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Post by Deleted on Oct 30, 2014 21:17:03 GMT
The Lib Dems?
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Post by Merseymike on Oct 31, 2014 10:36:57 GMT
Simply not true. It may have been in the 60's but it isn't now. This was an example of a seat which swung wildly away from us last time hence it's 125th position on the target list. Yes, dramatic but exaggerated article. Just to take one opposite example, Tynemouth, long a Tory safe seat, is now safely Labour. It is all part of the general weakening of Labour in the south and the Tories in the north. However, Labour should be challenging in by-elections in seats it would not expect to win in the general election. Under normal circumstances I would agree, but given where this seat is - in the middle of UKIP's main area of strength - and, frankly, the fact that nothing much is being spent on it, I won't be very surprised if we don't. |
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Post by carlton43 on Oct 31, 2014 14:28:19 GMT
If there is demand for a Mega Mosque, then a Mega Mosque is what should be built. Would be nice if the local authority showed the same tolerance to casinos, pubs and gypo traveller sites where demand exists. I oppose all of those except new pubs, but doubt if I would support more than a third of suggested new pubs as to design, nature or placing. |
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Post by Andrew_S on Oct 31, 2014 15:33:55 GMT
Another Survation poll for Rochester & Strood is due this evening according to Mike Smithson.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 31, 2014 17:53:06 GMT
Rochester & Strood poll (Survation):
UKIP - 48% (+8)
CON - 33% (-2)
LAB - 16% (-9)
GRN - 2% (+2)
LDEM - 1% (-2)
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Post by Devonian on Oct 31, 2014 17:59:56 GMT
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Post by Devonian on Oct 31, 2014 18:01:57 GMT
Rochester & Strood poll (Survation): UKIP - 48% (+8) CON - 33% (-2) LAB - 16% (-9) GRN - 2% (+2) LDEM - 1% (-2) I think those are the plus and minus figures given by Kent Online, I think they've got some of them wrong. |
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Post by Richard Allen on Oct 31, 2014 18:08:25 GMT
However, Labour should be challenging in by-elections in seats it would not expect to win in the general election. A few years ago I would have agreed with this but the rise of UKIP has changed things. |
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Post by Andrew_S on Oct 31, 2014 18:12:23 GMT
The Tories are actually up two points from the previous Survation poll, not down two points.
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Post by Devonian on Oct 31, 2014 18:15:34 GMT
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Post by Devonian on Oct 31, 2014 18:36:17 GMT
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Post by Devonian on Oct 31, 2014 18:41:50 GMT
Ward breakdown
Rochester
UKIP 44%
Con 34%
Lab 19%
Strood
UKIP 49%
Con 29%
Lab 17%
Rural
UKIP 52%
Con 34%
Lab 10%
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Post by Devonian on Oct 31, 2014 18:53:37 GMT
Significant tweet from Farage
Nigel Farage @nigel_Farage 42m42 minutes ago
Interestingly, the Tory vote is down 2%, and the Labour vote has shrunk by 9%. Like #UKIP, most voters oppose secretive #TTIP EU-USA deal.
The significance is not that Farage, like others, copied the Kent Online mistake and gave the figure for Conservative change as down two not up two. The significance is that this is the first time Farage has come out and said "UKIP is opposed to TTIP". I have seen other UKIP figures like David Coburn state their opposition to TTIP. However whilst the party as a whole and its official spokesman have expressed increasing reservations about aspects of TTIP the official line until now has been that UKIP will wait for the final draft before making a final judgement on TTIP.
I think UKIP has been shifting more to an anti-TTIP position lately and this suggests to me that Farage has decided to move from a position of having reservations and reserving judgement to a position of outright opposition.
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Post by right on Oct 31, 2014 19:31:40 GMT
Significant tweet from Farage Nigel Farage @nigel_Farage 42m42 minutes ago Interestingly, the Tory vote is down 2%, and the Labour vote has shrunk by 9%. Like #UKIP, most voters oppose secretive #TTIP EU-USA deal. The significance is not that Farage, like others, copied the Kent Online mistake and gave the figure for Conservative change as down two not up two. The significance is that this is the first time Farage has come out and said "UKIP is opposed to TTIP". I have seen other UKIP figures like David Coburn state their opposition to TTIP. However whilst the party as a whole and its official spokesman have expressed increasing reservations about aspects of TTIP the official line until now has been that UKIP will wait for the final draft before making a final judgement on TTIP. I think UKIP has been shifting more to an anti-TTIP position lately and this suggests to me that Farage has decided to move from a position of having reservations and reserving judgement to a position of outright opposition. I really can't see how UKIP could have supported TTIP - as the withdrawlist case would be that a better deal for the UK (particularly on Financial Services) would be available with direct bilateral negotiations and the EU is just getting in the way. They also could not remain neutral without looking irrelevant. Interesting to see if TTIP takes chunks out of the Labour activist base. |
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Post by Andrew_S on Oct 31, 2014 19:46:42 GMT
What the hell happened to the art of proof reading? Someone presses the wrong button on their computer and puts Con -2% instead of +2% and no-one else bothers to check it.
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Post by thirdchill on Oct 31, 2014 20:17:13 GMT
What the hell happened to the art of proof reading? Someone presses the wrong button on their computer and puts Con -2% instead of +2% and no-one else bothers to check it. Twitter and proof reading don't go together  |
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Post by maxque on Oct 31, 2014 20:53:52 GMT
What the hell happened to the art of proof reading? Someone presses the wrong button on their computer and puts Con -2% instead of +2% and no-one else bothers to check it. Journalists must give a higher output than before, for the profit of their editor. So, they have to write more in the same time, so proof-reading gets canned. |
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Post by Davıd Boothroyd on Oct 31, 2014 22:06:53 GMT
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Post by Andrew_S on Oct 31, 2014 22:30:49 GMT
Royal Mail ought to be aware that the publicity from this may increase support for Britain First. |
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Post by Devil Wincarnate on Oct 31, 2014 22:39:27 GMT
Royal Mail ought to be aware that the publicity from this may increase support for Britain First. It's not their job to make a call based on that- it's their job to decide if what they have been asked to deliver breaks their legal requirements, and I can't imagine this is a decision they take lightly. I can only see the front of the leaflet on the Beeb site, but it looks to me very much like it would indeed cause distress or anxiety to some residents. If it said "Say no to the new mosque", it wouldn't be illegal. |
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