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Post by The Bishop on Jul 14, 2021 11:04:36 GMT
Again, there is so much other stuff they could cut first - starting with their ludicrously inflated "star" salaries.
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Post by rcronald on Jul 14, 2021 14:00:26 GMT
One of the only issues in which I would be considered in the left wing of the Tory party would be my opposition to defunding the BBC. But with idiotic and unnecessary decisions like this no wonder people are starting to hate the damn channel.... (they could have cut other progrems that have much less to offer to the public)
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Post by Andrew_S on Aug 30, 2021 3:43:34 GMT
Referendum night — Quebec 1995
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Post by The Bishop on Aug 30, 2021 11:12:09 GMT
Now that was a cliffhanger.....
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Post by Harry Hayfield on Aug 30, 2021 20:07:13 GMT
Here we are, a Bank Holiday Monday and no archive general election to keep us all occupied. It's enough to make you start a petition calling on BBC Parliament to be handed back to Westminster and be called "The Parliament Channel" so that they can replay things that the BBC either do not, or will not, replay.
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Post by Davıd Boothroyd on Aug 30, 2021 20:15:09 GMT
The Parliamentary Channel was originally set up by United Artists, who were then major operators in the UK Cable TV market. That was a contrast to C-SPAN which was set up by a consortium of cable companies. United Artists then sold it to the BBC in 1998. Even back in Parliamentary Channel days it used to show gavel-to-gavel coverage of party conferences. www.c-span.org/video/?27220-1/british-parliamentary-channel
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Post by nodealbrexiteer on Aug 30, 2021 20:54:05 GMT
Here we are, a Bank Holiday Monday and no archive general election to keep us all occupied. It's enough to make you start a petition calling on BBC Parliament to be handed back to Westminster and be called "The Parliament Channel" so that they can replay things that the BBC either do not, or will not, replay. I was a little sad they didn't replay the 2001 election coverage around the late May bank holiday
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Post by Andrew_S on Aug 30, 2021 22:24:26 GMT
I don't know how interesting this will be. Canadian 1993 general election night results. Only appeared on YouTube fairly recently.
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Post by johnloony on Aug 31, 2021 10:59:14 GMT
I don't know how interesting this will be. Canadian 1993 general election night results. Only appeared on YouTube fairly recently. It's weird and annoying that Canadian TV tells us of the tiny sub-totals from very small polling stations (very useful information_) but then doesn't say anything about the swings or percentages of those sub-samples compared with how they voted last time. In other words, they completely ignore the bread-and-butter excitement of election results programmes, which are supposed to extrapolate fropm the known in order to predict the unknown.
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Post by johnloony on Aug 31, 2021 17:02:27 GMT
It's weird and annoying that Canadian TV tells us of the tiny sub-totals from very small polling stations (very useful information_) but then doesn't say anything about the swings or percentages of those sub-samples compared with how they voted last time. In other words, they completely ignore the bread-and-butter excitement of election results programmes, which are supposed to extrapolate fropm the known in order to predict the unknown. Yes, elections outside the UK and Ireland tend to feel rather bloodless and anodyne with the lack of declarations and definitive results. That's a different difference. The UK doesn't count and declare separate subtotals before declaring the total total, whereas Canada (and other countries) do; but the problem with all the Canadian election results programmes I've seen is that they don't extrapolate from the known subtotals to predict what the total total will be. They just add up the subtotals as they go along, and you don't know what the final result is going to be until you've got there. If they were to count and declare 2 or 3 polling stations out of the c.50 in Croydon Central constituency, then I (we) would have a very good idea of what it meant for the whole constituency, especially if we have the equivalent data from those polling stations from the previous election. The first subtotal in that clip is Lib 24 PCP 13 NDP 4 Ref 1. And what was the result from that same polling station in 1988? What is the swing? They don't even tell us. Getting the percentages and swing from 1 polling station would be more meaningful and more useful than waiting for the raw figures from 10 polling stations.
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Post by greenchristian on Aug 31, 2021 17:13:17 GMT
Yes, elections outside the UK and Ireland tend to feel rather bloodless and anodyne with the lack of declarations and definitive results. That's a different difference. The UK doesn't count and declare separate subtotals before declaring the total total, whereas Canada (and other countries) do; but the problem with all the Canadian election results programmes I've seen is that they don't extrapolate from the known subtotals to predict what the total total will be. They just add up the subtotals as they go along, and you don't know what the final result is going to be until you've got there. If they were to count and declare 2 or 3 polling stations out of the c.50 in Croydon Central constituency, then I (we) would have a very good idea of what it meant for the whole constituency, especially if we have the equivalent data from those polling stations from the previous election. The first subtotal in that clip is Lib 24 PCP 13 NDP 4 Ref 1. And what was the result from that same polling station in 1988? What is the swing? They don't even tell us. Getting the percentages and swing from 1 polling station would be more meaningful and more useful than waiting for the raw figures from 10 polling stations. You forgot to explicitly mention that we would need to know which polling stations those figures are from to draw any conclusions from them.[/nitpick]
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Post by Harry Hayfield on Sept 15, 2021 18:29:13 GMT
There are two more national holidays this year before the year finishes. Those holidays are Christmas Day (December 27th) due to the actual day being on a Saturday and Boxing Day (December 28th) due to the actual day being on a Sunday. 2022 starts with New Year's Day on January 3rd (for the same reasons). That means that, in theory, BBC Parliament could show 1966 (55th anniversary) and 2001 (20th anniversary) and then either 1992 (30th anniversary) or 1997 (25th anniversary) holding the other for either the May Bank Holiday, the Jubilee Bank Holiday, the Summer Bank Holiday or Boxing Day.
However, judging by what we saw this past recess I am of the belief that the only way that is going to happen is it we (as a group) ask the BBC permission to stream the election on Twitch (just as they streamed past episodes of Doctor Who before launching it on BritBox)
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Post by LDCaerdydd on Sept 15, 2021 20:42:49 GMT
In theory the BBC could reshow any election coverage regardless of the anniversary. In practice I can’t see there being much appetite for them over Christmas but I may be wrong.
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Post by greenchristian on Sept 15, 2021 21:20:34 GMT
In theory the BBC could reshow any election coverage regardless of the anniversary. I’m practice I can’t see there being much appetite for them over Christmas but I may be wrong. And the anniversary thing was really just a simple way of picking which one to show.
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Post by nodealbrexiteer on Sept 15, 2021 21:33:12 GMT
In theory the BBC could reshow any election coverage regardless of the anniversary. I’m practice I can’t see there being much appetite for them over Christmas but I may be wrong. And the anniversary thing was really just a simple way of picking which one to show. I was annoyed they missed a trick by not showing 2001 around the late May bank holiday
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Post by timmullen1 on Sept 15, 2021 21:36:46 GMT
And the anniversary thing was really just a simple way of picking which one to show. I was annoyed they missed a trick by not showing 2001 around the late May bank holiday It looks like one way they’ve found of saving money is to merge with BBC News Channel during Recesses rather than even show re-runs of recent Commons or Select Committee debates.
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Post by Andrew_S on Dec 13, 2021 9:49:11 GMT
This programme sounds interesting. Problem is I don't know where/how you'd watch it. www2.bfi.org.uk/films-tv-people/4ce2b73acbb5c"Election I - Tactical Voting (1987) Synopsis Documentary report which looks at the possible effects which tactical voting may have on the General Election in June 1987 in London"
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Post by Harry Hayfield on Dec 14, 2021 20:25:18 GMT
Does anyone know if BBC, Sky, GB News are going to cover North Shropshire properly?
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Post by LDCaerdydd on Dec 14, 2021 20:35:50 GMT
I can virtually guarantee GB News won’t cover it properly.
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Post by Andrew_S on Dec 15, 2021 2:58:30 GMT
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