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Post by neilm on Oct 5, 2015 16:22:31 GMT
The fact that the previous PS leader is under suspicion of corruption can't have helped - it's the second lousy turnout in a row as well Yes, turnout was rubbish. They seem much less overtly political than the Spanish. |
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Post by Merseymike on Oct 5, 2015 17:29:10 GMT
The fact that the previous PS leader is under suspicion of corruption can't have helped - it's the second lousy turnout in a row as well Yes, turnout was rubbish. They seem much less overtly political than the Spanish. Which is a concern. There has been no equivalent to Podemos and no real realignment. The Socialists have lost votes to those to their left. May actually be hard for the coalition to govern effectively |
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Post by Devil Wincarnate on Oct 5, 2015 20:42:23 GMT
The fact that the previous PS leader is under suspicion of corruption can't have helped - it's the second lousy turnout in a row as well There's suspicion, and then there's suspicion. Half the stuff Socrates has been accused of hasn't even hit the British press. As for your point on realignment- you're right, it's a curious one. The PSD have proven utterly immovable in the North and Madeira, and the Socialists only outpolled them in 7 of the 20 non-expat constituencies. They're quite widely liked, probably because they are a broad church with a sprinkling of island boss politics (see Alberto Jardim if you've not heard that name before). |
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Post by Georg Ebner on Oct 6, 2015 0:10:33 GMT
Hopefully PSD will give up its misleading name.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 12, 2015 19:59:43 GMT
2015 exit poll result announced (at 3:10 onwards):
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Post by mboy on Oct 22, 2015 23:15:56 GMT
While I'm not a particular fan of the conservatives there, I'm very worried at the prospect of a far-left coalition instead, who seem intent on replaying Greece's wonderfully successful antics: www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-34611274 |
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Post by maxque on Oct 23, 2015 0:21:50 GMT
While I'm not a particular fan of the conservatives there, I'm very worried at the prospect of a far-left coalition instead, who seem intent on replaying Greece's wonderfully successful antics: www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-34611274Very unexpected, PS never collaborated with those parties in the past. |
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Post by neilm on Oct 23, 2015 23:04:53 GMT
So an immediate vote of no confidence and a huge slap in the face of the Portuguese electorate.
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Post by maxque on Oct 23, 2015 23:08:34 GMT
A proud successor of Salazar, I see.
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Post by Andrew_S on Oct 24, 2015 1:42:14 GMT
What the hell's going on in Portugal? Left-wing parties win over 50% of votes and seats but the president decides the centre-right should continue in power. Not exactly democratic.
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Post by The Bishop on Oct 24, 2015 9:47:10 GMT
I think there will be almost universal agreement that this is outrageous and indefensible.
Though some are already trying to portray it as the EU's doing - not really.
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Post by thirdchill on Oct 24, 2015 9:48:48 GMT
What the hell's going on in Portugal? Left-wing parties win over 50% of votes and seats but the president decides the centre-right should continue in power. Not exactly democratic. A disgraceful decision. The president seems to be sticking up two fingers to the electorate. |
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Post by mboy on Oct 24, 2015 10:42:39 GMT
I suppose the President's logic is that the rainbow hard-left alliance isn't a serious proposition and won't last. But probably that needs to be tested, even though it will likely harm the country greatly. I wish the two main parties would swallow their pride and form a grand coalition, but I guess they don't have politicians there with the sense of duty of the Lib Dems!
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Post by Khunanup on Oct 24, 2015 14:48:24 GMT
I think there will be almost universal agreement that this is outrageous and indefensible. Though some are already trying to portray it as the EU's doing - not really. Exactly, it's just a politician who's favouring his own party over others and forgetting/ignoring that in his position he's supposed to be above party politics. |
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Post by neilm on Oct 24, 2015 16:38:09 GMT
Not that I condone this, but his party did come first after all. Its just that every other party is against them.
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Post by mboy on Oct 24, 2015 19:21:46 GMT
Actually, having looked a bit more, it turns out that t the constitutional situation in Portugal is similar to the UK, such that the sitting government gets first go at forming a government. Usually a party losing its majority would walk away, but they fancy their chances because a number of socialist MPs have said they will never vote to put the communists in power...
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Post by markgoodair on Oct 25, 2015 9:10:32 GMT
What the hell's going on in Portugal? Left-wing parties win over 50% of votes and seats but the president decides the centre-right should continue in power. Not exactly democratic. A disgraceful decision. The president seems to be sticking up two fingers to the electorate. An opitun time to restore the Portuguese monarchy. |
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Post by Devil Wincarnate on Oct 25, 2015 14:01:35 GMT
It should be noted that it is not long since a Portuguese president imposed early elections despite the PM having a majority.
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Post by finsobruce on Oct 25, 2015 14:12:18 GMT
It should be noted that it is not long since a Portuguese president imposed early elections despite the PM having a majority. Another point against having a presidential system. |
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Post by neilm on Oct 25, 2015 14:25:09 GMT
It should be noted that it is not long since a Portuguese president imposed early elections despite the PM having a majority. At that point, Socrates didn't have a majority though, no? |
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