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Post by No Offence Alan on Jun 21, 2016 18:07:06 GMT
So shoppers at the US-owned chain prefer Remain, but those at the European-owned ones favour Leave. What to make of that?
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Post by hedgehog on Jun 21, 2016 19:22:27 GMT
So shoppers at the US-owned chain prefer Remain, but those at the European-owned ones favour Leave. What to make of that? I shopped in Lidl yesterday and today in Tesco, now im really confused about my vote.
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Post by Andrew_S on Jun 22, 2016 12:02:03 GMT
Do we have any more polls to come?
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Post by Davıd Boothroyd on Jun 22, 2016 12:54:50 GMT
There's also the YouGov "not an exit poll" that's due out at 10pm on Thursday and which everyone will say is an exit poll.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 22, 2016 13:29:55 GMT
Ipsos Mori attention seeking again I see. I'm not in favour of regulating polls, but I do think pollsters should agree that on voting day they should stfu and let people vote.
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Post by The Bishop on Jun 22, 2016 13:32:58 GMT
I think they have produced "final" polls on election day for a while now (MORI certainly did in 1997 GE, quite possibly earlier)
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Post by Andrew_S on Jun 22, 2016 15:46:48 GMT
Still too close to call:
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Post by Sibboleth on Jun 22, 2016 15:58:08 GMT
Updated:
45% - Opinium 44% - Survation 44% - YouGov 46% - ORB* 42% - Survation 43% - YouGov 44% - Opinium
*Much smaller undecided proportion than other surveys.
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Post by Sibboleth on Jun 22, 2016 16:02:49 GMT
Now that's a remarkably uniform picture isn't it? Still, I do think we have to wonder about the accuracy of these polls. Our polling industry is not very good. It is as relatively accurate as it is for elections solely because it relies heavily on past voting behavior (and often on the overt modification of its data to make things look right: they openly admit to doing this so pointing it out is not libel!) not because it is capable of conducting competent social surveys (which is why people should stop obsessing over internal demo breakdowns: they are almost certainly always very dodgy). But this vote isn't an election and past voter behavior will not be of much use.
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Post by Pimpernal on Jun 22, 2016 16:55:50 GMT
I think the big financiers have paid for some very extensive polling which they've kept to themselves and which must point to a 15% Remain win...
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Post by greenchristian on Jun 22, 2016 18:02:27 GMT
I think the big financiers have paid for some very extensive polling which they've kept to themselves and which must point to a 15% Remain win... What makes you think that?
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Post by Pimpernal on Jun 22, 2016 18:12:09 GMT
the betting...
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Post by ColinJ on Jun 22, 2016 20:03:19 GMT
I heard on Saturday from someone who chats to a Tory MP regularly that they (the Tories) have been undertaking private polling. If so, they keep a tight ship as nothing's been leaked.....
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Post by mrhell on Jun 22, 2016 21:26:27 GMT
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Post by Andrew_S on Jun 22, 2016 22:23:03 GMT
Looks like we've had two outliers tonight, ComRes showing Remain 8% ahead and TNS showing Leave 7% ahead with most likely voters.
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Post by Davıd Boothroyd on Jun 22, 2016 22:26:02 GMT
Quite possible we may find out tomorrow night that all the polls were outliers.
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Post by The Bishop on Jun 22, 2016 22:32:57 GMT
Headline figure from TNS was leave 2% ahead, down from 7% in their last poll.
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Post by Jack on Jun 22, 2016 22:33:40 GMT
Basically, no one has a bloody clue what's going to happen.
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Post by Sibboleth on Jun 22, 2016 22:38:29 GMT
What are the figures for the YouGov with undecideds included? It's useful to keep a track of this.
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Post by Davıd Boothroyd on Jun 23, 2016 9:32:42 GMT
Final Ipsos MORI due at 11 AM. Meanwhile:
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