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Post by neilm on Jan 3, 2015 21:58:46 GMT
Are you able to source the figures for 1974 for England and Wales?
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Post by Davıd Boothroyd on Jan 3, 2015 22:13:40 GMT
Are you able to source the figures for 1974 for England and Wales? Yes. 1974 is post-reform, and they're in Rallings and Thrasher's "Local Elections in Britain: a statistical digest". Full compositions are also easier to find in newspaper archives. |
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Post by David Ashforth on Jan 3, 2015 22:19:02 GMT
Are you able to source the figures for 1974 for England and Wales? I don't think this is really what you were looking for but the number of councillors by party since 1973 is on page 10 of this Commons Library Research Paper. The figures are for Great Britain not England and Wales. www.parliament.uk/briefing-papers/RP14-33/local-elections-2014 |
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Post by neilm on Jan 3, 2015 22:21:45 GMT
Of course, easily available. A pity those data don't come with maps.
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Post by neilm on May 26, 2015 22:33:50 GMT
Worth a bump as we're discussing Tintwistle.
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Post by Devil Wincarnate on May 26, 2015 23:57:22 GMT
I'm late to this frankly wonderful thread. Looking at my own usual patches, I note in 1958 that Urmston UDC had 13 Conservative, 3 Labour, and 2 others, but not clear who they were.
Surprising that some tiny places had their own councils. Hartley Wintney, Bebington, Beaumaris...and surprising that New Windsor and Old Windsor had separate councils.
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Post by neilm on May 27, 2015 10:49:05 GMT
A little part of me wants them to come back. I like the idea of really small authorities.
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Post by The Bishop on May 27, 2015 11:02:12 GMT
Worth a bump as we're discussing Tintwistle. Even more remarkably, that tiny *tiny* authorities 9 members were - by the time of its abolition - split between Tory, Labour and Liberal  |
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Post by neilm on May 27, 2015 11:11:38 GMT
Indeed.
I think what probably happened with these places was that because of the number of members to voters ratio, you could get something closer to proportionality. My own 'home' authority- Plympton St Mary's RDC- is listed here as non partisan but there were people on it known to be Labour, Conservative etc (as with many others) but the new South Hams DC wards have been pretty monolithic for the Conservatives since reorganisation (apart from the mid 90s and the Lib Dem in Yealmpton). Those Labour voters kind of got drowned out with the bigger wards.
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Post by cibwr on May 30, 2015 9:51:01 GMT
A little part of me wants them to come back. I like the idea of really small authorities. Well in Wales many of the old Municipal Boroughs and Urban Districts live on as Community Councils, with the dignity of a Mayor. I suspect in England many of those small councils are now Parishes or Town Councils. |
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Post by The Bishop on May 30, 2015 10:08:46 GMT
And many Town Councils in England (like my own) also have mayors.
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Post by neilm on Jun 1, 2015 10:25:24 GMT
43 "moderates" in Glasgow. 18 vacancies in Liverpool..... Yeah, they'd all been surcharged... |
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Post by Sibboleth on Feb 11, 2016 2:36:10 GMT
That wasn't exactly malapportionment but the result of slum clearance.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 4, 2016 21:06:28 GMT
Browsing through the images on this thread I am surprised at the inclusion of Douglas (Isle of Man) on the lists of councils which appears to have so far gone unmentioned on this thread. The Independents/non political councillors always dominated with somewhere between 15 and 19 councillors, but there were also somewhere between 5 and 9 Labour councillors each year as well (Manx Labour presumably, though the distinction isn't made clear).
I wonder who these wonderful psephologists were who persuaded the Municipal Yearbook to feature all these council compositions, and took them to task the year (1960) they randomly decided they couldn't be ars*d to do it any more?
Also, it seems incredible now that local authorities could just withhold information about their composition if they wished without causing an outcry.
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Post by john07 on Apr 4, 2016 22:45:52 GMT
A little part of me wants them to come back. I like the idea of really small authorities. Well in Wales many of the old Municipal Boroughs and Urban Districts live on as Community Councils, with the dignity of a Mayor. I suspect in England many of those small councils are now Parishes or Town Councils. I would be surprised if there were many. There was some attempt to introduce community councils but these were supposed to be non-political and any candidate deemed to be acting as a party candidate would be disqualified. Consequently they generally collapsed. |
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Post by ColinJ on Apr 4, 2016 22:52:57 GMT
Browsing through the images on this thread I am surprised at the inclusion of Douglas (Isle of Man) on the lists of councils which appears to have so far gone unmentioned on this thread. The Independents/non political councillors always dominated with somewhere between 15 and 19 councillors, but there were also somewhere between 5 and 9 Labour councillors each year as well (Manx Labour presumably, though the distinction isn't made clear). I refer the Hon. Gentleman to Tom Sherratt's excellent booklet Douglas Borough Council Election Results 1956-1981. Over the period covered Labour always had between 6 and 9 members (councillors + aldermen) on the council, whose total membership was 24. Tom did give me a copy of a little book that set out the history of the Manx Labour Party; unfortunately I can't put my finger on it at the moment. |
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Post by ColinJ on Apr 5, 2016 16:20:30 GMT
Tom did give me a copy of a little book that set out the history of the Manx Labour Party; unfortunately I can't put my finger on it at the moment. Found it: Ald. Alfred J. Teare, MBE, JP: Reminiscences of the Manx Labour PartyThe original price when published in October 1962 was 2/6d. I have no idea whether copies can be sourced through Amazon or not. |
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Post by finsobruce on Apr 5, 2016 16:57:38 GMT
Tom did give me a copy of a little book that set out the history of the Manx Labour Party; unfortunately I can't put my finger on it at the moment. Found it: Ald. Alfred J. Teare, MBE, JP: Reminiscences of the Manx Labour PartyThe original price when published in October 1962 was 2/6d. I have no idea whether copies can be sourced through Amazon or not. A quick search reveals no copies on either abe books or Amazon. Likely quite rare. |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 5, 2016 17:06:21 GMT
I have a few spare pre-decimalisation coins I could part with if that's what they want...
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Post by Deleted on Apr 12, 2016 16:47:38 GMT
When did local elections generally stop being held in November and moved to May?
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