue the UK polling tradition of not polling Northern Ireland.
If it's very close, that could be significant.
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Post by Andrew_S on Jun 14, 2016 14:13:10 GMT
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