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Post by Deleted on Oct 2, 2014 22:48:51 GMT
So this is a thing  I thought anarchists were against voting? There are actually a range of schools of thought amongst anarchists when it comes to voting. Probably the most common are not voting at all, voting tactically against the right, and voting for Green candidates that they like. I assume that Holly Smith is connected to this outfit: www.classwarparty.org.uk |
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Post by johnloony on Oct 3, 2014 4:28:35 GMT
To be fair, a double-barrelled surname is less indicative of a wealthy background than it was - it's reasonably common where the parents weren't intending to marry, for example. For those who are wondering, I'm still none the wiser exactly why I have a double-barrelled surname. 18 years ago my brother attended the wedding of a groom with a triple-barrelled name and a bride with a double-barrelled name. I was slightly disappointed that they didn't decide to have a quintuple-barrelled married surname. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 3, 2014 6:50:24 GMT
I know three different couples who, on marrying, squished their surnames together to form entirely new ones.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 3, 2014 7:05:28 GMT
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Post by Pete Whitehead on Oct 3, 2014 7:42:10 GMT
Is that the bloke who got 2 votes in a council by-election? I hope he beats the Class War candidate (but still only gets 2 votes)
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Post by Deleted on Oct 3, 2014 8:26:39 GMT
Clive Gregory is to stand here for the Greens.
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Post by Pimpernal on Oct 3, 2014 8:41:01 GMT
Paddy Power now have the Conservative as favourite at 5/6. Other bookies disagree. -- Steve now have Conservatives ahead or at least neck-and-neck. -- Steve A slight move back to UKIP again now - must be some chances for small but definite profits to be made by backing different candidates at different bookies - IF you believe that Labour are out of it - which I don't think they are... The opening 3/1 for the tories was always going to be snatched up as it was a daft price to open with. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 4, 2014 9:28:07 GMT
Spotted in R&S
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Post by Devonian on Oct 4, 2014 12:23:34 GMT
From BBC South East News last night
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Post by Deleted on Oct 4, 2014 13:34:55 GMT
All bookies now have Conservatives ahead or at least neck-and-neck. -- Steve A slight move back to UKIP again now - must be some chances for small but definite profits to be made by backing different candidates at different bookies - IF you believe that Labour are out of it - which I don't think they are...
The opening 3/1 for the tories was always going to be snatched up as it was a daft price to open with. Really? |
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Post by Pimpernal on Oct 4, 2014 15:58:42 GMT
Yes really...
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Post by Deleted on Oct 4, 2014 16:12:33 GMT
So you think UKIP might be 3rd? |
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Post by Devonian on Oct 4, 2014 16:42:15 GMT
So you think UKIP might be 3rd? I've heard that UKIP did some private polling before Reckless defected that is alleged to have showed Reckless winning as a UKIP candidate (I've heard they've also done similar polling in other constituencies of MPs they have been trying to get to defect). I have no way of verifying that (I guess we'll have to wait for the first published by election poll) but if UKIP win (or even if the come second) I think it quite possible the Tories will come third. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 4, 2014 16:59:54 GMT
The tories beat labour in all but one ward in 2011 didn't they?
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Post by Pimpernal on Oct 4, 2014 17:01:55 GMT
I would say all 3 parties being within 1000 votes of each other is not impossible, and in any combination...
However, my experiences from the past few days make me a tad more more confident of a UKIP win than I was when it was announced. There is a long way to go though, and momentum will be important.
The Tory slaggings have gone down dreadfully and made canvassing more positive than it may otherwise have been.
I would also say that from what I've seen, Labour have been more active than the Tories so far.
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Post by Devonian on Oct 4, 2014 17:14:24 GMT
I think you're right about this. This was a Labour seat until 2010 and the Tories haven't become more popular since then. Labour since then will have gained a big chunk of the 2010 Lib Dem vote and I expect UKIP to take more of its votes from 2010 Tory voters than from 2010 Labour voters. Also in Newark you had the phenomena of Labour supporting UKIP derangement syndrome sufferers tactically voting Conservative to stop UKIP. In Medway they don't have to do this as it is a winnable seat for Labour. Looking at the figures from 2010 I wouldn't be surprised at all if Labour finished ahead of the Tories, wherever UKIP were. |
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Post by Richard Allen on Oct 4, 2014 17:20:17 GMT
I think you're right about this. This was a Labour seat until 2010 and the Tories haven't become more popular since then. Labour since then will have gained a big chunk of the 2010 Lib Dem vote and I expect UKIP to take more of its votes from 2010 Tory voters than from 2010 Labour voters. Also in Newark you had the phenomena of Labour supporting UKIP derangement syndrome sufferers tactically voting Conservative to stop UKIP. In Medway they don't have to do this as it is a winnable seat for Labour. Looking at the figures from 2010 I wouldn't be surprised at all if Labour finished ahead of the Tories, wherever UKIP were. The boundaries before 2010 were more favourable for Labour. |
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Post by No Offence Alan on Oct 4, 2014 17:28:06 GMT
We went double-barrelled when we got married, creating something which I'm fairly certain is unique  So if two double-barrelled people got together, would we see quadruple-barrelled surnames? A friend of mine, of an older generation, used to think that double-barrelled surnames were to be disapproved of, since they implied a divorce somewhere in the ancestry (a woman typically combining the surnames of two husbands). |
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Post by Ben Walker on Oct 4, 2014 17:38:20 GMT
I think you're right about this. This was a Labour seat until 2010 and the Tories haven't become more popular since then. Labour since then will have gained a big chunk of the 2010 Lib Dem vote and I expect UKIP to take more of its votes from 2010 Tory voters than from 2010 Labour voters. Also in Newark you had the phenomena of Labour supporting UKIP derangement syndrome sufferers tactically voting Conservative to stop UKIP. In Medway they don't have to do this as it is a winnable seat for Labour. Looking at the figures from 2010 I wouldn't be surprised at all if Labour finished ahead of the Tories, wherever UKIP were. So looks like Labour have two choices: - Don't target the seat, so the anti-Ukip Lab types flock to the Tories to stop Ukip with the Tories winning on 35-40% but risk strengthening the image of being an irrelevancy in the south.
or, - Target the seat to end the image of being an irrelevance in the south, but risk letting UKIP win on 30-35%.
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Post by right on Oct 4, 2014 17:42:42 GMT
I think you're right about this. This was a Labour seat until 2010 and the Tories haven't become more popular since then. Labour since then will have gained a big chunk of the 2010 Lib Dem vote and I expect UKIP to take more of its votes from 2010 Tory voters than from 2010 Labour voters. Also in Newark you had the phenomena of Labour supporting UKIP derangement syndrome sufferers tactically voting Conservative to stop UKIP. In Medway they don't have to do this as it is a winnable seat for Labour. Looking at the figures from 2010 I wouldn't be surprised at all if Labour finished ahead of the Tories, wherever UKIP were. The boundaries before 2010 were more favourable for Labour. Quite. Going from losing to a 10,000+ majority suggests a boundary change, even if Reckless is more popular than credited and if Marshall-Andrews had a strong local following. |
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