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Post by Davıd Boothroyd on Aug 18, 2014 21:11:28 GMT
It's relatively easy to find out council compositions after local government was reformed in 1974/75. It's considerably more difficult to find compositions before that, especially outside London and outside the Municipal Corporations. One of the few sources is the Municipal Yearbook which included compositions in most editions from 1956 onwards. So here is what appeared in the 1956 edition. |
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Post by Pete Whitehead on Aug 18, 2014 21:54:37 GMT
I feel a map coming on. Interesting to see that Cheshunt UDC was Labour controlled then
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Post by Pete Whitehead on Aug 18, 2014 21:56:53 GMT
Even more interesting to see that not only were there 'University members' in Cambridge and Oxford (presumably these were not elected on the same basis as MPs used to be elected for University seats) but that there were also 'Miltary members' in Aldershot
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Post by hullenedge on Aug 18, 2014 21:59:45 GMT
Many thanks to David. Some of the figures in the Calder Valley are 'interesting'. Invariably the figures provided by the local press differed especially given the leanings of 'independents'.
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Post by Davıd Boothroyd on Aug 18, 2014 22:00:03 GMT
Even more interesting to see that not only were there 'University members' in Cambridge and Oxford (presumably these were not elected on the same basis as MPs used to be elected for University seats) but that there were also 'Miltary members' in Aldershot The 'University Members' in Cambridge are included in Colin Rosenstiel's pages. See this page at the bottom. There were six councillors and two Aldermen. |
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Post by Khunanup on Aug 18, 2014 22:03:39 GMT
It's relatively easy to find out council compositions after local government was reformed in 1974/75. It's considerably more difficult to find compositions before that, especially outside London and outside the Municipal Corporations. One of the few sources is the Municipal Yearbook which included compositions in most editions from 1956 onwards. So here is what appeared in the 1956 edition. Fascinating! Standout result for me is Labour being level with Independents in Lerwick... |
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Post by East Anglian Lefty on Aug 18, 2014 22:07:32 GMT
One wonders how many of the supposedly non-partisan authorities truly were, and how many just preferred not to notice that organised political parties had begun standing for seats.
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Post by finsobruce on Aug 18, 2014 22:54:39 GMT
43 "moderates" in Glasgow. 18 vacancies in Liverpool.....
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Post by Deleted on Aug 18, 2014 23:07:00 GMT
It's relatively easy to find out council compositions after local government was reformed in 1974/75. It's considerably more difficult to find compositions before that, especially outside London and outside the Municipal Corporations. One of the few sources is the Municipal Yearbook which included compositions in most editions from 1956 onwards. So here is what appeared in the 1956 edition. Fascinating! Standout result for me is Labour being level with Independents in Lerwick... Seven Labour to one each for the Conservatives and Liberals in Stromness.... |
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Post by Arthur Figgis on Aug 19, 2014 3:59:53 GMT
Even more interesting to see that not only were there 'University members' in Cambridge and Oxford (presumably these were not elected on the same basis as MPs used to be elected for University seats) but that there were also 'Miltary members' in Aldershot I originally misread that as Militant members... The mind boggled! |
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Post by carlton43 on Aug 19, 2014 4:19:23 GMT
Even more interesting to see that not only were there 'University members' in Cambridge and Oxford (presumably these were not elected on the same basis as MPs used to be elected for University seats) but that there were also 'Miltary members' in Aldershot I originally misread that as Militant members... The mind boggled! You are a very early riser Arthur. |
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Post by Arthur Figgis on Aug 19, 2014 4:24:14 GMT
On the 05:33 Preston to Euston this morning, after football at Burnley last night. A struggle.
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Post by Khunanup on Aug 19, 2014 8:31:34 GMT
Fascinating! Standout result for me is Labour being level with Independents in Lerwick... Seven Labour to one each for the Conservatives and Liberals in Stromness.... Didn't pick up on that one... Orkney and Shetland must be just about the only places in the country where party politics has been entirely replaced by Independents in terms of elected council members rather than the other way round. |
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Post by The Bishop on Aug 19, 2014 9:58:17 GMT
My first thought was - we had an awful lot of councils then!
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Post by lbarnes on Aug 19, 2014 10:16:05 GMT
It's relatively easy to find out council compositions after local government was reformed in 1974/75. It's considerably more difficult to find compositions before that, especially outside London and outside the Municipal Corporations. One of the few sources is the Municipal Yearbook which included compositions in most editions from 1956 onwards. So here is what appeared in the 1956 edition. Prior to 1956 (and to a certain extent afterwards) another good source is the online editions of The Times for the periods in April, May and November when local elections took place. They are a bit more haphazard than Whitaker's, not necessarily in alphabetical order and with many omissions. However, they do tend to show the extent of gains and losses in each of the authorities which can be as revealing as the overall standings. |
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Post by Pete Whitehead on Aug 19, 2014 11:04:00 GMT
Interesting to see the councils where the Liberals were the largest party - all in the pennines except for one in Cardiganshire.
Mossley 14 Lib 9 Con 1 Lab
Huddersfield 28 Lib 16 Con 14 Lab
Bacup 10 Lib 8 Lab 6 Con
Rochdale 17 Lib 16 Lab 13 Con
Aberayron 7 Lib 3 Lab 1 Con
Huddersfield is not so surprising as it returned one of the few Liberal MPs at that time - Rochdale is somewhat more so as this is before the byelection which I thought had kick-started the Liberal revival in Rochdale which lasted up to a couple of years ago. Mossley and Bacup are not areas that I associate with Liberal strength these days, though perhaps the continued strnegth of Indepepndents in Mossley is a hangover from the Liberal past (IIRC they tended not to be opposed by LIb Dems)
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Post by maxque on Aug 19, 2014 11:33:23 GMT
Rossendale (where Bacup is now) is not a good place for Liberal Democrats. They had no candidate at all in 2011 and in 2014, they had only one candidate, which was their last councillor and he finished at a very distant 3rd place (19% in a 3-way race) in a ward (Whitewell) he was representing since 2008. That ward wasn't in Bacup, too, it was in Rawtenstall.
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Post by Pete Whitehead on Aug 19, 2014 11:51:09 GMT
Interesting to see the councils where the Liberals were the largest party - all in the pennines except for one in Cardiganshire. Mossley 14 Lib 9 Con 1 Lab Huddersfield 28 Lib 16 Con 14 Lab Bacup 10 Lib 8 Lab 6 Con Rochdale 17 Lib 16 Lab 13 Con Aberayron 7 Lib 3 Lab 1 Con Huddersfield is not so surprising as it returned one of the few Liberal MPs at that time - Rochdale is somewhat more so as this is before the byelection which I thought had kick-started the Liberal revival in Rochdale which lasted up to a couple of years ago. Mossley and Bacup are not areas that I associate with Liberal strength these days, though perhaps the continued strnegth of Indepepndents in Mossley is a hangover from the Liberal past (IIRC they tended not to be opposed by LIb Dems) What was most striking to me is just how few Liberal Councillors there were, although it wasn't surprising - IIRC the Liberals were down to 6 MPs in the 1955 election and most of them were in rural areas which had non-partisan local government at the time. None in Hertfordshire that I can see (although there are no figures for the county and some of the rural districts) but this really was their low point. I have seen figures from Bushey UD back to 1958 and I'm pretty sure the Liberals were winning seats there then, if not certainly by 1962. They were establishing bases elsewhere by the early 60s too eg. Rickmansworth |
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Post by Davıd Boothroyd on Aug 19, 2014 12:10:19 GMT
Also interesting to see seven National Liberals in Boston, but none anywhere else that I could see. At the time there were still quite a few Tory MPs elected under the National Liberal label so I might have expected to see a few more 'Nat L' councillors in the list. The chief whip of the National Liberals at this time was Sir Herbert Butcher, MP for Holland with Boston. |
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Post by J.G.Harston on Aug 19, 2014 12:28:06 GMT
Liverpool: Lab 74, C 65, Others (presumably Protestant Party) 3, 18 Vacancies (!) 160 councillors!!! For a place smaller than Sheffield which at the time had 75 councillors. |
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