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Post by pl on Apr 8, 2020 11:25:19 GMT
Is anyone else scratching their heads at the obvious omission from the BBC Parliament schedules of the 1992 general election tomorrow (or indeed over the Easter weekend)? No... They’ve previously said they are not airing them any more to “save money”.
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Post by timmullen1 on Apr 8, 2020 11:29:56 GMT
Is anyone else scratching their heads at the obvious omission from the BBC Parliament schedules of the 1992 general election tomorrow (or indeed over the Easter weekend)? No... They’ve previously said they are not airing them any more to “save money”. However they’ve also deferred other cost cuts to continue to provide programming during the lockdown and beyond whilst nearly all non news recording has stopped. If they can afford to show an “FA Cup classic” every night next week on the Red Button surely they can spend one day on an election repeat?
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Post by pl on Apr 8, 2020 11:36:22 GMT
No... They’ve previously said they are not airing them any more to “save money”. However they’ve also deferred other cost cuts to continue to provide programming during the lockdown and beyond whilst nearly all non news recording has stopped. If they can afford to show an “FA Cup classic” every night next week on the Red Button surely they can spend one day on an election repeat? I fear we are somewhere down the list of priorities to be honest!!
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Post by timmullen1 on Apr 8, 2020 11:40:01 GMT
However they’ve also deferred other cost cuts to continue to provide programming during the lockdown and beyond whilst nearly all non news recording has stopped. If they can afford to show an “FA Cup classic” every night next week on the Red Button surely they can spend one day on an election repeat? I fear we are somewhere down the list of priorities to be honest!! Yes, but on the flip side we’re an easy, and I’m sure inexpensive, way of filling some 18 hours of airtime without having the same Select Committees, PMQs and Scottish Parliament debates on loop. If you didn’t want to do that it would be even less expensive and disruptive just to bung it back on the iPlayer.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 9, 2020 20:53:14 GMT
How much money can it cost to repeat an election results programme, as opposed to making new content or showing something else as a repeat? If that’s their argument then they might as well close down the BBC Parliament channel altogether.
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Post by andrewteale on Apr 10, 2020 8:14:21 GMT
How much money can it cost to repeat an election results programme, as opposed to making new content or showing something else as a repeat? If that’s their argument then they might as well close down the BBC Parliament channel altogether. You'll have to dig the tapes out of the archive (which might be non-trivial) and check them for quality. That could mean anything from "is the tape still of broadcast quality" to "is there any bad language on it or anything which could trigger a modern audience". (This is not just a problem with decades-old programmes; there are several episodes of The Chase which are unbroadcastable because of references to celebrities who got Yewtreed.) Given the length of an election night programme, the quality control would tie up a staff member for a week or so with no guarantee of anything broadcastable at the end of it.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 10, 2020 8:27:31 GMT
But they’ve all already been broadcast in the past. OK check for deterioration but I doubt the ‘92 election would suddenly be in poor nick. I would suggest that as part of their public service remit, including education, they put all their general election programmes on YouTube for free viewing. If they’re not going to show them on TV then it’s no loss to them, and it’s not as if they’re some great potential cash cow that they could otherwise sell on DVD or to foreign broadcasters.
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Post by Davıd Boothroyd on Apr 10, 2020 9:26:51 GMT
When BBC Parliament show old general elections, they are played out from the files prepared when that election night's programme was first rerun. Note for instance that the 1979 programme is always shown in a very restrictive cutout which loses part of the image. Compliance will already have been done, but there may still be payments to be made for any commercial music featured or film used.
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Post by Davıd Boothroyd on Apr 17, 2020 12:45:37 GMT
The opening item in the late news in 1978 may confirm some impressions we've had in the red room about Liberals.
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Post by finsobruce on Apr 17, 2020 16:38:41 GMT
The opening item in the late news in 1978 may confirm some impressions we've had in the red room about Liberals. He later defected to Labour apparently. Was previously Liberal candidate in Sparkbrook in 1974 and then Perry Barr in 1983.
Reportedly appointed as honorary consul of St Kitts Nevis to Brazil.
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Post by neilm on May 2, 2020 19:15:06 GMT
'A coloured candidate would result in annihilation for the Liberals in Nuneaton.'
Aah, this must be why they've not come close since then. I wonder what happened to Florrie (sp?) Carville (sp?)?
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Post by Davıd Boothroyd on May 2, 2020 19:31:58 GMT
'A coloured candidate would result in annihilation for the Liberals in Nuneaton.' Aah, this must be why they've not come close since then. I wonder what happened to Florrie (sp?) Carville (sp?)? Florence Lilian Carvell, of Bedworth, b. 9 January 1917, d. 15 November 2010. Liberal councillor for Bedworth North and West 1976-79, for Mount Pleasant 1979-84. She still stood as a Liberal candidate in 1979 and 1980. She was mentioned in the Coventry Telegraph in 2007:
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Post by Davıd Boothroyd on May 9, 2020 15:19:19 GMT
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Post by belvoir on May 9, 2020 17:38:15 GMT
I thought County Hall was in Lambeth; why did they focus on some obscure borough, what-d'ye-call-it, thing'em-bob, to Lambeth's north-west? As well as portraying St Paul's as a part of it (the map is clearly of the borough not the GLC electoral area) A separate but related query: how were the number of GLC seats allocated to the boroughs in the first place? I can't believe Westminster was entitled to 4 by 1964. It wasn't just "present number of Parliamentary seats", was it?
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Post by The Bishop on May 17, 2020 11:29:59 GMT
The opening item in the late news in 1978 may confirm some impressions we've had in the red room about Liberals. Looked up the 1979 Nuneaton result on Wikipedia after seeing this clip - it is an obvious nonsense regarding the NF score at least. Any chance a of a correction?
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Post by johnloony on May 17, 2020 23:51:33 GMT
The opening item in the late news in 1978 may confirm some impressions we've had in the red room about Liberals. Looked up the 1979 Nuneaton result on Wikipedia after seeing this clip - it is an obvious nonsense regarding the NF score at least. Any chance a of a correction? The correct figure is 1,028 (according to Whitaker's Almanac).
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Post by johnloony on May 17, 2020 23:53:07 GMT
'A coloured candidate would result in annihilation for the Liberals in Nuneaton.' Aah, this must be why they've not come close since then. I wonder what happened to Florrie (sp?) Carville (sp?)? Florence Lilian Carvell, of Bedworth, b. 9 January 1917, d. 15 November 2010. Liberal councillor for Bedworth North and West 1976-79, for Mount Pleasant 1979-84. She still stood as a Liberal candidate in 1979 and 1980. She was mentioned in the Coventry Telegraph in 2007: Astonishing that she wasn't expelled from the party - even then.
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Post by Andrew_S on May 18, 2020 0:06:47 GMT
At the 1979 election Gus Williams didn't do too badly, polling 6,184 votes in Nuneaton compared to 10,729 for the Liberals in October 1974.
Useless fact: the radio broadcast from the Commons on the video above was just 13 days after it started on a permanent basis.
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Post by Davıd Boothroyd on May 24, 2020 20:01:35 GMT
Spot the forum member.
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Post by johnloony on May 25, 2020 0:22:42 GMT
I think my first appearance on that clip is at 46:49. In between me and the camera is the late Toby Jug, who a few years later was expelled from the OMRLP and founded the Eccentric Party of Great Britain. The Bromley & Chiselhurst by-election campaign was the nastiest of all the 21 election campaigns in which I stood as a candidate: partly because of the mud-slinging by the Lib Dems in trying to criticise the Conservative candidate for having multiple jobs (and trying to pretend that he was somehow ineligible to be a candidate); partly because I was physically manhandled by a Lib Dem in Bromley High Street when I tried to do the usual courtesy of introducing myself to the Lib Dem candidate and to Charles Kennedy when we met by chance; and partly because my own campaign was disrupted by Toby Jug when, without the knowledge of me or of Alan Hope, he took it upon himself to phone in and speak to the journalist on the Bromley Times local newspaper, presuming to speak on my behalf, claiming to be my agent (which he wasn't), and giving the impression to the journalist that he was the leader of the party. I didn't know anything about him doing so until I read the report in the newspaper. It was similar incidents of gallumphingness and interference in other people's activities which eventually led to his expulsion from the OMRLP. At the declaration (starting at 47:46) Nick Hadziannis (Independent) (age 22) (appearing at 50:12) was aiming to get 37 votes, because (according to him) that was the number of people who did the Cuban revolution. He was so excited when he discovered that I was standing as a Loony candidate that he voted for me instead of himself; because of that I managed to beat him by a ratio of more than 2-to-1 (132 votes compared with 65). The English Democrat candidate (Steve Uncles) went to prison a few years ago for forging false names and signatures on nomination papers for local elections in Kent. A while ago he tried to start an argument with me when he belatedly realised that I'm gay, and tried to make a homophobic argument about the fact that I mention "gay" in my Twitter biography, when heterosexual people supposedly don't. The Money Reform Party candidate said "We have been told that we are only allowed one minute each for our speeches, but unlike the other candidates I still have time to thank all my voters individually and not just collectively". The bitterness between the Conservative candidate and the smug, smirking, arrogant Lib Dem candidate is obvious from the declaration itself. When the speeches were being made, I couldn't hear what Bob Neill was saying because his words were drowned out by the heckling and jeering of the Lib Dem supporters in the crowd. It was only when I got home afterwards and watched my own recording that I was able to hear what he had actually said.
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