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Post by Devil Wincarnate on Oct 25, 2015 15:04:18 GMT
It should be noted that it is not long since a Portuguese president imposed early elections despite the PM having a majority. At that point, Socrates didn't have a majority though, no? As I recall, he had enough to govern, and Sampaio forced the situation. It kicked up a massive fuss. Portugal's presidency seems to be even more of a bizarre concoction than France's.
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Post by Merseymike on Oct 25, 2015 15:58:29 GMT
Likely to mean fresh elections and a backlash against this. And the Socialists selecting candidates willing to work in coalitiom
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Post by maxque on Oct 25, 2015 22:02:46 GMT
Likely to mean fresh elections and a backlash against this. And the Socialists selecting candidates willing to work in coalitiom Ah - the Hard Left solution to any difference of opinion within a political party - Deselection! To be fair, I have an hard time to see any party not deselecting/expelling MPs voting against putting their own party in power.
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Post by finsobruce on Oct 25, 2015 22:20:47 GMT
Ah - the Hard Left solution to any difference of opinion within a political party - Deselection! To be fair, I have an hard time to see any party not deselecting/expelling MPs voting against putting their own party in power. Well, they didn't actually get the chance to prove they would do that - presumably there would have been a vote amongst the Socialist MPs? Would they not have accepted the majority vote? If they then voted down a deal in parliament that would be a different matter.
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Post by maxque on Oct 25, 2015 22:39:15 GMT
To be fair, I have an hard time to see any party not deselecting/expelling MPs voting against putting their own party in power. Well, they didn't actually get the chance to prove they would do that - presumably there would have been a vote amongst the Socialist MPs? Would they not have accepted the majority vote? If they then voted down a deal in parliament that would be a different matter. The goal seems to be voting the right-wing government out next week (in UK terms, voting against confidence). PSD tries to convince the right-wing PS MPs to not vote down the government.
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Post by East Anglian Lefty on Oct 25, 2015 22:40:19 GMT
Yes, but it's presumably likely to a question in whatever their equivalent of a panel hearing is.
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Post by Merseymike on Oct 26, 2015 0:38:25 GMT
The PS leader has made it clear that their MPS are expected to vote down the government. Which isn't unreasonable.
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Post by mboy on Oct 26, 2015 8:39:45 GMT
No, but then voting anti EU communists is, if you believe in civic democracy.
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Post by Andrew_S on Nov 10, 2015 0:27:58 GMT
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Post by mboy on Nov 10, 2015 1:00:17 GMT
I just hope they don't go and screw it all up like Greece did...
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Post by maxque on Nov 10, 2015 18:42:28 GMT
I just hope they don't go and screw it all up like Greece did... To be fair with Greece, no matter the party, they were screwed. ND/PASOK wasn't competent either. Nor seems SYRIZA. In final, I'm sure than, as a democrat, you'll accept that result. Unless you're one of those right-wingers thinking the market/businessmen should be able to override democracy?
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Post by markgoodair on Nov 27, 2015 9:51:07 GMT
I was in Lisbon last weekend and there were plenty of posters up for next years Presidential election campaign.
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Post by Merseymike on Nov 27, 2015 10:22:25 GMT
I was in Lisbon last weekend and there were plenty of posters up for next years Presidential election campaign. What's the electoral system for electing the President?
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Post by Devil Wincarnate on Nov 27, 2015 12:09:20 GMT
I was in Lisbon last weekend and there were plenty of posters up for next years Presidential election campaign. What's the electoral system for electing the President? Popular vote,two rounds. Although I think that it's rare for nobody to be elected on the first round.
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