South Yorkshire PCC

[Merseymike]

Oct 13, 2014 22:19:49 GMT Devil Wincarnate said:

Oct 13, 2014 21:40:04 GMT Merseymike said:

Oh, remember him well - the member for Windsor and Maidenhead who went out to lunch and never returned. The problem was that he did this in about 1986 and his local party fully expected a dignified retirement in 1987, but he had other ideas and the blue rinsers voted to keep him. They had to try and keep him away from the public during the 87 election, but then he managed to serve out an entire full term until 92 when the seat was redistributed! By all accounts he was never invited to anything at the Windsors pad because the Queen loathed him!

Was he the one who basically spent the last ten years of his career as a pisscan without anyone outside Parliament noticing?

Matthew Parris said in his memoirs, Chance Witness:
"Dr Alan Glyn MP looked a little like Adolf Hitler, but greyer and droopier, with an ill-cut walrus moustache. Unfortunately, he lacked the great dictator's gaiety and charm."

[neilm]

Yes, he went campaigning somewhere and fell asleep in wardrobe, having apparently believed it was the bathroom. The wardrobe toppled with him in it.

[finsobruce]

Oct 13, 2014 22:34:27 GMT neilm said:

Yes, he went campaigning somewhere and fell asleep in wardrobe, having apparently believed it was the bathroom. The wardrobe toppled with him in it.

The full story here from Paul Flynn : paulflynnmp.typepad.com/my_weblog/2012/08/beware-of-cheap-imitations.html

reminds me of a similar story about Richard Crossman. 

[Merseymike]

That sort of sums him up. I recall his daughter standing against David Blunkett in Sheffield Brightside.

I think he also hoped for preferment as he married into aristocracy - his wife was already a Lady while he remained a Doctor until he got his Sir .

[Devonian]

Sheffield Star PCC hustings from earlier tonight

[Crimson King]

I assumed this had happened already and I hadn't noticed

[Devonian]

New UKIP poster for next week's vote

[Devonian]

Mike Smithson posted this today

Over the past few days I’ve had a couple of reports about UKIP in Thursday’s South Yorkshire PCC by-election. This is, of course, traditional solid LAB territory where the party wins Westminster seats on low turnouts easily without any real effort. Things could be different on Thursday.

The police authority areas covers Rotherham which has been the subject of massive attention is recent months. Turnout in these elections, as we’ve seen, is pitifully low and might present UKIP with a huge opportunity on Thursday. The momentum is certainly with the party.

I’ve had a punt at 11/8 with Hills.

Update

William Hill goo.gl/jBN1WA tighten the odds on UKIP winning the S Yorks PCC by-election. Was 11/8 - now 11/10

www1.politicalbetting.com/index.php/archives/2014/10/25/labour-could-be-in-trouble-in-the-south-yorkshire-pcc-by-election/

[Pete Whitehead]

a few familiar names posting on there. Does anyone (Andy) know if 'another Richard' there is 'our' Richard or another Richard

[Sibboleth]

Wait... people are betting on the outcome of a police commissioner by-election? That seems tragic. Probably they should be contacted by Gamblers Anonymous?

[YL]

So far the only evidence I've seen of this by-election (other than polling cards) is a single Labour poster in a window of a house on Ecclesall Road.

[David Ashforth]

Oct 25, 2014 17:33:15 GMT YL said:

So far the only evidence I've seen of this by-election (other than polling cards) is a single Labour poster in a window of a house on Ecclesall Road.

I've seen one other poster, also Labour and also in Ecclesall ward.

Probably because I'm a postal voter I've received the following:

Labour
1x addressed letter
1x addressed leaflet

Conservative
1x addressed leaflet

UKIP
1x addressed letter, which arrived after I'd returned my postal ballot.

Also, there is an advert for the Conservative candidate on page 5 of this week's Sheffield Telegraph.

[neilm]

Aah, the Sheffield Telegraph. The paper you only get for the property supplement.

[Pete Whitehead]

Taste is a matter of taste. 1400 is an underestimate of course, or rather it refers specifically to only the (known) number of victims in Rotherham, not in South Yorkshire as a whole

[maxque]

The issue with that sign is than anybody deciding to vote on that shouldn't vote for any of them.
Labour didn't protected them.
UKIP is using them for political gain.

[Devonian]

Oct 26, 2014 8:44:55 GMT maxque said:

The issue with that sign is than anybody deciding to vote on that shouldn't vote for any of them.
Labour didn't protected them.
UKIP is using them for political gain.

I have to say it has puzzled me as to why the grooming issue should be thought by some people to be off limits to political discussion. For example Labour frequently criticise other parties over the issue of the NHS. They have done this for decades. I have never heard anyone 'how can you politicise health, do you understand you are talking about the treatment of some very ill people who are suffering terribly right now. Some of them are Conservative supporters, how do you suppose they feel about you exploiting their suffering for political gain?'

Multi-party politics inevitably involves political parties criticising other parties for their failings in various areas. This includes things like criminal justice, war, healthcare for the seriously ill and other extremely grave matters. How exactly is this any different?

[maxque]

Oct 26, 2014 8:49:54 GMT Devonian said:

I have to say it has puzzled me as to why the grooming issue should be thought by some people to be off limits to political discussion. For example Labour frequently criticise other parties over the issue of the NHS. They have done this for decades. I have never heard anyone 'how can you politicise health, do you understand you are talking about the treatment of some very ill people who are suffering terribly right now. Some of them are Conservative supporters, how do you suppose they feel about you exploiting their suffering for political gain?'

Multi-party politics inevitably involves political parties criticising other parties for their failings in various areas. This includes things like criminal justice, war, healthcare for the seriously ill and other extremely grave matters. How exactly is this any different?

The issue isn't attacking the failures of other parties, but faillure to propose any solution. What UKIP would do differently?

[Devonian]

Oct 26, 2014 8:52:03 GMT maxque said:

The issue isn't attacking the failures of other parties, but faillure to propose any solution. What UKIP would do differently?

Well the poster doesn't talk about what UKIP would do differently. However the UKIP election statement does. In fact all four election statements talk about the issue

Jack Clarkson
Election statement:

My aim if elected as police and crime commissioner for South Yorkshire would be simple. To re-establish and maintain the public’s trust in the uniform I was so proud to wear for over 30 years.

Following recent criticisms that have undermined public confidence and demoralised South Yorkshire police officers, the people of the county now have the opportunity to seize the initiative and put in place a team that will provide strong leadership and a common sense approach to policing that leaves the old politics behind. This means instilling a new culture, where crimes are investigated without fear or favour.

The fact is the public need to be able to trust the police to do the right thing and to help them when they need it most, and this is what I will deliver to the people of South Yorkshire. I want a more visible police presence, and aim to put more boots on the ground. I want a more community orientated policing policy that will safeguard our communities. I want a county where criminals fear to tread and police officers & PCSO’s are proud to pull on the uniform and serve the public, the way I once did.

I will:

Endeavour to remove political interference from SYP


Concentrate on community focused policing to make communities safer


Endeavour to cut police paperwork and put boots on the ground


Roll back the tide of political correctness to provide fair policing for all


Encourage better co-operation between all agencies


Ensure support and protection for whistle blowers from any agency


Support front line staff trying to do their job


Highlight government cuts to the police service and their detrimental effects


Fight for proper resourcing of services
Prepared by Mike Pallant – Election agent, 20 Chestnut Ave, Wath-on-Dearne, Rotherham, S63 7PQ

Contact:

www.jackclarkson.org

Email: [e-mail]

[Devonian]

David Allen

Election statement:

David Allen stood in the 2012 PCC elections for the English Democrats and came in second place: he is a foundry engineer by training and has experience in sales and sales management. David is married with two children and has lived in Doncaster all his life.

It is his intention to challenge Labour’s corrupt one party state in South Yorkshire and will order the hunting down and prosecuting of all South Yorkshire’s child rapists gangs, but also all those national politicians, councillors, officials, social workers and police officers who might be guilty of offences, including conspiracy to pervert the course of justice in covering up these crimes and for failure in their public duty.

The law should be served without fear or favour and without ideological bias. The scandal in South Yorkshire has not been only the large number of child rapes by men of Pakistani Muslim origin, but also the alleged deliberate covering up of these crimes and failure of many public servants paid handsomely out of the public purse. Often this failure was driven by careerist, partisan motives. Anyone guilty of these offences should be in no doubt that if I am elected they will be rooted out and their political careers at public expense will be over.

The culture of policing in South Yorkshire must change to keep the consent and good faith of the public

The politically correct culture now is a restrictive ideology that prevents good men and women from doing their jobs properly and must be removed.

Vote David Allen English Democrats October 30th

Prepared by election agent English Democrats, Ian Sutton, 28 Midhurst Grove, Barugh Green Barnsley S75 1ND

Contact: www.englishdemocrats.org

[Devonian]

Alan Billings

Election statement:

South Yorkshire Police needs to change. If we are to have a safe and fair society for all we have to be able to trust our police and pull together as communities. But the police have rightly been heavily criticised for the way they dealt with Hillsborough, Orgreave and, above all, child sexual exploitation in Rotherham.

How would I help build confidence again?

My first priority will be the victims of sexual exploitation. They need justice and support. Abusers must be prosecuted and those who failed them held to account.

We then need a longer-term plan to build a police force people trust, always putting victims first. That means ensuring our policing – training, behaviour, culture and accountability – is improved.

What would I bring? Three things.

Independence. I’m not a politician and have no previous involvement with South Yorkshire Police. As such I can hold the police to account – crucial if the Commissioner is to have credibility dealing with the findings of inquiries into past practice.

Experience. I have extensive knowledge of what works in reducing crime and anti-social behaviour because for eight years (2004-2012) I was a board member of the Youth Justice Board – a national body overseeing criminal justice for under 18s. I appreciate the importance of neighbourhood policing and the work of Community Support Officers. I also understand the importance of tackling cyber, business and drug-related serious crime.

Finally, I’ve spent much of my working life building trust in local communities – between the community and the police, between different sections of the community. I was a vicar in the inner-city and a mining community (Beighton and Brookhouse Colliery).

As Commissioner I will reach out across communities and be a force for unity not division.

Prepared by Election Agent: Paul Nicholson, Labour Party, 20-22 Cheapside, Wakefield, WF1 2TF

Contact: www.alanbillings.org.uk
Twitter @alan BillingsPCC