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Post by mattbewilson on Oct 28, 2022 1:17:29 GMT
Something interesting is happening in polling at the moment. In VI Labour are still storming it. Best PM Sunak is closing in and in some polls has leap frogged Starmer. In favourables Sunak is no where near the highest heights in 2020 but nowhere near the lowest lowes of this year. Starmer though is riding pretty high, highest since 2020.
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Post by woollyliberal on Oct 28, 2022 8:11:13 GMT
There have been 3 polls since Sunak. They're in line with what went before. There may be a collective 'sigh of relief' in the polls, now that the previous 2 PMs have gone. I doubt it will amount to much. Sunak is neither loved nor hated. His party is though. Rehabilitating the Tories is a mountain of a job and a cold, expensive winter is not going to make it easier.
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Post by msc on Oct 28, 2022 8:20:06 GMT
He's got the "thank feck its not Truss anymore" personal polling bounce. You have to wait a few months to see it translate into views on his own leadership - for good or for bad.
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Post by nodealbrexiteer on Oct 28, 2022 9:09:19 GMT
Something interesting is happening in polling at the moment. In VI Labour are still storming it. Best PM Sunak is closing in and in some polls has leap frogged Starmer. In favourables Sunak is no where near the highest heights in 2020 but nowhere near the lowest lowes of this year. Starmer though is riding pretty high, highest since 2020. Poll in daily mail though still showing 20% plus lead shows Sunak ahead on some of the tax and economy questions-one by 39 to 30% so if we go by the mantra of looking behind the headline VI figures to leader ratings, ratings on key issues like the economy this could give the Tories hope and Labour something to worry about |
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Post by The Bishop on Oct 28, 2022 9:28:18 GMT
Again, none of this is unusual. A "honeymoon effect" is called that for a reason.
As things stand, the currently almost incredible toxicity of the Tory party dragging Sunak's ratings down is surely much more likely than the opposite.
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Post by nodealbrexiteer on Oct 28, 2022 9:29:40 GMT
Again, none of this is unusual. A "honeymoon effect" is called that for a reason. As things stand, the currently almost incredible toxicity of the Tory party dragging Sunak's ratings down is surely much more likely than the opposite. I hope for your sake that's right |
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Post by The Bishop on Oct 28, 2022 9:32:01 GMT
Not a totally foolproof guide, but history is on my side rather  Am reminded for some reason of Paddy Ashdown the day after the 1997 GE, when he described John Major as "a decent man leading a terrible party". |
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Post by nodealbrexiteer on Oct 28, 2022 9:34:10 GMT
Not a totally foolproof guide, but history is on my side rather Am reminded for some reason of Paddy Ashdown the day after the 1997 GE, when he described John Major as "a decent man leading a terrible party". Perhaps i'm dwelling pessimistically on the Tory shocks of 1970,1992 and 2015 , time will tell as the cliche goes |
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Post by mattbewilson on Oct 28, 2022 10:26:29 GMT
Not a totally foolproof guide, but history is on my side rather Am reminded for some reason of Paddy Ashdown the day after the 1997 GE, when he described John Major as "a decent man leading a terrible party". though worth saying despite all the nice things said about major his polling numbers didn't really reflect that |
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Post by timmullen1 on Dec 3, 2022 16:46:03 GMT
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Post by andrewp on Feb 24, 2023 17:47:34 GMT
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Post by andrewp on Mar 17, 2023 17:38:27 GMT
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Post by woollyliberal on Jul 3, 2023 7:55:38 GMT
Lab 43%
Con 29%
LD 11%
Grn 7%
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Post by The Bishop on Jul 3, 2023 8:48:26 GMT
That's all reading rather a lot into a fairly routine poll movement tbh.
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Post by iang on Jul 3, 2023 9:46:57 GMT
"Shock as Conservatives poised to lose slightly less overwhelmingly". Seems a slightly strange perspective from the "i"
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Post by The Bishop on Jul 3, 2023 9:49:35 GMT
Don't want to get all conspiratorial, but remember who owns them.
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Post by batman on Jul 3, 2023 17:26:27 GMT
it won't prompt any questions at all, other than why do they poll so infrequently, and why is this poll out of line with the great majority of (though not quite all) other current polls.
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Post by mattbewilson on Jul 3, 2023 17:51:38 GMT
it won't prompt any questions at all, other than why do they poll so infrequently, and why is this poll out of line with the great majority of (though not quite all) other current polls. money and no one willing to commission their polls on the regular |
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Post by The Bishop on Jul 4, 2023 10:27:07 GMT
They do tend to give lower Labour scores than average due to their methodology, and tbf they did do a couple of polls between March and their latest one - they just didn't get posted on here (though that may be partly because their surveys often aren't terribly well publicised either)
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Post by batman on Jul 31, 2023 11:24:41 GMT
I saw the Independent front page in the supermarket yesterday, I noticed that it said that a poll (which I presume is BMG) had Labour's lead up from 14% to 17%. However I didn't get the full figures and it isn't on BMG's website that I can see. Maybe someone can have more success than me in finding everything out.
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